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Hollister v Soetoro update 3/2/09
scribd ^ | 3/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 03/02/2009 4:55:27 PM PST by rxsid

"ORDER ON MOTION OF PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE AND LAWRENCE J. JOYCE, ESQUIRE TO VACATE THIS COURT’S ORDER OF FEBRUARY 4, 2009 HOLDING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice IN ABEYANCE and GRANTING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice" [snip]

Motion to Vacate


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berg; birthers; hollister; obama; soetoro; truthers
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1 posted on 03/02/2009 4:55:27 PM PST by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Can someone translate?


2 posted on 03/02/2009 4:55:54 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: rxsid

I believe a pro hac vice order is simply allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in the court in question.


3 posted on 03/02/2009 4:59:09 PM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Marie2

> Can someone translate?

“Obambi is the president, but birthers still cannot let it go. Film at 11.”


4 posted on 03/02/2009 4:59:23 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: rxsid

You don’t have to, but it would be helpful if you would provide a summary of just what this really means please?


5 posted on 03/02/2009 4:59:50 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: mquinn

“Obambi is the president, but Patriotic Americans still cannot let it go. Film at 11.”

There,

Corrected.


6 posted on 03/02/2009 5:01:22 PM PST by mountaineer1997
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To: mountaineer1997

Birthers are anything but patriotic.


7 posted on 03/02/2009 5:02:41 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn

Thank you Tokyo Rose.


8 posted on 03/02/2009 5:03:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rxsid

Wow!

Does that judge have it in for them or what?!? What games are going on?!?!


9 posted on 03/02/2009 5:04:49 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Does that judge have it in for them or what?

Was I wrong in my reading that this is simply a judge's order allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in his court? It looked like a procedural ruling that was in favor of this continuing.

10 posted on 03/02/2009 5:06:28 PM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mquinn
“Birthers are anything but patriotic.”

Really? Why? I thought it was all crap, but now I have this question, “Why would BO spend a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?” It makes no sense, unless he is hiding something, and now I am curious.

11 posted on 03/02/2009 5:06:47 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: rxsid
Appears there is a 2nd doc filed today...

Objection to the Filing of Defendants’ Reply Memorandum

"Plaintiff Gregory S. Hollister objects to the filing of Defendants’ “REPLY MEMORANDUM OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA and VICE PRESIDENT JOSEPH BIDEN IN SUPPORT OF THEIR MOTION TO DISMISS”. First of all, this honorable Court gave Plaintiff Hollister only two [2] days to respond to Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, a motion which in fact had already been mooted by Plaintiff’s filing of his First Amended Complaint. By contrast, Defendants’ filed this Memorandum at issue here thirteen [13] days after Plaintiff Hollister’s Brief and Memorandum of Law in Opposition to Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss was filed, when this Honorable Court had not even set any schedule for such a filing at all." [snip]

Objection to the Filing of Defendants’ Reply Memorandum

12 posted on 03/02/2009 5:06:56 PM PST by rxsid
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To: MPJackal

I was a skeptic myself once.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 5:07:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rxsid
"Justice"

Good thing they had ESP to know they had been ordered!

Although Plaintiff’s counsel has not been issued an ECF log-in or password, which would have emailed Counsel upon the filing of a document through the ECF system (due to Plaintiff’s counsels’ motions for admission pro hac vice not yet being granted), Counsel learned of the Order in time to properly comply with the Order of this Court.
And what the heck was going on here?!!?
The Order to Show Cause stated, “Instead of the opposition plaintiff was ordered to file by 2/13/09 (or defendants' motion to dismiss would be granted as conceded, see [#10], what plaintiff filed was (a) the affidavit of a paralegal (who works in the office of a Pennsylvania lawyer who has not been admitted to practice in this Court), complaining about her treatment by an employee of the Clerk's Office, and (b) many blank pages, decorated only by what appear to be botanical drawings and the illegible photocopy of an Hawaiian certificate of live birth. (a) The affidavit was apparently intended as a response to my earlier observation that plaintiff's motion to file interpleader was frivolous, see [#2], [#10], the argument being, "Maureen Higgins made me do it." What was frivolous about the motion, however, was not the fact that it was filed, but the suggestion that (a) "duties" could be filed in the registry of this court. (b) The blank pages were either somebody's idea of a joke (in which case I don't get it) or a mistake. If the latter, plaintiffs have until 5:00 pm EST on 2/26/09 to correct it, by re-filing their points and authorities in opposition to the pending motion to dismiss (in the .pdf format required by the Court's CM/EDF system), or otherwise to show cause why that motion should not now be granted as conceded. It is SO ORDERED.”
Is someone in the Court playing games? Did they actually send this?
14 posted on 03/02/2009 5:08:07 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: MPJackal

I hear numbers being thrown around for the amount being spent in defense, but no good primary sources. Anyone got them?


15 posted on 03/02/2009 5:09:07 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mnehrling

Read the pages beyond the first.


16 posted on 03/02/2009 5:09:29 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mquinn

You are NASTY. If you can not answer the question then keep your hands off the key board!


17 posted on 03/02/2009 5:12:13 PM PST by classical artist
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To: mquinn; Marie2
What an idiot. Tell me, are you one of those posters that kept saying when this first started that "Bozo will show his BC soon and make Republicans look like fools, he is just playing with us!". Well, if he is going to make us look like fools he had better hurry because sooner or later this case will be heard.

I didn't believe this stuff either but the more he fights it the more I believe he is not a Natural born citizen, actually, according to the constitution he isn't even without his BC, he only has one US citizen parent.

Soon, soon someone will force this decision and then the only one who will look like fools are people like you.

18 posted on 03/02/2009 5:13:43 PM PST by calex59
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To: Gondring
"I hear numbers being thrown around for the amount being spent in defense, but no good primary sources. Anyone got them?"

Don't think that definitively exists in the public realm.

One can add up the number of lawyers filling documents on behalf of Barry in the various courts across American, then determine how much they customarily charge and come up with an estimate. Question remains, why go through so much effort to prevent a copy of the long form b.c. from being release (or his college records)?

19 posted on 03/02/2009 5:13:46 PM PST by rxsid
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To: classical artist

Agreed, a lawyer probably.

Don’t care much for his attitude. In fact, I don’t care for it at all.

Cancel this thread.


20 posted on 03/02/2009 5:15:25 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: calex59
"according to the constitution he isn't even without his BC, he only has one US citizen parent. "

Indeed correct. The B.C. will merely determine weather or not he is even an illegal alien as there is zero proof he is a Naturalized Citizen (which unto itself would make him ineligible for POTUS).

21 posted on 03/02/2009 5:16:04 PM PST by rxsid
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To: MPJackal

“Why would BO spend a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?”

You’re not supposed to ask that question. It is irrelevant of what nationality he is. He’s the people’s choice.


22 posted on 03/02/2009 5:16:38 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: mquinn
Birthers are anything but patriotic.

Pardon me?

23 posted on 03/02/2009 5:19:02 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: rxsid

Bravo. well said!


24 posted on 03/02/2009 5:20:14 PM PST by classical artist
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To: MPJackal
“Why would BO spend a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?” It makes no sense,

You're right, it makes no sense. It also happens not to be true.

It amazes me how many false internet rumors get uncritically accepted as gospel truth by so many people.

25 posted on 03/02/2009 5:22:00 PM PST by curiosity
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To: mquinn

So I’m unpatriotic despite my 18 years of honorable service in the USN? Have you served, troll?


26 posted on 03/02/2009 5:23:32 PM PST by Duck Fan
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To: mquinn

You need to loosen your worship kneepads, obamanoid.


27 posted on 03/02/2009 5:25:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: hoosiermama; Red Steel; True Republican Patriot; Frantzie; BP2; Star Traveler; FreeManN

ping


28 posted on 03/02/2009 5:26:50 PM PST by rxsid
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To: mquinn

@mquinn

Why would people let go. Obama could just produce his birth certificate and settle the matter. Or maybe he can’t produce it because it does not exist.


29 posted on 03/02/2009 5:28:08 PM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (Sell the left short this cycle.)
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To: curiosity

so out of curiosity, he has lawyers defending these lawsuits, so how much has he spent?


30 posted on 03/02/2009 5:28:24 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: mquinn

Wow, I had no idea Obama was still paying people to stick up for him on the internet. Welcome to FRerepublic Mr. Troll.


31 posted on 03/02/2009 5:28:56 PM PST by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: mquinn

@mquinn

Lay off the crack pipe a**hole.


32 posted on 03/02/2009 5:29:31 PM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (Sell the left short this cycle.)
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To: mquinn
“Obambi is the president, but Patriotic Americans who are concerned about upholding the Constitution still cannot let it go. Film at 11.”

If you don't like the topic, you can go to any other thread.

33 posted on 03/02/2009 5:29:47 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Gondring

I would almost guarantee a black clerk int he office decided to make a game of the filing, to get it dismissed for her messiah, so she packed the document sent to the judge with garbage. And nothing will be done to her over the abuse of her position or the miscarriage of justice she attempted. Remember the woman who dove into Joe the Plumber’s files in Ohio? Barry has many worshipful aides spread throughout the legal system, some of whom work at the subpreme court level.


34 posted on 03/02/2009 5:31:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rxsid
TO VACATE THIS COURT’S ORDER OF FEBRUARY 4, 2009 HOLDING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice IN ABEYANCE and GRANTING THEIR MOTION FOR ADMISSION pro hac vice

Isn't this wonderful, the law and the lawyers, I mean? The question is one that an off-the-boat Pakistani cab driver could understand, and these people turn it into gobbledygook that less than 0.005% of the population can understand. It should be illegal to write laws and/or issue opinions with that include any word that does not appear in the Declaration or in the Constitution and amendments.

ML/NJ

35 posted on 03/02/2009 5:32:46 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: rxsid

I don’t know what’s going on with that... up above... LOL...

I’ll be just as interested as anyone else to find out what it means.


36 posted on 03/02/2009 5:35:34 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Gondring

How many legal teams does Obama have? At least two. One in CA and one on the east coast. One was on the pidgeon case.

Who is Joyce? Is this an attorney helping Phil Berg.

I know Phil is a Dem but I really admire the guy. He said he is doing it for the troops who have died defending the Constitution. He is like a little steamroller and Thomas the Tank engine. Just going along slowly and never giving up. Keep going Phil.


37 posted on 03/02/2009 5:35:49 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: curiosity

If you read just the recent USSC filings and the number of times Zer0’s lawyers have filed “No Standing” and “No Jurisdiction” it is obvious that lawyers are indeed working on his side. You would be remiss and naive to think otherwise. What pisses me off even more is I am fully aware that it is “We the People” that are paying for this.


38 posted on 03/02/2009 5:38:07 PM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: mnehrling

I believe a pro hac vice order is simply allowing an out of state lawyer to appear in the court in question.

***I looked it up and that’s what it says. I’d read on another thread that Berg wasn’t licensed to practice in this court.

I hope someone can translate what the rest of this means before the thread gets jammed with naysayers.


39 posted on 03/02/2009 5:38:32 PM PST by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: mquinn

40 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:20 PM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: 353FMG

O is like the Emperor with his new clothes. We “birthers” are the little boy pointing out that the Emperor is naked.

This is not going away. Phil Berg will NEVER give up.


41 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:30 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: mquinn
Birthers are anything but patriotic.

Hey, newbie schmuck!

We don't need your kind around here using the words and phrases of the enemy. Those who have studied the issue of "natural-born-citizen" might have different ideas about what the Framers intended, but at least we care what it was they intended. You schmucks who say it doesn't matter what it says in the Constitution, or that some questionable jpg image is some sort of proof of anything will reap what you sow, unfortunately for the rest of us.

ML/NJ

42 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:36 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Gondring
The numbers are not important. What is important is that Obama has hired lawyers to object to any exposure of his past. A past that no one knows about except what he dictated in his books.

So why hide the basic facts that are part of everyones history and are required by any number of State and Federal agencies? You and I have produced these documents willingly for any number of reasons throughout our lives. No one has had to take us to court to prove who we are.

43 posted on 03/02/2009 5:41:22 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: IrishPennant

nice! haha.


44 posted on 03/02/2009 5:42:31 PM PST by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Thanks...wish I could go down to Lowe’s and buy a case of it right now.


45 posted on 03/02/2009 5:45:49 PM PST by IrishPennant ("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
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To: FreeManN; BP2

Obama’s clerk at work again???????


46 posted on 03/02/2009 5:46:21 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: MPJackal

Socialists are anything but patriotic. I was also skeptical myself, but like you I wondered why so much money and effort was being made to keep things under lock and key. Logic tells me because there is something to hide. It’s illogical to spend so much money, time and effort to keep a $10 document sealed. This leads me to conclude the truth is more damaging to Obama than the expense to keep it from the light of day.


47 posted on 03/02/2009 6:06:54 PM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: MHGinTN

Ever go to an IRS office? I think they meet the 12.5% quota with ease.


48 posted on 03/02/2009 6:08:47 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: rxsid

Or Zero’s Medical Records, or Zero’s Passport Records,ur His Client Records, or His Driver’s License Records, or His Bar Records?? ZERO is a TRUE PHANTOM! NOTHING, NOTHING in his Past hasn’t been Laundered or Deleted!! Why was Zero allowed to Campaign for a Mass Murderer in KENYA as a United States Senator which is blatantly Illegal? and NO ONE Took Him to Task, even the Republican Candidate and Republican Party? WHY? WHY? Steele better start listening to the ONLY VOICE WE APPEAR TO HAVE, that of RUSH LIMBAUGH!


49 posted on 03/02/2009 6:20:23 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Great President George W. Bush)
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To: calex59

Another way to fight this is every Red State pass a law that requires the Sec of State to ask the candidates for a BC before his name can be placed on the ballot. If that law exists by 2012, BO either produces the doc or forfeit running in those states. If he challenges the law, that would create a public furor and increase curiosity in the issue. BO may avoid the problem in 2012 by not running for reelection.


50 posted on 03/02/2009 6:22:45 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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