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Russian scholar says US will collapse next year
Breitbart ^ | March 4, 2009 | MIKE ECKEL

Posted on 03/04/2009 11:16:16 AM PST by RobinMasters

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To: durasell
Don't think you know anything about me by implying I do anything but rise and salute our flag. However, if 70% of your countrymen cease to do so, and elect officials whom are hell bent on changing the America you were born in into something that is decidedly and markedly NOT America, do you intend to salute the same flag? Would you have been a "good German"? Note that I am NOT calling you a Nazi, but asking if you would have still saluted the flag of Germany given what the Nazis turned that country into? You might say, "no, I would have fought the regime and helped the Allies", but what if there are NO Allies, and no outside, free country left to liberate you and like-minded individuals? At what point, if any, does it become THEIR flag?

Unhappy, dispiriting points to ponder, but important. Keep also in mind the End Times aspect to not calling yourself a member of a nation that curses Israel (which the administration is close to doing, if they haven't already done so with Hillary's Mideast trip).

41 posted on 03/04/2009 12:38:42 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: RobinMasters

If we went all the way back to shortly after the Russian revolution, and looked at public statements about the U.S., we would probably see the same prediction hundreds of times, if not thousands of times.

Yawn...


42 posted on 03/04/2009 12:51:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Maybe second, don’t forget His Imperial Majesty Norton I, by Grace of God Emperor of these United States and Protector of Mexico.


43 posted on 03/04/2009 1:05:54 PM PST by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

The Nazis made that particular moral quandry easy when they came up with their own flag. :)


44 posted on 03/04/2009 1:13:42 PM PST by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: Unlikely Hero

You’ve found the obvious flaw in my analogy’s visualization. Doesn’t negate the gist of it though! ;-)


45 posted on 03/04/2009 1:19:48 PM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

LOL, it’s still a difficult question—at what point does one stop supporting the government in Nazi Germany, and start resisting, either actively or passively? Not as easy on to answer. :)


46 posted on 03/04/2009 1:21:22 PM PST by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: RobinMasters

at this point....let the ‘Bamsters have the coasts, the union states...and be done with it. Some of us still prefer freedom to serfdom....


47 posted on 03/04/2009 1:36:54 PM PST by mo
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To: ETL

Lowlife communist wannabees.

Putin can go screw Stalin’s remains.


48 posted on 03/04/2009 1:49:46 PM PST by Levante
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To: The_Reader_David
Not quite, the Okies and us Kansans are still pumping and refining oil. Of course, we’d like to end up in the same successor state with you Texans (otherwise what would happen to Big 12 football?).

We'd love to have those two join us. I would welcome NM as well so we can still go snow skiing...tee-hee

49 posted on 03/04/2009 2:17:45 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: MrB
So, are you ready for a rush of immigrants from the north of your border as well?

We'll have to deal with that issue and keep the commies from infultrating ya know. I really wish it would happen now. I've had it with D.C.

50 posted on 03/04/2009 2:20:20 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

You picked an extreme case in history. America is nowhere near where Germany was in the 1930s. Not even close.

I never thought I’d see the day when conservatives promoted something very much like treason and the break-up of the U.S. or gave credibility to some post-Soviet, propagandist hack.


51 posted on 03/04/2009 3:28:05 PM PST by durasell
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To: In God I trust

Seriously, if a split happens, those of the leftist worldview must be kept from polluting the free states of America. We see this happening all over the country - leftists fleeing the cesspools that their ideology created, and bringing those destructive worldviews with them.

There should be an ideological immigration test.

I nominate Thomas Sowell as arbiter of weeding out the dumb masses.


52 posted on 03/05/2009 5:48:57 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: durasell

Keep in mind that to King George, Washington, Jefferson, and the rest of the Framers promoted treason (successfully). You’ve failed to grasp what those Men knew - that no alligiance to an earthly power is binding when that power consists of tyranny. Tell me that those same men - our Founding Fathers - if presented with the country as it stands today (or even last year), would not now be gathering to draft a Declaration.


53 posted on 03/05/2009 8:51:48 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

I don’t believe the framers would be gathered today plotting to overthrow the U.S. government. They had a sense of history. They would probably be more amused and perhaps even proud that their creation functioned and continues to function so well. By their “creation” I include the concept of a nation in which free debate is encouraged.

Franklin, a relative late comer to the Revolution, would probably be blogging like crazy.

All that said, I don’t have an 18th century mind and can’t discern what they would have thought or not thought. I can say, that I’m growing tired of folks using “what they might have thought” as reason for treasonous outpourings against the gubmint they created.


54 posted on 03/05/2009 9:18:42 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

Have you received yet your Obama brownshirt? Forgive me for insulting your Dear Leader, for whom I did not vote, but please refrain from charging me with creating the monstrosity that the US is fast becoming and for whose Glorious Protector, you continue to offer fawning allegience.


55 posted on 03/05/2009 10:10:45 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: durasell

And one more thing, no one is “plotting” a damn thing. Or are you here as a Federal political officer leveling charges for a future show trial?


56 posted on 03/05/2009 10:11:46 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

My loyalty is to my country, which will endure.

I am not a law enforcement officer.


57 posted on 03/05/2009 10:24:45 AM PST by durasell
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