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US: 'Inescapable' movement to Palestinian state
Associated Press ^ | March 3, 2009 | MATTI FRIEDMAN

Posted on 03/03/2009 11:31:29 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

JERUSALEM (AP) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised Tuesday to work with the incoming Israeli government, but delivered a clear message that could put her at odds with the country's next leader: Movement toward the establishment of a Palestinian state is "inescapable."

Clinton also said the U.S. would soon send two envoys to Syria. It was the most significant sign yet that the Obama administration is ready to mend relations with the Damascus regime. The U.S. withdrew its ambassador in 2005, accusing Syria of supporting terrorism.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: enemyofgod; enemywithin; piaps

1 posted on 03/03/2009 11:31:30 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

2 posted on 03/03/2009 11:33:56 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Free ThinkerNY
2001: "Let's roll!"

2009: "Let's roll over."

3 posted on 03/03/2009 11:36:33 AM PST by Dagnabitt (What (child) would Mohammad do?)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...
added to the list, ping

President Obama's 6th week in office

* Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised Tuesday to work with the incoming Israeli government, but delivered a clear message that could put her at odds with the country's next leader: Movement toward the establishment of a Palestinian state is "inescapable."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96MNP2O0&show_article=1&catnum=0

Full list at nachumlist.com

4 posted on 03/03/2009 11:36:44 AM PST by Nachum (Documented Obama confusion: www.nachumlist.com)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

78% of American Jews voted for Hussein the friend of Hamas.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 11:37:07 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

ROFLMAO


6 posted on 03/03/2009 11:38:37 AM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought that history teaches that Jordan is a “Palestinian State”.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 11:38:38 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Frantzie
78% of American Jews voted for Hussein the friend of Hamas.

I know this figure is widely quoted. But how was it arrived at? I didn't disclose my religion when I voted. Did you? Is it strictly from exit polling? I know many, many conservative Jews who would never have voted for Zero. I wonder if the media (or pollsters) have an agenda with regard to Jews and Zero. Based upon Zero's wide unpopularity in Israel, I question whether he garnered that many American Jewish votes.

8 posted on 03/03/2009 11:42:29 AM PST by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Simply a continuation of the Bush Policy.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 11:45:15 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Blennos

I’ve wondered the same thing.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 11:46:04 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Free ThinkerNY

they don’t want their own state. they already turned it down twice. they want Israel eliminated.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 11:48:48 AM PST by wny
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ya right Hillary. And the democrats have such a fine track record in the middle east peace process. Carter, Clinton both miserable failures.


12 posted on 03/03/2009 11:49:37 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What is wrong with having a Palestinian state?


13 posted on 03/03/2009 11:49:43 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Free ThinkerNY; 444Flyer; TaraP; Esther Ruth; Diana in Wisconsin; XeniaSt; G8 Diplomat

“Inescapable”

Daniel 11:36-39, Joel 3:1-2. It has been foretold. It is going to happen. It will seem to work ... at first.

(see 1:58 in the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6HF_8axllQ

(ping to thread for others)


14 posted on 03/03/2009 12:00:26 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: PurpleMan

what’s wrong is they already HAVE a “2 state solution”, when 90% of the British Mandate was given to the arabs.

those people are Jordanians/Egyptians, and they have no part in Israel. They should/could be taken in by the arab states, but they are ONLY there as a thorn to Israel, for the SINGLE purpose of destroying Israel, piece by piece if necessary.

You didn’t know that?


15 posted on 03/03/2009 12:02:09 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The British Mandate was The Balfour Declaration of 1917... “given to the Arabs.”

I would think that nearly a hundred years later when there is no Palistinian state, discussion of one would be prudent.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 12:08:52 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Paladin2
I thought that history teaches that Jordan is a “Palestinian State”.

Israel in 1922:

Then there was "Land for Peace" with the Evil One.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
17 posted on 03/03/2009 12:12:25 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: PurpleMan; Diogenesis; Yehuda; XeniaSt; dennisw

They gave the Jews something like 18% (IIRC) to appease the Arabs. Even that was too much for the Arabs who attacked in 1948, 1956 and were preparing to do so in 1967. Jordan lost the West Bank during that time. Prior to that, Jordan controlled that land and never created a “Palestinian state”.

This whole thing is a lie with the intent of the final assault on destroying the nation of Israel. It will result in Armageddon, but with a false peace first.


18 posted on 03/03/2009 12:13:45 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: PurpleMan

“The British Mandate was The Balfour Declaration of 1917... “given to the Arabs.”

I would think that nearly a hundred years later when there is no Palistinian state, discussion of one would be prudent”

No, because the only purpose is the total destruction of Israel as a nation.

Time changes nothing. Should Mexico be able to have the south west US now? Should discussion of that be prudent? Maybe Russia should be allowed to have some of Alaska now? Would that be prudent?

Those people are Jordanians, and egyptians, from 50 years ago. There never was anything called a “palestinian” - that was the arbitrary antisemitic name given the region by the Romans. Everyone who lived there was sometimes called a “palestinian”, in the 40s there was a jerusalem newspaper “the palestinian post” which was a JEwish newspaper.

the whole thing is a bunch of false premises. they could easily be absorbed by the huge muslim countries around, for that is where they CAME from in the 1st place.


19 posted on 03/03/2009 12:16:44 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: PurpleMan

It’s been prudent for several decades. They could have had their own country a long time ago.

The only thing standing in the way of a Palestinian State is their incredibly stupid governments. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Israel would like to live in peace with them, but hey insist on attacking Israel on a daily basis. Just think for a moment, if the Mexican government started lobbing rockets into El Paso. I think you could expect UAVs in the air, A10s, Spectres and a large contingent of Marines on the border, ready to rock and roll.

Which may suggest a solution for Ciudad Juarez. The last time Marines showed up in a Latin country, Honduras, the fighting ended (with Guatemala, Nixon Administration). Immediately. They lost boots trying to get out of the area they ran so fast.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 12:21:49 PM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: F15Eagle

Right. It that bible stuff driving our foreign policy.


21 posted on 03/03/2009 1:15:12 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“they could easily be absorbed by the huge muslim countries around, for that is where they CAME from in the 1st place.”

So then, your solution is to have Israel take over all of it and then deport all the Arabs back to “the huge muslim countries around where they CAME from in the 1st place.”

Like that’ll work?


22 posted on 03/03/2009 1:18:25 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: F15Eagle
“Inescapable”...is that a threat, a fact or a suggestion?

The only thing “inescapable” will be the Lord's wrath on those who curse Israel.

23 posted on 03/03/2009 1:23:03 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: PurpleMan

“all of it”

It’s not a big place.
compare to the arab world: http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld.htm
compare to lake michigan: http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/lakemich.htm
compare to NJ: http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/new_jersey.htm

“deport all the Arabs back to “the huge muslim countries around where they CAME from in the 1st place.””

That is my position, yes.

“Like that’ll work?”

Why not? Muslims should be deported from the US also. They are adherants of a religion which commands them to take over by any means. If this “like that’ll work?” is where you’re honestly at, you’re somewhere on this curve (I would estimate about 5.6):

* Stage 1 (negation): Germany is not at all rearming.

* Stage 2 (bagatellisation): Okay, but not very much.

* Stage 3 (relativating): Okay, but in relation to GB, France and Soviets, it is a tiny army.

* Stage 4 (psychologization): Okay, but try to understand how they must feel surrounded, yes, under siege by many other nations!

* Stage 5 (disengagement): Okay, but now it is too dangerous to confront them.

* Stage 6 (appeasement): For hell, don’t provoke them! That will only worsen the situation.

* Stage 7 (resignation): We can’t do anything about it.


24 posted on 03/03/2009 1:26:56 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Movement toward the establishment of a Palestinian state is “inescapable.”

And if Israel does not agree, then what?

Whoever is in charge of Israel has some serious challenges facing them.

schu

25 posted on 03/03/2009 1:27:18 PM PST by schu
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“Muslims should be deported from the US also.”

Wow.

Better idea.

Reopen the former Japanese internment camps and send them there. That way we can keep an eye on them, supply them with food laced with COCP and RU-486 (or force the women to have NORPLANTS and the men vasectomies) and force feed them “The Bible.” (Hmm who will do that? Baptists? Mormons? Catholics? Amillennialist? Dispensationalists? Unitarian Universalists?)


26 posted on 03/03/2009 1:43:35 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Very selective copy function you have there. And that’s rather a large straw man you have constructed also.

What do you say about this part here:

“They are adherants of a religion which commands them to take over by any means”

?

Buddhists don’t have that. Jews don’t have that. Bahaiists don’t have that. Christians don’t have that. ONLY ISLAM HAS THAT.

“KILL OR CONVERT” IS THE CENTRAL THEME OF THE KOORAN. NO OTHER RELIGION IS LIKE IT. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH FREE GOVERNMENT. THEY WILL ONLY TAKE A LOW PROFILE AS LONG AS THEY HAVE TO, UNTIL IT IS LIKE EUROPE, WHERE THEY ARE ON THE EDGE OF TAKING OVER. FOOLISH PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE BEING “MODERATE” OR “BALANCED” ARE THE REASON WHY. THEY WILL INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS UNTIL IT IS LIKE EUROPE, AND THEN WE WILL BE F****D.

FOOLS LET THEIR FORGIVING TENDENCIES BE THEIR DESTRUCTION. FOOLS.


27 posted on 03/03/2009 1:49:40 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: PurpleMan

At the absolute minimum they should be given the choice of personally crossing out all the stuff about “convert or kill”, and killing christians & jews & probably a few other bits in their kooran, or be deported.

The kooran is inherantly a terrorist document, and only people who disavow terrorism should be given leave to remain.


28 posted on 03/03/2009 1:59:28 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: PurpleMan

Only by pushing for the extreme of what would benefit you, can you get ANY of what benefits you. Have you learned NOTHING from the last 50 years of leftism?


29 posted on 03/03/2009 2:01:50 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: PurpleMan

Well, that’s only 180 degrees off. It’s the fact that they don’t take it seriously that guarantees it will happen.

I agree it sounds far-fetched. But watch it unfold.

(Some of) those dividing Israel think they’re doing the “right thing”.

They aren’t. But they won’t know that until it’s too late.

Most of the world will not recognize it. But it definitely is going to happen.


30 posted on 03/03/2009 2:05:49 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 444Flyer

When I heard “inescapable” I immediately thought of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-4


31 posted on 03/03/2009 2:08:42 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle

Wow...yes.


32 posted on 03/03/2009 2:22:16 PM PST by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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