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U.S. Says Threat of Mexican Drug Cartels Approaching 'Crisis Proportions'
FOX News ^ | March 03, 2009

Posted on 03/03/2009 2:19:01 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

Two of Mexico's deadliest drug cartels have reached a combined force of 100,000 foot soldiers, wreaking havoc across the country and threatening U.S. border states, the U.S. Defense Department told The Washington Times.

The cartels rival the Mexican army in size and have both Mexico and the U.S. in crisis mode as they deal with what they fear is a coming insurgency along the border.

"It's moving to crisis proportions," an unidentified defense official told The Times. The official also said the cartels have reached a size where they are on par with Mexico's army of 130,000.

About 7,000 people have died in the last year — more than 1,000 in January alone — at the hands of Mexico's increasingly violent drug cartels. Murders often involve beheadings or bodies dissolved in vats of acid.

The two most dangerous cartels are the Sinaloa cartel, nicknamed the "Federation" or "Golden Triangle" by law enforcement agencies, and "Los Zetas" (the Gulf Cartel). They have been growing and are reportedly discussing a truce or merger to better withstand government forces, The Times reported.

Mexico is now only behind Pakistan and Iran as a U.S. national security concern, coming in ahead of Afghanistan and Iraq, the defense official told The Times.

The country's attorney general, Eduardo Medina Mora, called last week for more U.S. prosecutions of people who sell weapons illegally to the cartels, as well as more efforts to stop drug profits from flowing south.

Mexico has spent $6.5 billion over the last two years, on top of its normal public security budget, on the fight against drugs, but that falls short of the $10 billion Mexican drug gangs bring in annually, he said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; cartels; corruption; democrats; drugwarconsequences; immigrantlist; mexico; sinaloa; thankprohibition; zetas
At least 100,000 soldiers have deserted the Mexican military over the past eight years.
1 posted on 03/03/2009 2:19:01 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

When, oh when, will our PRE_ _ SENT step in and CHANGE this? I have high HOPE that he will, soon.

Seriously, we should be moving troops to our border.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 2:20:54 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

How about protecting the border, building effing fence and deport illegals. This is why we have the military and national guard.


3 posted on 03/03/2009 2:21:18 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This was the lead story in the Washington Times today. Very alarming. Good thing we have that fence and all those troops on the border.


4 posted on 03/03/2009 2:21:50 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: papasmurf
And still there is no wall and no American troops defending our border. That is the main function of the federal government and while they spend $$ (both real and nonexistent) on everything imaginable, our citizens at the border are unprotected. That is unconscionable.
5 posted on 03/03/2009 2:23:10 PM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SwinneySwitch; Jack Black

....”The cartels rival the Mexican army in size and have both Mexico and the U.S. in crisis mode as they deal with what they fear is a coming insurgency along the border.”

...laying the ground work for the coming race war in America....if you called out the national guard, the hispanic troops could go over or go home....and take their weapons with them.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 2:23:38 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Heartland Mom

It’s disgusting.

Worse, it’s preventable.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 2:25:14 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I know .... The Prez can start exporting some of his Hopium to Mexico as payback for all the drugs they import to the USA.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 2:25:43 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: papasmurf

I have the same questions. What is our government doing about it. Maybe we should just put them all in 18 wheelers and deliver them to the White House.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 2:28:44 PM PST by RC2
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To: SwinneySwitch

Unfortunately not only Obama, but Bush was very weak in dealing with Mexico.

To truly stop this crisis....the US needs to:

- Seal and secure the border...no one enters the US unless they are US citizens....no one leaves unless they are Mexican...also prevents the gun shipments claimed by Mexico

- Abrogate NAFTA, as pertains to Mexico....seems the only thing being traded with Mexico now are drugs. The treaty is now a threat to our national security.

- Move all illegal alien drug dealer prisoners to one or two exclusive US facilities....near the border. Keep them away from the general prison population.

- Put US military on the border. Allow them to fire on anyone who approaches 100 yards of the US border

- Any Mexican cartel drug dealer caught on US soil will be held as an enemy combatant...given a summary military trail...and punished immediately (including capital punishment)

Its time to stop coddling the anti-American pro-illegal pro-Mexico element. They are threat to national security.

Anything short of these measures taken are tantamount to treason


10 posted on 03/03/2009 2:29:53 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: papasmurf

“Seriously, we should be moving troops to our border.”

AMEN!!!!!!!

We need to militarize the border NOW! If/when the Mexican government collapses, we have to prevent millions of additional people from flooding across the border into California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and beyond.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 2:31:31 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Mexico and the U.S. in crisis mode as they deal with what they fear is a coming insurgency along the border. "It's moving to crisis proportions,"

Well, by all means, lets just sit and watch it happen. We have plenty of time until it's out of control. Zero is too busy enjoying the White House with parties and concerts, riding around in AirForce One and tanking the economy to be bothered with these kind of problems.

12 posted on 03/03/2009 2:32:10 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: La Lydia
Good thing we have that fence and all those troops on the border.

John McCain has a better idea--make 'em all US citizens and let them pick lettuce for $50/hour.

13 posted on 03/03/2009 2:33:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SwinneySwitch

Do I have to say it again?
Annex Mexico, send in the Army and restore order while we set up a territorial government.
Winfield Scott siezed New Mexico and California in the 1800s. It’s time to take the rest and turn it into something morthwhile.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 2:37:47 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Obama needs to Fail !)
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To: papasmurf

No, he is instead thinking of limiting our second amendment rights in response to this problem — which seems perfectly logical and appropriate when you’re a Communist.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 2:39:05 PM PST by xander
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To: SwinneySwitch

So, like, close down the border already.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 2:41:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: SwinneySwitch

“The country’s attorney general, Eduardo Medina Mora, called last week for more U.S. prosecutions of people who sell weapons illegally to the cartels....”

Yeah, that’s right, blame American gun owners for the acquisition of automatic weapons and RPGs. Putzhead!

This is corrupt Mexican Army personnel making lots of pesos for selling equipment that belongs to their Army.

We should solve the problem by building a huge wall across the entire border, putting up a guard tower every mile along its length and putting in a quad .50 mount and 50,000 rounds of linked ammo. Back that up with fast, mobile reserves of men and armored vehicles, along with a few dozen Apaches. Build the wall, towers, guns, ammo, armored vehicles and Apaches from scratch, with American workers. That’ll make us safer and richer, both.

Which is why Clueless Leader won’t do it - it makes too much sense.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 2:44:49 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant-wannabee: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: papasmurf

I’m thinking that Obama will continue sending our military to foreign countries and then use whatever large-scale emergencies that occur in this country as an excuse to establish his brownshirt forces.


18 posted on 03/03/2009 2:46:49 PM PST by ChocChipCookie ("Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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To: SwinneySwitch

bookmark


19 posted on 03/03/2009 2:49:54 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Frantzie

It sounds like it’s coming to the point that a fence won’t protect us. We cannot have a Somalia on our southern border. Such a scenario does no good for us or for the people of Mexico. If the Mexican Army cannot maintain control, then another army is going to have to step in to help- ours, Canada’s, or both.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 2:50:48 PM PST by bobjam
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To: Frantzie
The turkey in the White House could do that with a stroke of his pen, if he wanted to.
21 posted on 03/03/2009 2:52:32 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Oh come one!

They are just honest, decent, people looking to support their families and committing the murders Amricans just refuse to do...

Open the gates, let them in..... oh wait; there are no gates!


22 posted on 03/03/2009 2:53:11 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: YellowRoseofTx; All

“Mark my words,” Joe Biden said in a Seattle fundraiser, “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”


23 posted on 03/03/2009 2:53:18 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Frantzie

Our government has betrayed the American people.

The federal governments prime responsibility is to secure the borders and provide for a defense of this nation.

Instead, what they’ve done is allow sanctuary cities for illegals who have at the very minimum violated federal law.

If that person comes here illegally, takes up a forged federal document, commits perjury to obtain governmental services.....they have committed fraud, forgery, perjury to name a few felonies.

It is insane to hold American citizens to a different standard as those who essentially are FELONS.


24 posted on 03/03/2009 2:54:29 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

“The federal governments prime responsibility is to secure the borders and provide for a defense of this nation.”

And with Janet Napolitano as Secretary of Homeland Security, we’re screwed even more!


25 posted on 03/03/2009 2:57:33 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: bobjam

We are well past the point of a fence or wall protecting us and securing our border.

It needs to come from within Mexico, itself. I’m not a Mexico as a State or territory person, but perhaps a voluntary receivership might do. I’d rather we gave money to Mexico than Palestine, Egypt, Kenya, Syria, etc.

But, then again, we aren’t exactly in the position to be straightening out other Countries right now, are we?


26 posted on 03/03/2009 3:03:27 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: papasmurf

Maybe he and his top people could go negotiate with them, taking no guns and waving a white flag.

That would show he really has hope.


27 posted on 03/03/2009 3:08:22 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: bobjam

well I am not crazy about American boys dying for Mexico. Finish the fence, reinforce it, put the national guard on the border and deport illegals.

Somalia? It is growing in minnesota. Bringing Somalis into America was designed to destroy the country and it does not take that many of them. Incredibly unpleasant, combative, and litigious people and mostly Muslims.


28 posted on 03/03/2009 3:17:07 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Well our Attorney General does not see a problem. We are so screwed.


29 posted on 03/03/2009 3:20:50 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
“Mark my words,” Joe Biden said in a Seattle fundraiser, “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

I well remember his statement. We've already had a big one, the economy, how many more does he need to "test his mettle"? He fails by the day.

30 posted on 03/03/2009 3:23:53 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: STONEWALLS
...laying the ground work for the coming race war in America....if you called out the national guard, the Hispanic troops could go over or go home....and take their weapons with them.

Wrong! The Mexicans or for that matter all nationalities in the service are with very rare exceptions loyal United States Citizens.

Do not slander them sir!

31 posted on 03/03/2009 4:16:56 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: SwinneySwitch; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


32 posted on 03/03/2009 4:30:16 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: 70th Division

The same Attorney General who says we are “a nation of cowards”?


33 posted on 03/03/2009 4:30:36 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: AuntB; BGHater; nbhunt; jafojeffsurf; B.O. Plenty; skeptoid; Yellow Rose of Texas; RushingWater; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


34 posted on 03/03/2009 4:34:36 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Frantzie
"How about protecting the border, building effing fence and deport illegals. This is why we have the military and national guard."

First we have to give the order our Military and NG can use real bullets to defend themselves.

35 posted on 03/03/2009 4:40:09 PM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: STONEWALLS

That is completely wrong. I know several hispanic veterans and any one of them are welcome at my dinner table. They are very loyal to this country.


36 posted on 03/03/2009 5:06:26 PM PST by prairiebreeze (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: prairiebreeze; STONEWALLS
That is completely wrong. I know several hispanic veterans and any one of them are welcome at my dinner table. They are very loyal to this country.

From personal experience- It's a mixed bag. Some would, some wouldn't. There are hispanic gang members in the military with the expressed purpose of gaining military training and proficiency. Some are sent in by the Zetas, many of whom received their training from the U.S. Military before working for hire in the cartels. The Zetas and other gangs use our military as a out sourced training platform. Their first loyalty is to their gang, not the U.S military or the U.S. Constitution. Also, La Familia is a strong influence for most hispanics. Stronger than than the committment to duty as a soldier in some cases. It's not cut and dry one way or the other.

37 posted on 03/03/2009 5:18:43 PM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: cpdiii; prairiebreeze; TADSLOS

“Wrong! The Mexicans or for that matter all nationalities in the service are with very rare exceptions loyal United States Citizens.”

....What United States?....there’s not going to be any United States! .......wars of secession and partition have occurred 3 times here already(1776,1835,1861)....remember the ‘boat people’ of the 70s?.....wait til the ‘foot people’ start pouring over the Mexican border....those people will have to be turned back at gun point and they will resist at gunpoint...and that’s when the foundation phase of Reconquista will shift into it’s military phase....and the break up of the United States will begin.


38 posted on 03/03/2009 8:37:16 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

lol...we’re All beginning to sounds like broken records.

The real problem isn’t what we need to do, we’ve got that down pat. I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s discussing what ultimately needs to be done without breaking FR rules ;)


39 posted on 03/04/2009 5:18:12 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

So the US Defense Department is talking of crisis proportions huh.

Obviously, no one in our government cares. The democrats are in full spin destroying our nation daily. They haven’t the time for this sh*t. Besides, Barry has met with Clooney and probably has Darfur on mind for the troops in the future.

The GOP is powerless and suffering from destructive spine disease, too afraid of the MSM and Obama to stand up and call attention to something they have never cared about either.

So, who is going to stop it?


40 posted on 03/04/2009 5:41:04 AM PST by dforest
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To: SwinneySwitch

Apparently finishing the fence isn’t “shovel ready”.

No jobs created, no stimulus.


41 posted on 03/04/2009 5:53:24 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (CPA, MBA needs a job - referrals welcome)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The same Attorney General who says we are “a nation of cowards”?

He's projecting.

42 posted on 03/04/2009 11:41:19 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Coming to your state soon.


43 posted on 03/05/2009 5:40:30 PM PST by doc
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To: SwinneySwitch

At some point...the argument may be made...that if the One is going to neglect the southern border...he is AWOL/derelict in his duties as Commander in Chief....


44 posted on 03/05/2009 5:44:28 PM PST by mo
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