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Secret anti-terror Bush memos made public by Obama
AP ^ | March 2, 2009 | DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 03/02/2009 1:56:34 PM PST by SolidWood

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department on Monday released a long-secret legal document from 2001 in which the Bush administration claimed the military could search and seize terror suspects in the United States without warrants.

The legal memo was written about a month after the Sept. 11 terror attacks. It says constitutional protections against unlawful search and seizure would not apply to terror suspects in the U.S., as long as the president or another high official authorized the action.

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The memo was one of nine released Monday by the Obama administration.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; antiamericans; bds; bho44; bhodoj; bush; classified; ericholder; nationalsecurity; notsosecret; obama; obamanation; september12era; treason; waronbush
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To: loungitude
What reasonable action(s) can be taken?

None. None whatsoever.

You, I, and everyone else here are nothing to these people.

51 posted on 03/02/2009 2:24:27 PM PST by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: SolidWood

This man if you can call him that is a fool.


52 posted on 03/02/2009 2:26:43 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Lady Jag

Lots of circumstantial evidence all over.

1. Saudis own DC.
2. The Libs and envornmentalsists NO energy policy benefits the Saudis. W e have 4 times the Suaiuds oil rserves in coal diesel, shale oil, and ND oil this is just onshore in the lower 48 states.
3. Obama has close ties with the Muslim Brotherhood (MB). The MB builds all the mosques in the west and is used to export Islam to the west. Funded by the Saudis.
4.Saudis are still backers of Al Qeada.
5. Saudis promote and export Wanhabbi Islam which is incredibly intolerant and preached global conquest/Caliphate.
6. The Saudis paid for all of Obama’s education and pulled strings to get him in the best schools - he is not that smart.
7. He is a Muslim.

There are more things but I need to dig through notes. We are energy serfs for the Saudis.


53 posted on 03/02/2009 2:28:27 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Canedawg
Obama is deliberately selling us out. His stated agenda has been to take us down a peg or two. Criminalizing the previous administration for the sake of "world opinion" effectively ends our nation's grand tradition of a peaceful transition of power.

He's a jive turkey.

54 posted on 03/02/2009 2:28:37 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: SolidWood

So? Who cares? He’s just releasing it so he can justify his actions in case he gets his brownshirt Civilian army. He won’t get that Civilian army. That will be the breaking point. If he begins to do that, and isn’t stopped, many people I know are getting out of here.


55 posted on 03/02/2009 2:29:05 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: linn37
Is Obama insane?

Possibly! He is definitely deranged!

56 posted on 03/02/2009 2:29:10 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: BGHater

Channel surfing last week I heard Rachel Madcow make a statement that essentially outlined this intention.

My guess is that O forwarded this document to his friends in the msm.


57 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:04 PM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: SolidWood

Eric Holder is every bit as dangerous as obama, he’s the match to obama’s keg of dynamite.


58 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:13 PM PST by top 2 toe red ("It's about time the GOP got a little Steele!")
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To: ronnyquest
I might add, he is willing to sacrifice all Americans on the global altar.

He must be stopped. Impeach him now for sedition.

59 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:53 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: Frantzie

I don’t doubt any of what you say. Still, he did have to present himself as an attractive candidate and get elected.

But it makes sense. So much of his record breaking donation money was unaccounted for.

My question is, why does Congress bend over for the Saudis? What is the purpose?


60 posted on 03/02/2009 2:32:59 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: SolidWood

releasing the internal operational documents from the prior administration is crossing so many lines here, it is making my head spin.


61 posted on 03/02/2009 2:33:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 444Flyer

The libs would be frothing at the mouths screaming for impeachment if a Republican president even mentioned any of what Obama has been preaching, to say nothing of what he has already done.


62 posted on 03/02/2009 2:34:44 PM PST by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: kcvl
My new nickname for Michelle 0 is “MOuth”.

I'm sure she takes great delight in how her husband is destroying America. Thesis anyone?

63 posted on 03/02/2009 2:35:27 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: SolidWood

President Lincoln suspended Habius Corpus during the Civil War and even deported some of his detractors. President Bush was and is serious about the War on Terror.


64 posted on 03/02/2009 2:35:38 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Sequoyah101

>>SO?<<

Hmmm constitutional protections don’t apply if the President or another high official authorizes the action... I can see a dangerous precedent... what if a high official decides that gun rights or freedom of speech or the press don’t apply?


65 posted on 03/02/2009 2:36:31 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Power and money. Stay in power and get very wealthy. Many think tanks in DC are Saudi funded. Valerie Palme’s husband joe Wilson worked for one.

If you think these people will not sell out the country and you in a heartbeat - you are wrong.

Also the same thing has happened in Europe with Saudi money. England is over. All the Muslim Brotherhood.


66 posted on 03/02/2009 2:37:16 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I suppose that is one perspective. Another is that the Southern States did not appreciate the selective meddling in their affairs by the Fed, no matter how justified such meddling may have been.

Of course slavery was cuckoo...but tell that to Lincoln, who did very little to abolish it 100%. He only selectively applied the Emancipation Proclomation, exempting the non-rebellious slaves states and certain non-rebellious parishes of Louisiana.

As wrong as the South was for relying so heavily on something as wretched as slavery, they were troubled by the heavy hand of the Fed.


67 posted on 03/02/2009 2:37:18 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Former Proud Canadian

you left out
Mexico will devolve into civil/drug war
refugees and violence will pour over the border


68 posted on 03/02/2009 2:38:21 PM PST by oldpass
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To: gondramB
Cant Obama simply de-classify things to get away with it??
69 posted on 03/02/2009 2:38:36 PM PST by cdnerds (Now part of the conservative underground,)
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To: SolidWood

He has no class, and no connection to American decency.


70 posted on 03/02/2009 2:40:08 PM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Communist Party Project.)
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To: scfischer7

This is exactly why past associations make a difference. Radicals shaped his views and he is a radical.


71 posted on 03/02/2009 2:43:45 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: SolidWood

“Change”.


72 posted on 03/02/2009 2:47:42 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: DBCJR

“He is going for prosecution.”

He needs a BIG Red Herring, an “Enemy Of The People”, very soon to cover for what he is doing to the economy.

What’s happening is so big, and he has sorrounded himself with so many crooks, that even his adoring media minions are beginning to notice it.

And turning Limbaugh in to the “Enemy Of The People”isn’t working out very well.


73 posted on 03/02/2009 2:49:22 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: oldpass

HAH, that’s been happening for years, but you are right, it will get worse.


74 posted on 03/02/2009 2:53:03 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

“I wonder why we have never seen Obama’s college transcripts.”

Or EVER seen an interview with ANY of his college roomates.

But the media managed to track down ALL of Palin’s college roommates in less than 48 hours, and stick cameras in thier faces.


75 posted on 03/02/2009 2:53:16 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: SolidWood

what’s that show with Vanna White?

Obama’s Character: The clue is:
7-letter word
begins with A
ends with E
rhymes with ANUS


76 posted on 03/02/2009 2:54:32 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: oldpass

Actually, we’ll probably all be fleeing to Mexico before this is done. That’ll shape them up!

I’m only half-joking, btw.


77 posted on 03/02/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by livius
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To: Gator113

It must be said and said repeatedly:

It is obvious to anyone who is paying attention: They are doing this INTENTIONALLY.

They are INTENTIONALLY destroying our nation.

With Malice and Forethought.


78 posted on 03/02/2009 2:56:44 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: kcvl
Wright (I can’t call him Reverend) raved against America for 20 years with obama in attendance. He had to believe the evil shouting or he would not have been in that place.
79 posted on 03/02/2009 2:58:38 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Frantzie
If you have a ping list I'd like to be on it.

Ever since seeing video of Saudis paying Palestinians with fistfuls of 24 carat gold years ago I realized money meant nothing to them.

Saudis can have what they want on a whim and they could have spent a fortune this little WhoseSane of ours.

It's getting less and less tin hat.

80 posted on 03/02/2009 2:59:08 PM PST by Lady Jag (Believe in your heart that you're destined to do great things)
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To: scfischer7

He will let 25 million capitalists be killed.. That is the plan per Ayers.
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And who does he think is going to do that? does he think they will sit in their homes and wait for UN troops? Do you really think our military would allow UN troops to come in and kill millions of their fellow countrymen? I don’t. They should be careful what they ask for.

“If we do not make common cause to save the good old ship of the Union on this voyage, nobody will have a chance to pilot her on another voyage.”
- Abraham Lincoln


81 posted on 03/02/2009 2:59:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: clamper1797

Is Obama insane?
Is this a trick question ?

yes it is a trick question.
Neither carter or clinton were even close to as bad as this guy.
Everyone knows his policies are harmful to our country
obama knows this , so why are they persued?
I don’t want to hear anything crazy about conspiracies or socialism.


82 posted on 03/02/2009 3:00:26 PM PST by genghis
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To: muawiyah; ronnyquest
BTW, best bet on what you hear of that nature is to keep it to yourself ~ Obama has his people scouring FR every day trying to pick up every little tidbit.

You're right of course, but I can't help but chuckle at the visual of a pack of 0bamunists searching FR page-to-page, trying to figure out if there are hidden coded messages in posts which reference terms like 'stuned', 'beeber', 'viking kitties', etc.

On a more serious note, I think that these moves by the illegal 0bamunist regime are specifically intended to provoke a radical response from conservatives, and I would say they are hoping to precisely trigger one or more maniacs (and we've got some at our end of the political spectrum, there's no denying that) into doing something violent which would then provide justification for invoking all of those executive orders which are on the shelf, ready for use, martial law is declared, and all the rest of that noise.

And let's face it: all the speculation about 0bama being the actual Antichrist will either be confirmed or denied if someone gets off a lucky shot at the SOB.
[DISCLAIMER: this post does NOT advocate or support ANY violent act, towards ANY elected official, federal, state or local]
83 posted on 03/02/2009 3:06:44 PM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: livius

They’ll build the fence to keep us in before we can do that.


84 posted on 03/02/2009 3:07:20 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: SolidWood
Offered without comment;

Benedict Arnold's decision to offer to the British the plans of West Point, thus effecting its surrender, stands out as the most traitorous acts of the War.
In a clandestine meeting with British Intelligence , Arnold handed over detailed plans of the number of troops and the location of fortifications surrounding the Hudson River garrison.

85 posted on 03/02/2009 3:08:22 PM PST by topfile
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To: Lady Jag
Hillary is no different. She has a muslim attached to her hip. A Saudi muslim no less.
86 posted on 03/02/2009 3:09:58 PM PST by BARLF
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To: SolidWood; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...
The list ping

The Justice Department on Monday released a long-secret legal document from 2001 in which the Bush administration claimed the military could search and seize terror suspects in the United States without warrants.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gRGpDB9rJVNmotxpefcc3LQsUCJwD96M4N682

complete list at www.nachumlist.com

87 posted on 03/02/2009 3:10:25 PM PST by Nachum (Obama theme song: Ball of Confusion by the Temptations)
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To: mkjessup

“and all the world wondered after the beast.”


88 posted on 03/02/2009 3:13:10 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: mkjessup
The acolytes don't count.

Anyway, Secret Service has a "list" of over 300,000 crazoids, etc., who have evil intent toward any President, and/or Congress, and it doesn't take a host of special orders and roundups to control them ~ just guys willing to leap in front of the target.

Most of our Presidents have been intelligent enough to not needlessly anger and distress the broad masses against them ~ Obama, though, has already revealed to us that he is seriously mentally deficient ~ definitely a product of the worst sort of affirmative action.

89 posted on 03/02/2009 3:16:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SolidWood

He can release anti-terror memos, but not his BC, college records, or medical records. What a POS.


90 posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:11 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Frantzie; Retired Greyhound
Power and money. Stay in power and get very wealthy. Many think tanks in DC are Saudi funded. Valerie Palme’s husband joe Wilson worked for one.

Yup. Money changes everything.

91 posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:44 PM PST by Lady Jag (Believe in your heart that you're destined to do great things)
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To: Retired Greyhound

When the southern states seceded the only federal effect on their lives was only the Constitutionally-mandated tasks that were all Lincoln ever intended to do- collect the duties at the ports and deliver the mail. It would be nice if that’s all we had to endure from the federal government today.


92 posted on 03/02/2009 3:20:06 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: BARLF
In late 2001 Al Qaeda or Osama or some Muslim said they were out to ruin our economy.

Saudis have more money than God. They pay Palestinians gold to breed bomblettes because money means nothing to them.

They are ones who could destroy American.


93 posted on 03/02/2009 3:25:58 PM PST by Lady Jag (Believe in your heart that you're destined to do great things)
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To: SolidWood

Distraction. It is meant to pander to his base as he steals more authority and destroys our economy and liberty.


94 posted on 03/02/2009 3:31:10 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SolidWood
The legal memo was written about a month after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

I swear, I think almost everyone in this country, including many FReepers, suffers from some kind of memory problem. Doesn't anyone remember what was going on in the country "about a month" after September 11, 2001? Anthrax attacks. The airline industry barely starting to crawl back. The stock market, ditto. Most people expecting another attack at any moment. Anyone remember? Anyone?

95 posted on 03/02/2009 3:33:27 PM PST by Wolfstar (Elections have thousands of consequences. Some minor, some major...and some that can kill you.)
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To: Califreak
They’ll build the fence to keep us in before we can do that.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. That's one of the strange things about dictatorships - even when their opponents try to flee, dictators won't just shrug and let them go, but instead want to keep them in place and punish them.

96 posted on 03/02/2009 3:35:06 PM PST by livius
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To: mojitojoe
And who does he think is going to do that? does he think they will sit in their homes and wait for UN troops?

Oh, really? Did you honestly think they were going to sit this long when a NON citizen just took over the US?

Do you honestly think that the majority of troops nder 40 years old even KNOW what the constitution is??

Do you honestly think that troops under 20 respect the 2nd ammendment??

97 posted on 03/02/2009 3:38:09 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..
The Justice Department on Monday released a long-secret legal document from 2001 in which the Bush administration claimed the military could search and seize terror suspects in the United States without warrants. The legal memo was written about a month after the Sept. 11 terror attacks. It says constitutional protections against unlawful search and seizure would not apply to terror suspects in the U.S., as long as the president or another high official authorized the action.
Obama isn't interested in prosecuting GWB (and this is regardless or even in spite of what Pelosi et al want) -- he's interested in maintaining presidential powers. Everyone bought a lot of canned goods and stocked up ammo, right? 'Cause if the Muzzies infiltrate your neighborhoods and attack, Obama won't lift a finger to help (unless helping his fellow Muzzies counts).
98 posted on 03/02/2009 3:39:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Lady Jag

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$ The Saudi money bought him the election.
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You are the first I’ve known to say that. Could you expand on it or explain? I’ve suspected it all along.
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I’m not Frantzie, but I fear he is 100% right.

The earlier trip to Syria, meetings with MidEast heads of state were the icing on the cake. A group of Iraqi (Christian) -Americans that came to the U.S. after the 1st Gulf War have explained it all very well in saying, “It made no difference how much money in campaign contributions McCain or any other opponent could have raised. Hussein was given carte blanche with unlimited access to to untold millions.

Did you ever take a look at the extensive lines Obie wear and paraphenalia with the Obie logo morphed with the Muslim moon, star and color-coordinated by Muslim country on the various websites?

It would have been nice for the media to have shown us the post-election Muslim rejoicing in the streets in Indonesia, Turkey, Africa, Iran, Syria, etc.


99 posted on 03/02/2009 3:39:24 PM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride)
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To: SolidWood

distraction from the economy


100 posted on 03/02/2009 3:40:09 PM PST by Puddleglum (Freedom works/socialism steals)
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