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Newfoundland senator won't back down from separatist talk
Fredericton Daily Gleaner ^ | March 5, 2009 | Alexander Panetta and Joan Bryden

Posted on 03/05/2009 3:58:19 AM PST by Loyalist

OTTAWA - A Liberal senator is threatening to push for a separatist movement in Newfoundland and Labrador if the Harper government continues to discriminate against the province.

Sen. George Baker not only refused to back down Wednesday from separatist musings earlier this week - he turned up the rhetoric.

"I will keep saying it: that if this keeps up then you're going to see a separatist movement in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador - and I'll be encouraging it."

What's more, Baker said if Liberals support another Conservative budget that penalizes Newfoundland, no one will have to kick him out of caucus - he'll quit.

Newfoundlanders are angry at the federal Tories over a budget they say will cost the province more than $1.5 billion in transfers.

Baker said this year's federal budget robs his province of 20 per cent of its revenue, after taking a 15 per cent hit last year.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has echoed much of Baker's criticism of the budget but has nevertheless decided to support it rather than force an election in the midst of an economic crisis.

He gave his six Newfoundland MPs special dispensation to vote against a preliminary motion giving the budget approval in principle. But he has instructed the Liberal-dominated Senate to quickly pass the budget implementation bill, which will land in the upper house Thursday after winning Commons approval in record time.

Still, Baker said he intends to vote against the bill at every stage"

Baker first mused about a rise in separatist sentiment in his province during an interview Monday with VOCM radio in St. John's, N.L.

Officials from Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office handed out transcripts of Baker's remarks to reporters Wednesday.

"I think that you will find that a great many young people will soon be advocating, you know, that we can't remain in the Confederation in which we're discriminated against and not respected," Baker was quoted as saying.

"How much are we going to put up with? You know, this should be reason enough to, to have a Bloc Newfoundland and Labrador running in the next election if this keeps up - and a real campaign to get them all elected."

A spokesman for Harper demanded that Baker be expelled from the Liberal caucus.

"There's no place for someone who holds those views in a party that purports to be in favour of national unity," Kory Teneycke said.

"You can't advocate for the creation of a Bloc Newfoundland, modelled after the separatist Bloc Quebecois, and sit in our caucus. So I don't think that should be the case in the Liberal caucus, either."

The Tories accused Ignatieff of "tolerating" separatists in his party, first by endorsing an agreement to form a coalition propped up by the separatist Bloc Quebecois, and now refusing to punish Baker, a former MP and cabinet minister and one of the longest serving Liberal parliamentarians.

Ignatieff shrugged off Tory calls for Baker's expulsion.

"That's too ridiculous to discuss," he said.

Newfoundland MP Gerry Byrne said Baker's remarks are similar to Harper's call for Alberta to set up a "firewall" to minimize the federal government's presence in the province. Harper made those comments during a hiatus from politics, before becoming Tory leader.

Baker insisted he's not promoting separation for his province, simply predicting that separatist sentiment will rise if the federal government continues to penalize Newfoundland as part of Harper's continuing "vendetta" against Premier Danny Williams.

"Why would our young people today put up with that nonsense from a national government? No. It is Stephen Harper's fault if we end up with a Bloc Newfoundland and Labrador party that will be extremely successful, I predict, if he keeps this up."

TOPICS: Canada; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; georgebaker; newfoundland; separatism
Point one:

Newfoundland has never been economically self-sustaining since joining Confederation in 1949. It's been dependent on equalization payments from the federal government--as has every other province, except Alberta, British Columbia, and Ontario.

Now it's making enough off oil revenues not to need these transfer payments, but the province still wants to suck off the federal teat.

Point two:

Newfoundland was its own independent nation (or to be pedantic, self-governing dominion within the Commonwealth) from 1907 to 1934, when it voluntarily returned to direct rule from Britain during the Depression because of economic collapse.

Point three:

Resentment towards the mainland always scores political points in Newfoundland. Thus the recent spectacle of the Tory premier of Newfoundland actively campaigning against the federal Tory government in the last election.

Point four:

I'se da b'y dat builds da boat

And I'se da b'y dat sails 'er

I'se da b'y dat catches da fish

An' takes 'em home to Lizer.

1 posted on 03/05/2009 3:58:19 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist
Point one:

When Newfoundland joined confederation it did so with a surplus to the tune of 800 million dollars. The terms of union started with a plan that would see Newfoundland bleed this surplus dry in just 10 years. This is why Chesley Crosbie of the delegation sent to Ottawa to sign the terms of union refused to sign that document because he could not in good conscious agree to terms that would send Newfoundland spiraling into never ending deficits.

Point two:

Newfoundland was prior to its terms of Union with Canada an independent nation equal to all other nations in the commonwealth including Britain. Newfoundland did not give up this status under the Commission of Government which was appointed in 1933. The Commission of Government was still the responsible government of Newfoundland as an independent nation. This was not a government of Britain as many often mistake it was.

Point Three:

George Baker is one of the few Newfoundlanders that actually knows the history of this province and the resources that we have handed over to Canada since joining confederation. Newfoundland BY FAR contributes more to the federation then Canada does to Newfoundland when you consider the resources and riches Canada enjoys by having Newfoundland part of this federation.

Point Four

Well I kinda like yours so I'll end it here. Good for Mr. Baker standing up for this province, Mr. Harper dosn’t know what he is starting in that friendly province to the east! For they only stopped “because dead men can advance no further.”

2 posted on 03/05/2009 8:57:04 PM PST by thebignewf
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