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26 prominent Catholics back Sebelius pick
National Catholic Reporter ^ | 3/1/09 | Thomas C. Fox

Posted on 03/02/2009 2:13:48 PM PST by madprof98

A group of 26 Catholic leaders, scholars and theologians Mar. 1 publicly expressed support for the nomination of Governor Sebelius as the next HHS secretary .

They issued a statement calling attention to Sebelius’ successful efforts at reducing abortion in Kansas as well as the Catholic faith’s long standing support for universal health care.

Sebelius Feb. 28th accepted President Obama's request to become his Health and Human Services secretary.

“As faithful Catholics we proudly offer our support to Governor Kathleen Sebelius, who has been nominated to head the Department of Health and Human Services,” statement read.

“Governor Sebelius is a woman of deep faith with a proud family history of public service. We believe Governor Sebelius’ record of building the common good, reforming immigration laws, improving schools, innovating health care solutions, and significantly reducing the abortion rate in Kansas, makes her an excellent candidate for HHS Secretary.”

“Governor Sebelius has demonstrated civility and a new kind of politics that both earned her the respect and collaboration of Republican allies and delivered results for the citizens of Kansas. In addition to offering our support, we also reject the tactics of those who would use Gov. Sebelius’ faith to attack her. As Catholics, we find such partisan use of our religion regrettable and divisive.”

The statement was organized by Catholics United, a Washington-based non-profit that promotes the church’s social teachings and the mission of justice and peace.

“What are the facts?” the statement’s signers asked. “Kathleen Sebelius has made clear that she agrees with church teaching that abortion is wrong and has lived and acted according to that belief. As governor she has worked to reduce the number of abortions by supporting expanded prenatal care and adoption incentives, expanding health services for Kansas families, and providing a variety of support services for families."

The statement went on to say that among other actions, Governor Sebelius:

“Indeed, because of Governor Sebelius' efforts, abortions in Kansas have declined by 10 percent during her time as governor.”

“Affordable and accessible health care is an essential safeguard of human life and a fundamental human right. With an estimated 47 million Americans lacking health care coverage, it is also an urgent national priority. Reform of the nation's health care system needs to be rooted in values that respect human dignity, protect human life, and meet the needs of the poor and uninsured, especially born and unborn children, pregnant women, immigrants, and other vulnerable populations.”

The statement was signed by:

Ambassador Elizabeth Frawley Bagley

Professor Lisa Sowle Cahill

Nicholas Cafardi

William D’Antonio

Professor Miguel H. Diaz

Michael Duffy

Julia Dowd

Professor Joseph Fahey

Professor Richard Gaillardetz

Fr. David Hollenbach

James P. Joseph

Christopher Korzen

Professor Douglas Kmiec

Steve Krueger

Delores Leckey

Eric LeCompte

Kari J. Lundgren

Professor Jerome Maryon

Fr. Thomas Massaro

Professor Vincent Miller

Professor David O’Brien

Fr. Thomas Reese

Maria Riley

Professor Stephen Schneck

Margaret O’Brien Steinfels

Dr. Patrick Whelan


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bhohhs; kmiec; sebelius
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1 posted on 03/02/2009 2:13:48 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Are these people board members of abotion clinics in Kansas?


2 posted on 03/02/2009 2:15:28 PM PST by nufsed
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To: madprof98

disgusting apologists

May they ALL have to face an aborted child’s soul at the hour of their own deaths


3 posted on 03/02/2009 2:16:23 PM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: madprof98

Time for some de-frocking.


4 posted on 03/02/2009 2:17:32 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: madprof98

For gosh sake, Adolph Hitler fed his own dogs and they loved him for it.


5 posted on 03/02/2009 2:17:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: madprof98
The statement was organized by Catholics United, a Washington-based non-profit that promotes the church’s social teachings and the mission of justice and peace.

The only two of those folks with whom I'm familiar are Kmiec, one of That One's biggest apologists, and Steinfels, who can always be counted on to push the most liberal ideas for the Church.

They certainly don't represent the Catholic Church, only their own liberal political interests.

6 posted on 03/02/2009 2:17:42 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: madprof98

Since there are no consequences from the Church for the public support of abortion, it is not unreasonable to assume that the Church does not actually disapprove.


7 posted on 03/02/2009 2:17:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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To: madprof98

50+% of Catholics elected a baby killer who is all for abortion on demand and sending doctors to jail for NOt killing babies.

The Catholic Church supported and still supports ACORN which helped elect Obama.


8 posted on 03/02/2009 2:17:53 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: madprof98

That is so sad.


9 posted on 03/02/2009 2:18:43 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: madprof98
Professor Douglas Kmiec?? Prominent Catholic? This woman is a menace. My word counts as much as this gang and BTW I'll bet I have more credentials as a Catholic.
10 posted on 03/02/2009 2:18:50 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: madprof98

The three Fathers on that list need to be called to Rome.


11 posted on 03/02/2009 2:19:22 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: madprof98
They issued a statement calling attention to Sebelius’ successful efforts at reducing abortion in Kansas

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTT

WTH?

Isaiah 5:20

20 Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.

12 posted on 03/02/2009 2:20:07 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, actually, Sebelius has already been asked by her own bishop not to receive communion, which is essentially the same as telling her she’s not a practicing Catholic any more.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 2:21:09 PM PST by Campion
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To: Frantzie
The Catholic Church supported and still supports ACORN which helped elect Obama.

The Church has withdrawn its support for ACORN.

14 posted on 03/02/2009 2:21:22 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: SuziQ

Cafardi is the guy who was removed from the Steubenville Board of Trustees for his support of BHO.


15 posted on 03/02/2009 2:22:13 PM PST by Campion
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To: madprof98
Benedict ought to have a public word with them.
16 posted on 03/02/2009 2:22:15 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: madprof98

“Catholics United” is a leftwing front group pretending to be Catholic, and for all I can tell, is just a handful of leftists at that. There was also a group called “Catholics for a Free Choice” - which was just a leftist pro-abortion group run by one socialist agitator.

If an organization with a religious title seems to be petitioning for something completely at odds with the core beliefs, then it’s a front group. Think Catholics agitating for public funding of abortion - easy pick to be a front group.


17 posted on 03/02/2009 2:22:33 PM PST by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: madprof98

Its gift wrapped right there for excommunication by the Pope...take the announcement list and make your own! Time to make a stand!


18 posted on 03/02/2009 2:23:27 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: madprof98
The disease is spreading.
19 posted on 03/02/2009 2:23:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: madprof98

It is the Catholic hospitals that will close first, preceded only by a few rural clinics and hospitals illegals have sucked dry.

I believe Catholic hospitals to be the backbone of healthcare. So, yes, let’s give Sebelius a medal and Sainthood after it all shakes out.


20 posted on 03/02/2009 2:24:11 PM PST by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: Frantzie
Do you post this on every thread that mentions Catholics?

It kind of looks like it.

21 posted on 03/02/2009 2:25:21 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Campion
Well, actually, Sebelius has already been asked by her own bishop not to receive communion, which is essentially the same as telling her she’s not a practicing Catholic any more.

That is one of the rare "strong" statements made by a Bishop. Of course, if she shows up at just about any Mass, she will receive anyway. No one will stop her. In most cases, people will be giddy to offer Communion to such a celebrity.

Just watch in a few months when Kennedy croaks. Full Catholic funeral with all kinds of famous abortion Catholics receiving.

22 posted on 03/02/2009 2:25:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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To: WildcatClan
It is the Catholic hospitals that will close first

Don't hold your breath.

23 posted on 03/02/2009 2:26:47 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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To: Frantzie

>>The Catholic Church supported and still supports ACORN which helped elect Obama.<<

You have come onto many Catholic threads stating this.
I have asked you for a reference many times.

The Catholic Church DOES NOT at this moment support ACORN.


24 posted on 03/02/2009 2:26:51 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: madprof98

“As faithful Catholics we...”

Bwhahahahahaaha! Thats a good one!


25 posted on 03/02/2009 2:26:58 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: madprof98

These are prominent Catholics? pfft. I recognize one name, and for a negative reason.


26 posted on 03/02/2009 2:28:47 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: madprof98

Right is wrong, evil is good.

Sounds like I read that somewhere about the last days.


27 posted on 03/02/2009 2:29:09 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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To: madprof98

What did you expect? Most Catholics vote Democrat, abortion stance or no. I know that most Lutherans do too.

You didn’t think they’d latch on to something positive about Sebelius and not issue some sort of press release, did you?

She’s not even anti-abortion. She gets credit here for reducing it, not being against it.

That’s the magic of liberalism: it doesn’t matter that our factions work at absolute cross purposes - as long as we get enough of what we want to be in control of our factions, we are on board.

What do unions and environmentalists have in common? That’s right, they’re Democrats, and that’s where it stops. Unions want to pave it all over, because it makes the members happy. Environmentalists want to hold up the permits.

The local hospital in Seattle - Providence (Sisters of Providence) - founded there way back when and had its headquarters there. Nurses and hospital workers struck against the Order. Who’d the Bishop back? That’s right, the union. Left their own Order twisting in the wind.

What happened? Providence closed down their Seattle hospital and made Everett, WA their headquarters. They are doing well there (#1 heart hospital in the state).

But, but, what about the poor nurses and hospital workers? Jobs went bye bye to Snohomish County.

Liberalism is a COALITION form of government. It’s two wolves and a sheep deciding dinner. It’s also why they want the electoral college shut down - permanent democratic rule. (small d intended).

In Rome, an epithet on the order of the F word was ‘democrat’. If you really lost your cool in the Senate, you’d hurl that epithet at an opponent.

The last thing liberals want is a republic. Tyranny of the majority, especially an ignorant majority, is what they are about.


28 posted on 03/02/2009 2:29:32 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Trailerpark Badass

>>Do you post this on every thread that mentions Catholics?<<

Yes! And in this one left out the falsehood of La Raza.
I have no clue why that poster insists on spreading the lies.


29 posted on 03/02/2009 2:29:32 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: icwhatudo

as my teenage kids would say

“O.M.G.”


30 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:12 PM PST by wheathead
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To: Jeff Chandler

I’m not sure exactly what you mean. Do you mean that the Catholic hospitals will refuse to do abortions and let the chips fall where they may? I hope that is the case and that they fight this Socialist heretic with all they have.


31 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:26 PM PST by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: madprof98
Madprof98

Question: How many frickin evangelicals for for obama, jacka**

Answer: A lot!

32 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:44 PM PST by notaliberal (Obama: The Abortion President)
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To: madprof98

hmmmm.....never heard of any of them, except Kmeic. Yeah, that carries a lot of weight with me.


33 posted on 03/02/2009 2:33:16 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I post also about 78% of American Jews voting for Hussein. As long as the church allows evil people like lefty bishops to harm the church i will speak out. Too many Catholics and other Chrsitians fail to speak up against lefties in the Church.

Priests and Bishops pushing Obama’s abortion or Open Borders agenda are wrong.


34 posted on 03/02/2009 2:34:23 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: madprof98
> the church’s social teachings

The church's social teachings are predicated upon the church's DIVINE teachings. If these CINOs bypass doctrine to get to feel-goodism, then they are apostates.

35 posted on 03/02/2009 2:34:40 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: madprof98

Will ANYONE from the Catholic church attack these “Catholics” for promoting the killing of babies?
Any real leaders in that church?
Any one of these folks get thrown out of the church or anything other that taking communion?


36 posted on 03/02/2009 2:36:16 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: madprof98

Well this will be interesting. It won’t halt her nomination though. Or her run for the Senate in 2010.


37 posted on 03/02/2009 2:36:22 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: madprof98
A group of 26 Catholic leaders, scholars and theologians Mar. 1 publicly expressed support for the nomination of Governor Sebelius as the next HHS secretary.

They issued a statement calling attention to Sebelius’ successful efforts at reducing abortion in Kansas as well as the Catholic faith’s long standing support for universal health care.

A group of 26 Catholic heretics publicly expressed support for the nomination of a fellow heretic Governor Sebelius as the next HHS secretary. They are ALL willing to look the other way when it comes to murdering children so that they can continue to get their bennies from the government, just as millions of Catholics across the United States did when they voted for Obama.

Apparently they all agree that they have no backbone; they can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. They would rather spend their time in the counting house counting their money, and give lip service to the sanctity of life. That is my opinion.

38 posted on 03/02/2009 2:37:05 PM PST by olezip
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To: madprof98


I'm doing such a good job. Now, give me that list. I must make room in hell.
39 posted on 03/02/2009 2:38:31 PM PST by mlizzy
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To: silverleaf

If they die unrepentant, (which includes a firm purpose of amending their lives) that is indeed what they will face for all eternity.


40 posted on 03/02/2009 2:39:40 PM PST by wiley
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A group of 26 apostate Catholic leaders, scholars and theologians

There, fixed it for you.

41 posted on 03/02/2009 2:41:07 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: madprof98

One doesn’t always get to glimpse the Devil’s shopping list


42 posted on 03/02/2009 2:42:31 PM PST by Puddleglum (Freedom works/socialism steals)
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To: madprof98

Will the Pope do what’s right?


43 posted on 03/02/2009 2:48:56 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs)
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To: SuziQ

peace and justice - laughable

If there is no justice for the most innocent and helpless among us there is no peace, because we are not abiding in God’s will.


44 posted on 03/02/2009 2:49:50 PM PST by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: madprof98

The hall of shame. They should all be publicly excommunicated, if only that were still done. There could be few more serious sins than this.

“And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.”


45 posted on 03/02/2009 2:51:56 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: madprof98

These people are not Catholics.

They are only CINOs.


46 posted on 03/02/2009 3:06:42 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nufsed

** by Catholics United, a Washington-based non-profit **

Catholics United is a new name for
Catholics for a Free Choice.

They are a dissenting group of CINOs. REAL Catholics don’t listen to them!


47 posted on 03/02/2009 3:08:08 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Frantzie

I don’t know why you continue to spout incorrect numbers.

Only 48 percent of Catholics voted for Obama. The percentages were revised. I’d appreciate it if you would speak the truth.

(Granted, that’s still too many Catholics, CINOs or not.)


48 posted on 03/02/2009 3:10:21 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Frantzie
Your line about ACORN is also Catholic bashing since it is no longer true. Please, the truth!

U.S. Bishops Cut All Funding to ACORN, Activities Funded Hard to Determine
Bishop discusses reasons behind cutoff of ACORN funding
Catholic Church drops ACORN funding

49 posted on 03/02/2009 3:11:47 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NonValueAdded
from your statement you imply that the Pope is doing something wrong.

Pray tell, how do you know anything at all that the Pope does or says?

Do you have a connection in the Vatican?

How do you know what he has or has not said to his priests?

Lurking’

50 posted on 03/02/2009 3:13:14 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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