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No Labor Pains (Obama gives the go-ahead to card check to the AFL-CIO)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 44th Estate ^ | March 3, 2009 | Salena Zito

Posted on 03/03/2009 7:28:15 PM PST by Salena Zito

Here are the remarks (as prepared for delivery) that President Barack Obama spoke via video to the AFL-CIO executive Council in Miami today.

At the very end of the speech, Obama made what all of labor hoped and expected: a promise to pass the Employee Free Choice Act, or 'card-check' for short. Here goes:

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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1 posted on 03/03/2009 7:28:15 PM PST by Salena Zito
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To: Salena Zito

I guess our fellow countrymen wanted to get rid of divided government....and turn all power over to “the one.” The great American experiment died on 11/4/08.


2 posted on 03/03/2009 7:31:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Salena Zito
Consider the fight joined, and I will fight long and hard against the union thugs and for the secret ballot which is the bedrock of our democracy
3 posted on 03/03/2009 7:33:06 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: anniegetyourgun
I hope they come for my signature.

It'll be fun to give them the finger the same way Obammie the Commie gave the finger during the election.

4 posted on 03/03/2009 7:35:21 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Last Dakotan

They’ll just go after the disaffected, the young, the poor performance, the scared, the employees with the worst bosses, the uneducated, etc. in your workforce. Most of those will sign cards out of ignorance or fear. That’s all it takes.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 7:41:09 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

How will Arkansas’s two Democratic Senators vote?


6 posted on 03/03/2009 7:41:16 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Salena Zito

I notice that he piled mention of the card-check bill with every other ambition in the ‘five year plan’. First, I think he’s pumping sunshine up big labor’s ass. Second, I’m not convinced that this bill will make it through congress, or that he really even wants it to. I could be wrong, but my instinct says no.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 7:43:01 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: Salena Zito

“We have already started to change America on behalf of working people.”


8 posted on 03/03/2009 7:46:24 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: Salena Zito
The "Employee Free Choice Act"?

Something tells me that this is one of those things with a title totally opposite of what it actually does, kind of like "Fairness Doctrine" "Right to Choose" "People's Republic"

More Obamaspeak.

9 posted on 03/03/2009 7:46:35 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Salena Zito

“I do not view the labor movement as part of the problem. To me, and to my administration, labor unions are a big part of the solution. We need to level the playing field for workers and the unions that represent their interests — because we cannot have a strong middle class without a strong labor movement.”


10 posted on 03/03/2009 7:47:45 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: Salena Zito

“I want you to know that you will always have a seat at the table.”


11 posted on 03/03/2009 7:48:01 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: Salena Zito
I live in a right to work state and where I work they have a union. The first problem I have is they have my home address I don't have any of the elected officials address why not? They can send me their crap information and I can't send any of them a Christmas card. I think it's Bullbutter if you know what I mean.

In a hotly contested vote to get a union into or decertify one out of a right to work state work place I can guarantee that there will be stromtrouper tactics by the unions on the non union workers.

12 posted on 03/03/2009 7:51:01 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Seven plus One

it will pass congress no problem


13 posted on 03/03/2009 7:51:19 PM PST by Salena Zito (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/)
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To: Last Dakotan

Oh please. Like “one man, one vote, one time” is the bedrock of our democracy.

This is the same apocalyptic horse pucky the “manager class” tried with FMLA.


14 posted on 03/03/2009 7:55:04 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Salena Zito

My God, if the Senate Republicans can’t at least filibuster this piece of crap, they are worse than worthless.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 7:56:29 PM PST by Marathoner (The dream: 1-20-2013, hearing "I, Sarah Heath Palin, do solemnly swear...")
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To: guitarplayer1953
The first problem I have is they have my home address I don't have any of the elected officials address why not?

Did you ask?

16 posted on 03/03/2009 7:59:52 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Salena Zito

I bet Walmart is the first big target of the Union goons.


17 posted on 03/03/2009 8:03:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: anniegetyourgun

No doubt. The name of the damn thing is meant to confuse those you mention.


18 posted on 03/03/2009 8:03:56 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: papertyger

And by taking this “go-ahead”, the AFL-CIO has foresaken the American way and has declared its emnity to the republic. The stain of intimidation and thuggery will be the new union label.


19 posted on 03/03/2009 8:04:09 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: Salena Zito

Would be nice to have the video would love to see it on
drudge


20 posted on 03/03/2009 8:04:39 PM PST by bzybee
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To: papertyger

Yes and was told it was confidential information.


21 posted on 03/03/2009 8:05:21 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

For sure. They’ll end up being the new company store.


22 posted on 03/03/2009 8:06:26 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Salena Zito
He's following the socialist playbook.

Make the rich the enemy, its the "vote for me and I will take their money and give it to you".

Castro has been doing it for 50 years and Chavez has it down pat as well.

This sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud or it becomes a real problem.

The majority of people don't pay taxes, they intend to keep it that way by voting socialist.

23 posted on 03/03/2009 8:08:17 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Dionysius

Nonsense.

Shudder and shake to your heart’s content. “Intimidation and thuggery” is NOT a tactic that gets much play in the United States these days. Not without a racial component, anyway.


24 posted on 03/03/2009 8:12:56 PM PST by papertyger
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To: guitarplayer1953
Yes and was told it was confidential information.

And you just left it there?

25 posted on 03/03/2009 8:16:33 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Rome2000

“This sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud or it becomes a real problem.”

How? That is the big question.


26 posted on 03/03/2009 8:16:35 PM PST by Palladin (Mr. Geithner, we don't need advice from a tax cheat.)
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To: Palladin
Romanian Revolution of 1989
27 posted on 03/03/2009 8:17:19 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: jennyjenny

Unions are bad enough to screw up even Walmart. Obama continues his war on capitalism.


28 posted on 03/03/2009 8:18:07 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Salena Zito
I do not like the unions. At one time in our history the unions stood up for the worker when abused by companies. Those days are long past. Most nonunion workers are treated fairly and wages and benefits are competitive. Now the unions serve only themselves. My dad was in the teamsters for 50 years and when he fell ill and was unable to work the union did not fulfill it's obligations. But they still wanted the dues even if he was unable to pay. Eventually he died and my mother still got statements from union indicating he was late with his dues.

If you want a good picture of what the unions will do to the industries that are not under it's iron fist look at the auto industry. Once one of the most profitable industries in the US is now owned by the unions that constantly request unreasonable contracts. The unions are mostly filled with hard working Americans but the unions are run by thugs who only care about themselves and what they can take form industry and the individual. The cost of these contracts do nothing but increase the price of goods to everyone and the quality of the product suffers as well.

When we elected Obama we drove the death nail into the heart of the country. Obama and his administration want nothing but to make things so bad that they can justify the government taking over the private sector one industry at a time until all industry is gone and everyone works for the government. I love this country with all my heart and it makes me very sad at what Obama and the Democrats are doing to the country.

As far as the stimulus and Obama budget are concerned let me say this. When you are doing you family budget and find that you are in deficit do you go to the bank and borrow more money to pay off the debt, then sign a contract that says your children will pay back all principle and interest of the new debt? When did this become the American way of life. This is what Obama and the Democrats have done with the bailouts, stimulus and budgets projecting trillions of dollars all the way out until 2019. How can we in good conscience do this to the next generation.

29 posted on 03/03/2009 8:21:52 PM PST by reader25
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To: papertyger
I tried to join the union and they took it to a executive vote and I was not allowed to join even thought they represent me. I was very vocal in 2000 when we tried to decertifiy the collective bargaining unit of where I work.

The other problem I have is the stewards have a green bar print out of everyones seniority date and labor grade. This had always been confidential information but not any more. After they first got in they did a little fancy footwork of doing a add on to the bargain of giving union officials and union stewards employment protection in being bumped out of their labor grade of being layed off and being called back to work.

I have pointed out that this is a violation of my states constitutional rights to work that say that a persons employment and maintainment of employment can not be determined based upon being in the union or not in the union. Their answer was the unions have deep pockets and no one has ever fought this clause in a contract in a right to work state.

30 posted on 03/03/2009 8:31:16 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Seven plus One
I could be wrong, but my instinct says no.

Your instinct gives him way toooooooo much credit. He wants to be idolized and worshiped by Caesar Chavez, Fidel Castro, you, me and everyone else on the planet. There is no limit to this ape's ambition.

JMHO

31 posted on 03/03/2009 8:39:07 PM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: guitarplayer1953
I was very vocal in 2000 when we tried to decertifiy the collective bargaining unit of where I work.

And you expect cooperation? If you HAD been a member, they would have thrown you out!

The other problem I have is the stewards have a green bar print out of everyones seniority date and labor grade. This had always been confidential information but not any more.

It's not SUPPOSED to be confidential in a union shop. You may as well complain that other people know how much money you make, because it used to be confidential information...

I have pointed out that this is a violation of my states constitutional rights to work that say that a persons employment and maintainment of employment can not be determined based upon being in the union or not in the union.

If your interpretation is correct, you should have a fine case for the NLRB.

My question to you is "at what point do you conclude something is not the union's 'fault' and you are just wrong?"

32 posted on 03/03/2009 8:48:42 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Rome2000
The majority of people don't pay taxes, they intend to keep it that way by voting socialist.

How many of that "majority" do you suppose are union members?

33 posted on 03/03/2009 8:50:48 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger
This is getting scary. If you are not a government worker or a union worker you end up being a non-US resident in exile living in freedom somewhere else. The brains and the money are leaving.
34 posted on 03/03/2009 8:57:44 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Salena Zito
Capitalists and conservatives had better start punishing these people while it is still legal. Lay them off now before its too late.
35 posted on 03/03/2009 8:58:56 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Could you elaborate? I don’t understand your point.


36 posted on 03/03/2009 9:06:19 PM PST by papertyger
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To: April Lexington
The brains and the money are leaving.

Is that not, too, the market?

37 posted on 03/03/2009 9:08:32 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Yeah, I can just see the Congressional hearings on the "loss of American competitiveness in the world" circa 2011. Timed just right to help shove the O back down our throats for a second even more disastrous term...

The CEO of what's left of General Motors testifies "That is correct Senator, my company collapsed in spite of the billions the government poured into it. The root causes are easy to trace: massive tax hikes hitting all sizes of business; increasingly strict environmental regulations and MPG limits requiring re-engineering from top to bottom; universal health care costs that tripled in the past 2 years; and unions that now control 100% of my workforce, which they used to extort exhorbenant contracts from the company."

38 posted on 03/03/2009 9:09:54 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: papertyger
Unions TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

I got better...

39 posted on 03/03/2009 9:27:53 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

Are you in right to work state or have you been on the union teat all your life?


40 posted on 03/03/2009 9:29:18 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: guitarplayer1953
Are you in right to work state or have you been on the union teat all your life?

Have you quit beating your wife?

41 posted on 03/03/2009 9:40:14 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

not married do you still wear red diapers?


42 posted on 03/03/2009 9:44:48 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: papertyger
I think the market is reflecting the fact that capital is fleeing equities and going somewhere. T bills, money markets, currency baskets, maybe some gold/silver, yen, real estate (its cheap now), foreign real estate, pennies on the dollar debt obligations, etc. I'm buying ammo and good wine. Cold on Swiss Francs for the moment as they seem to be selling their sovereignty to the USA for tax cheats (wouldn't it be a hoot of Geithner’s name came up!!!)
43 posted on 03/03/2009 9:48:26 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: papertyger
Don't hire liberals. If you have liberals on your payroll, lay them off. At the moment, liberals are not a protected class under state or Federal employment law so you can discriminate against them (but, be careful if the liberals as members of a protected class - then don't).

Also, stop advertising in liberal media. Why give them your money and support their propaganda machines. Don't do business with liberals in your town. If they vote or support Democrats, take your business elsewhere. In short... STARVE THE BEAST. It all you can do at the moment without violence (which I am against).

44 posted on 03/03/2009 9:52:59 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Salena Zito
OBAMA LABOR
45 posted on 03/03/2009 10:48:24 PM PST by odin2008 (EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: Salena Zito

Most unions could give a flying flip about their members. They would rather run a corporation into the dirt and see all of their members lose their jobs after the corporation goes bust, than give an inch. Just keep those mandatory union dues coming. Unions exist to leach off the poor slobs who just want to work and eak out a living.


46 posted on 03/03/2009 10:56:06 PM PST by kamikaze2000
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To: kamikaze2000

The Dow will go down another 500 points!


47 posted on 03/04/2009 12:18:45 AM PST by DISCO
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To: Salena Zito
“We have already started to change America on behalf of working people.”

Yeah, he sure has and not for the better. He gives card check with one hand and destroys industry with the other with cap and trade. It's incredible. How can people be so easily bought off? Don't Union members watch the news?

48 posted on 03/04/2009 1:01:30 AM PST by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Regular Americans, we're on our own now. Push back the hordes!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

**I bet Walmart is the first big target of the Union goons.**

I’ll wager that Walmart has Contingency plans to Immediately and Completely CLOSE SEVERAL STORES in a contiguous AREA, if Union Thugs start .. SNIFFING Around.


49 posted on 03/04/2009 1:08:17 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: April Lexington

**Don’t hire liberals. If you have liberals on your payroll, lay them off.**

And the second round of layoffs was just after the Election. Boss went to parking lot... all cars with NOBAMA stickers were the FIRST to GO.

Amazing how much work you can get done without All that WHINING going on all the time.


50 posted on 03/04/2009 1:16:52 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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