Skip to comments.Hollister v Soetoro update 3/2/09
Posted on 03/02/2009 4:55:27 PM PST by rxsid
"ORDER ON MOTION OF PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE AND LAWRENCE J. JOYCE, ESQUIRE TO VACATE THIS COURTS ORDER OF FEBRUARY 4, 2009 HOLDING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice IN ABEYANCE and GRANTING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice" [snip]
Motion to Vacate
Can someone translate?
I believe a pro hac vice order is simply allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in the court in question.
> Can someone translate?
“Obambi is the president, but birthers still cannot let it go. Film at 11.”
You don’t have to, but it would be helpful if you would provide a summary of just what this really means please?
Obambi is the president, but Patriotic Americans still cannot let it go. Film at 11.
Birthers are anything but patriotic.
Thank you Tokyo Rose.
Does that judge have it in for them or what?!? What games are going on?!?!
Was I wrong in my reading that this is simply a judge's order allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in his court? It looked like a procedural ruling that was in favor of this continuing.
Really? Why? I thought it was all crap, but now I have this question, “Why would BO spend a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?” It makes no sense, unless he is hiding something, and now I am curious.
Objection to the Filing of Defendants Reply Memorandum
"Plaintiff Gregory S. Hollister objects to the filing of Defendants REPLY MEMORANDUM OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA and VICE PRESIDENT JOSEPH BIDEN IN SUPPORT OF THEIR MOTION TO DISMISS. First of all, this honorable Court gave Plaintiff Hollister only two  days to respond to Defendants Motion to Dismiss, a motion which in fact had already been mooted by Plaintiffs filing of his First Amended Complaint. By contrast, Defendants filed this Memorandum at issue here thirteen  days after Plaintiff Hollisters Brief and Memorandum of Law in Opposition to Defendants Motion to Dismiss was filed, when this Honorable Court had not even set any schedule for such a filing at all." [snip]
I was a skeptic myself once.
Good thing they had ESP to know they had been ordered!
Although Plaintiffs counsel has not been issued an ECF log-in or password, which would have emailed Counsel upon the filing of a document through the ECF system (due to Plaintiffs counsels motions for admission pro hac vice not yet being granted), Counsel learned of the Order in time to properly comply with the Order of this Court.And what the heck was going on here?!!?
The Order to Show Cause stated, Instead of the opposition plaintiff was ordered to file by 2/13/09 (or defendants' motion to dismiss would be granted as conceded, see [#10], what plaintiff filed was (a) the affidavit of a paralegal (who works in the office of a Pennsylvania lawyer who has not been admitted to practice in this Court), complaining about her treatment by an employee of the Clerk's Office, and (b) many blank pages, decorated only by what appear to be botanical drawings and the illegible photocopy of an Hawaiian certificate of live birth. (a) The affidavit was apparently intended as a response to my earlier observation that plaintiff's motion to file interpleader was frivolous, see [#2], [#10], the argument being, "Maureen Higgins made me do it." What was frivolous about the motion, however, was not the fact that it was filed, but the suggestion that (a) "duties" could be filed in the registry of this court. (b) The blank pages were either somebody's idea of a joke (in which case I don't get it) or a mistake. If the latter, plaintiffs have until 5:00 pm EST on 2/26/09 to correct it, by re-filing their points and authorities in opposition to the pending motion to dismiss (in the .pdf format required by the Court's CM/EDF system), or otherwise to show cause why that motion should not now be granted as conceded. It is SO ORDERED.Is someone in the Court playing games? Did they actually send this?
I hear numbers being thrown around for the amount being spent in defense, but no good primary sources. Anyone got them?
Read the pages beyond the first.
You are NASTY. If you can not answer the question then keep your hands off the key board!
I didn't believe this stuff either but the more he fights it the more I believe he is not a Natural born citizen, actually, according to the constitution he isn't even without his BC, he only has one US citizen parent.
Soon, soon someone will force this decision and then the only one who will look like fools are people like you.
Don't think that definitively exists in the public realm.
One can add up the number of lawyers filling documents on behalf of Barry in the various courts across American, then determine how much they customarily charge and come up with an estimate. Question remains, why go through so much effort to prevent a copy of the long form b.c. from being release (or his college records)?
Agreed, a lawyer probably.
Don’t care much for his attitude. In fact, I don’t care for it at all.
Cancel this thread.
Indeed correct. The B.C. will merely determine weather or not he is even an illegal alien as there is zero proof he is a Naturalized Citizen (which unto itself would make him ineligible for POTUS).
Why would BO spend a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?
You’re not supposed to ask that question. It is irrelevant of what nationality he is. He’s the people’s choice.
Bravo. well said!
You're right, it makes no sense. It also happens not to be true.
It amazes me how many false internet rumors get uncritically accepted as gospel truth by so many people.
So I’m unpatriotic despite my 18 years of honorable service in the USN? Have you served, troll?
You need to loosen your worship kneepads, obamanoid.
Why would people let go. Obama could just produce his birth certificate and settle the matter. Or maybe he can’t produce it because it does not exist.
so out of curiosity, he has lawyers defending these lawsuits, so how much has he spent?
Wow, I had no idea Obama was still paying people to stick up for him on the internet. Welcome to FRerepublic Mr. Troll.
Lay off the crack pipe a**hole.
If you don't like the topic, you can go to any other thread.
I would almost guarantee a black clerk int he office decided to make a game of the filing, to get it dismissed for her messiah, so she packed the document sent to the judge with garbage. And nothing will be done to her over the abuse of her position or the miscarriage of justice she attempted. Remember the woman who dove into Joe the Plumber’s files in Ohio? Barry has many worshipful aides spread throughout the legal system, some of whom work at the subpreme court level.
Isn't this wonderful, the law and the lawyers, I mean? The question is one that an off-the-boat Pakistani cab driver could understand, and these people turn it into gobbledygook that less than 0.005% of the population can understand. It should be illegal to write laws and/or issue opinions with that include any word that does not appear in the Declaration or in the Constitution and amendments.
I don’t know what’s going on with that... up above... LOL...
I’ll be just as interested as anyone else to find out what it means.
How many legal teams does Obama have? At least two. One in CA and one on the east coast. One was on the pidgeon case.
Who is Joyce? Is this an attorney helping Phil Berg.
I know Phil is a Dem but I really admire the guy. He said he is doing it for the troops who have died defending the Constitution. He is like a little steamroller and Thomas the Tank engine. Just going along slowly and never giving up. Keep going Phil.
If you read just the recent USSC filings and the number of times Zer0’s lawyers have filed “No Standing” and “No Jurisdiction” it is obvious that lawyers are indeed working on his side. You would be remiss and naive to think otherwise. What pisses me off even more is I am fully aware that it is “We the People” that are paying for this.
I believe a pro hac vice order is simply allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in the court in question.
***I looked it up and that’s what it says. I’d read on another thread that Berg wasn’t licensed to practice in this court.
I hope someone can translate what the rest of this means before the thread gets jammed with naysayers.
O is like the Emperor with his new clothes. We “birthers” are the little boy pointing out that the Emperor is naked.
This is not going away. Phil Berg will NEVER give up.
Hey, newbie schmuck!
We don't need your kind around here using the words and phrases of the enemy. Those who have studied the issue of "natural-born-citizen" might have different ideas about what the Framers intended, but at least we care what it was they intended. You schmucks who say it doesn't matter what it says in the Constitution, or that some questionable jpg image is some sort of proof of anything will reap what you sow, unfortunately for the rest of us.
So why hide the basic facts that are part of everyones history and are required by any number of State and Federal agencies? You and I have produced these documents willingly for any number of reasons throughout our lives. No one has had to take us to court to prove who we are.
Thanks...wish I could go down to Lowe’s and buy a case of it right now.
Obama’s clerk at work again???????
Socialists are anything but patriotic. I was also skeptical myself, but like you I wondered why so much money and effort was being made to keep things under lock and key. Logic tells me because there is something to hide. It’s illogical to spend so much money, time and effort to keep a $10 document sealed. This leads me to conclude the truth is more damaging to Obama than the expense to keep it from the light of day.
Ever go to an IRS office? I think they meet the 12.5% quota with ease.
Or Zero’s Medical Records, or Zero’s Passport Records,ur His Client Records, or His Driver’s License Records, or His Bar Records?? ZERO is a TRUE PHANTOM! NOTHING, NOTHING in his Past hasn’t been Laundered or Deleted!! Why was Zero allowed to Campaign for a Mass Murderer in KENYA as a United States Senator which is blatantly Illegal? and NO ONE Took Him to Task, even the Republican Candidate and Republican Party? WHY? WHY? Steele better start listening to the ONLY VOICE WE APPEAR TO HAVE, that of RUSH LIMBAUGH!
Another way to fight this is every Red State pass a law that requires the Sec of State to ask the candidates for a BC before his name can be placed on the ballot. If that law exists by 2012, BO either produces the doc or forfeit running in those states. If he challenges the law, that would create a public furor and increase curiosity in the issue. BO may avoid the problem in 2012 by not running for reelection.
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