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Man who beheaded fellow bus passenger found not guilty
Herald Sun | 7 March 2009 | Michel Comte

Posted on 03/05/2009 8:59:07 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

A CHINESE man who beheaded and hacked a Canadian bus passenger to pieces has been found not guilty of murder on mental grounds.

Vince Weiguang Li, 40, who had been charged with murdering 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Canadian Greyhound bus on July 30, 2008, has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.

Li had repeatedly stabbed Mr McLean, who had been asleep on the seat next to him, sawn off his head, removed his internal organs, pocketed his nose, tongue and an ear, and taunted police and bystanders with the severed head.

Police said in court documents Li "appeared to smell, and then eat parts of Tim McLean's flesh" and "lick blood from his hands" as they surrounded the bus on a desolate highway 90 kilometres west of Winnipeg, in western Canada, soon after the attack.

Authorities found body parts littered throughout the bus, some in white plastic bags.

Mr McLean's eyes and a third of his heart were also missing, and it is presumed Li ate them, said a pathologist in court files, though Li denies this.

The other 35 passengers and the driver were jolted by "blood-curdling screams" and fled, said witnesses, bracing the door after their escape to trap Li inside the bus.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; hungry; notguilty; vinceli; vinceweiguangli
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If he's out, I ain't getting the bus anywhere!!!
1 posted on 03/05/2009 8:59:08 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

How could have anyone on that Bus not have attacked that maniac?


2 posted on 03/05/2009 9:00:50 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Nonsense. Just bring an extra sharp machete with you next time.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 9:01:41 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wha...?! I remember that story here. Does this mean he’ll be released? :-0


4 posted on 03/05/2009 9:01:47 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
paranoid schizophrenia

Should have been executed TWICE.
5 posted on 03/05/2009 9:02:48 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I forgot about that story...so the freak is gonna walk?!


6 posted on 03/05/2009 9:03:49 PM PST by BigSkyVic
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To: Aussie Dasher

“The other 35 passengers and the driver were jolted by “blood-curdling screams” and fled, said witnesses, bracing the door after their escape to trap Li inside the bus.”

From the sounds of things, they were cowardly enough to not rescue this one man who was sitting right next to them but not fearful enough to keep a psychopath away from the general public. What is the meaning of “insane” when everybody is insane?


7 posted on 03/05/2009 9:04:14 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Possibly, at some point … when some overworked doctor wants to get rid of him.


8 posted on 03/05/2009 9:04:58 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama's fault)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Don’t worry. He’ll be put in an institution and released in 5 years or so as “cured”. Seen it all before as a cop. Best deal would be to release him in either the judge’s or psychiatrist’s neighborhood.


9 posted on 03/05/2009 9:05:06 PM PST by pankot
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Extreme cowardice that can only come from a selfish communist culture.


10 posted on 03/05/2009 9:06:24 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Maybe the jury thought that you can’t blame a guy for wanting to get ahead.


11 posted on 03/05/2009 9:07:07 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: pankot

Are they blaming Bush yet??


12 posted on 03/05/2009 9:07:12 PM PST by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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To: BigSkyVic

Killers benefit China’s national interests (i.e disposing of the excess population). They are only interesting in executing innocent people.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 9:07:22 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Canada.


14 posted on 03/05/2009 9:07:46 PM PST by farmer18th (If I weren't so extremely intelligent, people would mistake me for George Clooney)
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To: BigSkyVic
More at this link. As other people here pointed out, he'll be institutionalized, but probably not long enough:

"Li will be institutionalized without a criminal record and reassessed every year by a mental health review board to determine if he is fit for release."

"[The victim] McLean's family says they will fight the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well"

15 posted on 03/05/2009 9:10:47 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I only did general psych. a long time ago and haven’t been much interested in it since. But if I remember correctly, their was no specific “paranoid schizophrenia” diagnosis, although that phrase has long been popular with nattering journalists. It was either “paranoia” or “schizophrenia.” Paranoids are seldom diagnosed due to their scheming nature and fear of being analyzed. Schizophrenics are often diagnosed.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 9:11:40 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

This story seems a bit odd. If the man had no hostage and had already killed his victim then what exactly were the police doing? How was the Chinese man taunting them by doing unspeakable things to the victim?

If the police stood around and let this happen and didn’t pump some lead into this animal then they should all be fired.

My point is that it takes some time to carve a man up and do those kind of sick things and they just stood and watched. I can promise you he would not have taunted me with the mans head or anything else. I would have put a bullet in his brain pan and be done with him.


17 posted on 03/05/2009 9:12:22 PM PST by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Call me a coward if you want but unless I had a firearm or a comabt knife I probably wouldn’t have gone up against him either. Psychotics tend to be able to switch the rage against one person as easily as the original victim. And judging by the fact that he was armed I doubt I would have done anymore than just been another added casualty.

The only way I can see myself going against someone like that unarmed is if they were attacking a child. I might go down but it would give the kid a way to escape.


18 posted on 03/05/2009 9:12:45 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Should have been executed TWICE

Several times even.

19 posted on 03/05/2009 9:12:56 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Har-har

I still think they should have a category for guilty and insane...
A 'not-guilty' verdict when someone obviously committed the crime is just ... crazy...

20 posted on 03/05/2009 9:15:12 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Soothesayer

This happened in Canada, it is a Canadian court that is judging him not guilty by reason of insanity, not China.


21 posted on 03/05/2009 9:16:21 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

That’s even scarier. Let’s hope the world ends soon.


22 posted on 03/05/2009 9:17:15 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer

>Extreme cowardice that can only come from a selfish communist culture.

Or DC... but I’m repeating you.


23 posted on 03/05/2009 9:20:47 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Soothesayer

“Killers benefit China’s national interests (i.e disposing of the excess population). They are only interesting in executing innocent people”

That is true....think about Tiamin (sp) Square...that guy standing in from of the tank....


24 posted on 03/05/2009 9:20:49 PM PST by BigSkyVic
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To: Soothesayer

It was a weird story. Thread after thread here began following it last summer as soon as it broke. I remember a video interview of the passengers. They were caught by surprise. A guy sitting nearby claimed he didn’t even realize what was happening at first and that he either made an attempt to stop the killer, or considered it, but by then the victim was gone, I think. So, people started running out of the bus. Then he and a few other passengers blocked the door so the killer couldn’t leave the bus.


25 posted on 03/05/2009 9:23:27 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Revolting cat!

He must have been REAAAAL good lookin’


26 posted on 03/05/2009 9:23:32 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: WildcatClan
I agree with that.

Now instead they are just giving him an opportunity to do it again some day.

27 posted on 03/05/2009 9:25:35 PM PST by DB
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To: Tired of Taxes

“More at this link. As other people here pointed out, he’ll be institutionalized, but probably not long enough: “

To me, that is an affront to common decency..what about the surviving family that has to deal with their loss? The mentally unfit diagnosis is a copout is many cases...JMHO


28 posted on 03/05/2009 9:28:51 PM PST by BigSkyVic
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To: BigSkyVic

I agree 100%.


29 posted on 03/05/2009 9:29:48 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Vince Weiguang Li is obviously enduring terrible suffering.

The state should euthanize him and end the pain.


30 posted on 03/05/2009 9:30:50 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Aussie Dasher

It is effectively illegal to carry concealed handguns in Canada. There is a permit that allows people to carry if they can prove they need to protect their lives but the permit is very rarely issued. [wiki]


31 posted on 03/05/2009 9:31:22 PM PST by Kent C
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To: martin_fierro; aculeus; dighton; Slings and Arrows; null and void; cripplecreek
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, who had been charged with murdering 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Canadian Greyhound bus

Study that name for possible clues.

32 posted on 03/05/2009 9:34:22 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

it’s hard to forget any story you read here on FR :)


33 posted on 03/05/2009 9:37:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Ezekiel

Uighur?


34 posted on 03/05/2009 9:38:24 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 43 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I wonder what sort of history this murderer has? I doubt he was a reasonably normal person who just one day carried out this vicious murder as his first abnormal act.


35 posted on 03/05/2009 9:42:22 PM PST by Will88
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Go Greyhound...and leave the driving to us".

...your personal safety is your problem!

36 posted on 03/05/2009 9:43:41 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: familyop

Thanks for the diagnosis. Maybe they didn’t cover it in the 101 class you slept through.

http://counsellingresource.com/distress/schizophrenia/icd/paranoid.html


37 posted on 03/05/2009 9:59:12 PM PST by stormer
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To: calex59

Reason #2,454,627 to stay the hell away from Canada!


38 posted on 03/05/2009 10:09:05 PM PST by Deo volente (Freedom went out not with a bang, but with a "stimulus".)
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To: Aussie Dasher

This guy puts Hannibal Lector to shame!


39 posted on 03/05/2009 10:25:18 PM PST by Merlinator (January 20. 2009, A National Day of Mourning)
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To: stormer
It would have been easy enough to sleep through, but I didn't sleep through it. It was decades ago, though. :-)

...did a quick search and read. I probably confused in my forgetfulness, the caution against confusing paranoid personality disorder with paranoid schizophrenia.


40 posted on 03/05/2009 10:27:39 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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To: stormer
"Thanks for the diagnosis."

And I didn't issue any "diagnosis." We'll leave that to the professional kooks on boards and to their client friends using the Net for babble. :-)


41 posted on 03/05/2009 10:32:51 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop
And I didn't mean to sound so nasty. Sorry.

I, like virtually every other freshman at my university, took Psych 101. We all had to participate in a certain number of experimental hours, and if you were signed up and missed yours, there was trouble. Of course I learned this the hard way. I was directed into a little room with a table and an apparatus with lights and buttons on it, and to make a long story short, spent the next 90 minutes trading electrical shocks with another malingerer. It was pretty intense, and I can't imagine it happening today. Anyway, I stuck to “hard science” after that.

42 posted on 03/05/2009 10:35:28 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

That’s alright, and thanks.

LOL! That kind of “shock therapy” (not to be confused with the kind that’s actually been applied) would be an effective behavioral/rational aid for directing students toward productive studies. And although economic conditions are getting rough, hard sciences will be in huge demand in the near future, IMO. As imports drop off due to mounting debts, we’ll certainly need people who are capable of designing and making truly useful things. :-)

I’m playing with a cheap CAD package now by learning to design a house with it (QCAD Pro). ...drawing a few missing blocks and symbols for that as per codes. AutoCAD is a little too expensive for the self-builder or hobbyist, and I’m using UNIX-like systems anyway (NetBSD and Linux—helping with testing, learning software development, etc., for NetBSD).

...also analyzing some thermal energy stuff (homemade heat collector, storage and radiation systems) to see if they’re doable with the IRC and other codes.


43 posted on 03/05/2009 10:48:39 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: WildcatClan; SunkenCiv; null and void

Absolutely, the bastard should not have lived long enough to see a judge. Real justice should have been meted out by the witnesses. I daresay they would suffer less lingering effects if they had been proactive in taking him out, rather than allow him to live to taunt them with this desecration. People! We have a responsibility as human beings to STOP this behavior ourselves.... not to WAIT for police.

If the existance of police forces results in the emasculation of free citizens and good people, then fire the police. We’re not worthy of protection and justice, and they are not capable of providing such. It is a delusion. Madness reigns.

Good God! How can any of these “witnesses” ever face this victim’s family? He was a 23 year old young man. This story is layered in wrong upon wrong.


44 posted on 03/05/2009 10:53:36 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: familyop
Well, my science isn't exactly particle physics. I'm an ecologist and do resource management. Getting ready to take some students on their first real field trip - chasing down some of these bad boys.

It always fun to see who the bed-wetters are...

45 posted on 03/05/2009 11:09:35 PM PST by stormer
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To: Aussie Dasher

In future don’t wait for justic


46 posted on 03/05/2009 11:24:27 PM PST by restornu (The Word The Word of God is infallible, but that doesnÂ’t automatically make the scribes infallible)
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To: stormer

There are a lot of large black bears and mountain lions around my place. The bears only become social and dangerous to tidier people (no garbage) as they overpopulate and their territories overlap (happening now). They’re becoming overly curious, but we haven’t needed to use any of the Brenneke slugs for bear, yet. The cougars tend to be very reclusive and are only rarely dangerous to those who walk in the dark without looking behind them (big, stalking cats see that). They have killed a pet or two, and some livestock once in a great while. ...only know the presence of the big cats through an occasional road sighting in headlights and very often now through seeing their tracks (no nail prints, numbers of toes,...) and other signs.

As for livestock, well, we do protect livestock when necessary. ...not very often in this remote area so far (on the Rockies). Only the elk herds are getting hit much by lions and wolves (elk hoof here and an elk hoof there, as each herd passes back and forth).

We’ll trade all of our mountain lions for those African lions. [Little ironic humor there.] African lions would be easier to keep an eye on and increase revenues from tourism. ;-)


47 posted on 03/05/2009 11:39:26 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: El Cid

I agree. It should be involuntary manslaughter at the least.
Involuntary cause he’s certifiably schizophrenic. But there
are lots of schizophrenics who don’t kill, so there’s got
to be a category for that (criminally insane might be the
one but there has to be a cost). How can a society allow an
innocent man to be butchered, and let the perp go? No matter
what the reason.


48 posted on 03/06/2009 12:37:57 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Fine, he is not guilty because he is criminaly insane. So put him in a mental ward and execute him with electroshock therapy because he is criminaly insane.


49 posted on 03/06/2009 1:18:40 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
How could have anyone on that Bus not have attacked that maniac?

Socialized pacifism.

50 posted on 03/06/2009 1:29:37 AM PST by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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