Skip to comments.The Groundwork Has Already Been Laid for Martial Law
Posted on 03/06/2009 11:36:39 AM PST by Lucky9teen
During his two terms in office, George W. Bush stepped outside the boundaries of the Constitution and assembled an amazing toolbox of powers that greatly increased the authority of the Executive branch and the reach of the federal government.
Bush expanded presidential power to, among other things, allow government agents to secretly open the private mail of American citizens; authorize government agents to secretly, and illegally, listen in on the phone calls of American citizens and read our e-mails; assume control of the federal government following a "catastrophic event"; and declare martial law.
Thus, the groundwork was laid for an imperial presidency and a potentially totalitarian government--a state of affairs that has not ended with Barack Obama's ascension to the Oval Office, despite hopes to the contrary that President Obama would fully restore the balance between government and its citizens to a pre-Bush status quo. As Charlie Savage reports in the New York Times, "Signs suggest that the administration's changes may turn out to be less sweeping than many had hoped or feared--prompting growing worry among civil liberties groups and a sense of vindication among supporters of Bush-era policies."
The fact is that the problem is bigger than Obama or any individual who occupies the White House. Indeed, once the government assumes expansive powers and crosses certain constitutional lines, it's almost impossible to pull back.
Just consider some of the lines that have already been crossed.
The local police have, in many regards, already evolved into de facto extensions of the military. Dressed like Darth Vader look-alikes, the police have opted for the SWAT-team dress formally adopted by the federal agencies. Congressional legislation allows the U.S. military, by way of the Pentagon, to train civilian police. The Pentagon has also provided local police with military equipment such as M-16 rifles, bayonets, boats, vehicles, surveillance equipment, chemical suits and flak jackets, among other items. Thus, they are armed to the teeth.
We already have a federal police force comprised of Secret Service agents who are authorized to "carry firearms; make arrests without a warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence." A recent incident demonstrates the increased and immediate involvement of federal agents in local matters with the assistance of local police. Chip Harrison, a construction worker in Oklahoma, was pulled over by local police because of an anti-Obama sign proclaiming "Abort Obama, not the unborn" in his pickup truck window. The sign was confiscated by local police, and Harrison was informed that the sign could be considered a threat to the president. The local police contacted the Secret Service, who, within a matter of hours, came to Harrison's home and investigated the matter. So much for the freedom of expression.
According to the Army Times, we now have at least 20,000 U.S. military troops deployed within our borders to "help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack." I am not alone in believing that we are just one incident--be it a terrorist attack, a major financial blowout or a widespread natural disaster--away from martial law being declared in this country. And once that happens, the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be suspended and what government officials believe and do, no matter how arbitrary, will become law.
Our methods of communication are already being monitored--and, in some instances, shut down, abetted by the telecommunications giants, which act as extensions of the government. Thus, not only does the government have the ability to open and read our mail, it can also listen in on our phone calls and jam our cell phone calls. As the Washington Post reports, federal authorities already have the ability to jam cell phones and other wireless devices. Unbeknownst to the nearly two million people who attended the Obama Inauguration festivities, federal authorities jammed cell phone signals at specific locations. Such disruptions simply appear to be a dropped call or lost signal. Of course, such jamming could be conducted on a more extensive basis nationwide. This would prevent citizens from being able to communicate with one another or make appeals to their government representatives. Although jamming is technically illegal for state and local agencies, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) plans to introduce legislation to allow local police to "selectively" jam cell phones.
We already live in a surveillance state. There was a time when people could flee when the government got out of control. Now, with our every movement monitored by cameras on sidewalks, streets, ATMs, and in shops, offices, schools and parks, there truly is nowhere to hide. Moreover, equipped with high-powered satellites and massive databases, the government can track us using our cell phones, cars, credit cards, driver's licenses and passports.
For those who have been paying attention, such as former war correspondent Chris Hedges in his Truthdig article, "Bad News From America's Top Spy," it's clear that the groundwork for a seamless transition into martial law under a totalitarian state of government has been laid. And local law enforcement, which has already been serving as a de facto military force, will be the key to maintaining martial law under a police state. Given the interconnectedness of our federal, state and local agencies, you can be sure that all of this will happen quickly.
All that is needed is another threat to national security--a so-called "catastrophic event." Under the Bush administration, the danger was terrorism. Under the Obama administration, the economy is being posed as the greatest threat to national security.
This danger was made clear in a U.S. Army War College report issued last fall. As Hedges reports, "The military must be prepared, the document warned, for a 'violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,' which could be provoked by 'unforeseen economic collapse,' 'purposeful domestic resistance,' 'pervasive public health emergencies' or 'loss of functioning political and legal order.' The 'widespread civil violence,' the document said, 'would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.'"
What does all this mean for you and me, the average citizen? When and if martial law is declared, freedom, as we have known it, will be obsolete. And don't expect much in the way of warning or help from the corporate media. As the war in Iraq showed, they are all too willing to be co-opted by the military for the sake of access and ratings. And there will be many Americans who won't know what's happening. They'll be too busy watching the latest entertainment spectacle and trying to guess the next American Idol.
Thankfully, we have not yet reached the point of no hope. But it must be acknowledged that the average American simply does not have the ability to withstand a totalitarian government.
Right now, all we can do is sound the alarm. Become educated. Form local citizens groups in your community. Educate your neighbors on their rights and inform them about the grave possibilities we face in the event of a government-declared emergency. Keep in almost near-constant contact with your representatives in Congress and voice your discontent. Most of all, stay informed and exercise your right to redress your grievances with the government while you still can.
As abolitionist Wendell Phillips once proclaimed:
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty--power is ever stealing from the many to the few.... The hand entrusted with power becomes ... the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
There can be no “oversight” of the democrat in office in our one-party system. We can oversight all we want, but there is nothing to stop him. After all, is his Democrat House and Senate going to move impeachment articles and impeach him?
Doubtful, but the people might.
Obama would not have been able to pass the Patriot Act. It’s on the books now, though.
Seems that they should have learned something from Iraq. Way too many people in this country are armed (thank God). There are not enough active military between us and our allies around the world to hold our population down by force.
Any collateral damage would only make it worse for them... It aint going to happen.
I fear that is the only way.
Fortunately me, and many like me, have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic”.
I should hope that if the SHTF that we’ll turn our guns on the oppressors and stand for the Constitution and against tyranny.
Though that would be some scenario, where the military guns down the police who are trying to enforce a ‘police state’.
“According to the Army Times, we now have at least 20,000 U.S. military troops deployed within our borders to “help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.” I am not alone in believing that we are just one incident—be it a terrorist attack, a major financial blowout or a widespread natural disaster—away from martial law being declared in this country. And once that happens, the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be suspended and what government officials believe and do, no matter how arbitrary, will become law.”
20K currently deployed? Hunh? I call bravo sierra. NorthCom does have the homeland security and homeland protection missions, but I’ll be very surprised if there are that many currently deployed. Sounds like an intentional scare attempt.
U.S. Army To Buy $6 Million Of Riot Equipment (Obama plans to crush citizen protests this summer)
I would think, hope most police rank are on our side too.
Right on the money, although Bush would not have ordered martial law in order to impose his will and agenda on the American people. Hussein will. And one of the comments says it all. The 2nd amendment is our only defense. For no matter the arms and intentions of Husseins brownshirts, there are not enough of them to get the job done. Not if actual Americans will stand up for their rights.
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=117&a=1431 "Sec. 1042 of the Act, "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," effectively overturns what is known as posse comitatus."
>I would think, hope most police rank are on our side too.
Worst case: Police and Military are both, as organizations, split down the middle +/-15%.
If things get to the Civil Way point, that might happen.
Truthfully, every US president since Eisenhower has at some point officially planned for martial law, often reinventing the martial law preparations of their predecessors. Most of this involved executive orders that provided that “somebody could do something if they have to.”
Importantly, just about any “command” government official down to city mayors can declare “martial law” in their area of responsibility. This can create confusion when there is overlapping authority, which was evident during Katrina.
The mayor declared a “state of emergency”, which is the Louisiana equivalent of martial law, since they have no reference to the term “martial law” in their state law. This declared that officers didn’t have to observe civil rights or issue the Miranda warning to looters. Even stranger, Louisiana still has elements of Napoleonic law in its laws, and state organization, that just made things more confusing.
This was made problematic by the weak response of the governor, and the federal authorities, which could have superseded the mayor’s directive if they had been told to, but weren’t.
The end result was confusion at several levels, with the police and Sheriff’s deputies of several jurisdictions, state authorities and national guardsmen, who may not have even known if they were still under state authority or had been federalized, and federal authorities that were non-military, like FEMA.
In other words, a cluster.
But it does highlight two very important things. First, that preparing for martial law type emergencies is less important that good execution of whatever plan. And second, that for all the bragging about resisting martial law, when push comes to shove, very few people will stand and fight against it.
I think 20,000 is the goal. They are to be in the Atlanta area(if I remember correctly). The units area to be, in theory,any where in the U.S. as needed in a few hours.
GI’s and republicans throw out corrupt dems by force of arms.
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“The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes.” — Thomas Paine
“These are the times that try men’s souls... Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered;
— Thomas Paine, The Crisis, December 23rd, 1776
“If we become a people who are willing to give up our money and our freedom in exchange for rhetoric and promises, then nothing can save us.” — Thomas Sowell
The “army” provided “civilians” with tanks at Mt. Carmel and most on here cheered them on. We make look back, if we’re lucky, and see Timothy McVeigh as the first casualty of the next revolution.
As for those who don’t think American soldiers and local police will fire upon citizens, it already happened in the late 1700’s and again in 1861.
The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment. ~Robert M. Hutchins, Great Books, 1954
Any citizen at any time for any reason? Or is Whitehead overstating the case here?
Any citizen at any time for any reason? Or is Whitehead overstating the case here?
In today’s government, you have to ask?
This phrase is on the agent's credentials which show the scope of his authority. It would be a little tough to catch bad guys if a federal agent witnesses a crime and had to run off to the judge to get a warrant.
I don't remember too much complaining when a Secret Service agent, off duty, took on some gang bangers at the Annapolis Mall. He didn't have a warrant, didn't need one; and it wasn't a federal crime, most states allow feds to act when witness to a felony.
None of this was the doing of G.W. Bush. They were authorities that have been granted to feds for years.
The source article for that thread was horrifically incorrect. The bid went to businesses smaller than a $6 million criteria. The actual bid was for 55 sets of riot gear granted for $20K. 55 sets of riot gear going to Leavenworth, a U.S. military’s prison is not a deep dark conspiracy to rob you of your constitutional rights. It is a deep dark conspiracy for the staff to protect themselves from felony level prisoners that want to stick guards with a shank.
Wow. Nice story!
I never even heard of it before; thank you for the reference.
Ditto’s on the oath all the way.
All we can do now is get with our group of trusteds and stand by.
If we go martial law all bets are off.
Oath bound folks like me have to get in a group of trusted folks and stand by.
Martial law will set it all off and it’s too late to see whos who then.
And that would make me a vigilante.
Here’s the latest rumor about the FEMA camps.
They are for ragheads when we get hit again cause theyu know they won’t be able to protect them again.
Yep. A little thingy called the CLEA act
Ding! Good one!
Speaking of FEMA camps, Glenn Beck is doing everything he can to either debunk or prove that they are real and a threat. All he has been able to find is that there are military bases with setup for camps per se, but nothing like what is rumored (prison, concentration, etc).
He even talked to Ron Paul Monday about it, and Ron said he didn’t know of anything going on with them either, however he did mention with FEMA they have the ability to set up shop rather quickly, so if it came to it, they could do something along those lines (and unexpectedly) rather quickly.
The photo’s Ive seen are just fenced off land mass. Although the gov could fill them fast enough if they had a mind to.
I was asking about Bush's government, not O's, since that was the context of the original remark. Did the Bush admin exercise police state powers indiscriminately, or were his rules narrowly focused on citizens actually suspected of collusion with terrorists?
Of course, no matter how judiciously Bush exercised said powers, it opened up a Pandora's Box of precedents for the current regime.
This is what the order was for. Really frightening.
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Prophetic quotes from Thomas Jefferson
Posted on 03/07/2009 9:45:51 AM PST by Rennes Templar
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!! I thought it strange that during the evil Bush administration I had to have 3 crowns on my teeth even though I brushed and flossed every day..........those messages in my head are obviously thought transmissions due to the transponder receptors which were incapsulated in the crowns.
Unfortunately I can't afford to have those crowns replaced so I am forced to have to deal with this madness..............Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Exactly. I don’t think Bush had the same ideas in mind that Barack has, in that the orders he signed were to protect the country, not destroy it, as Obama is doing so swiftly.
Still, as much as I loved Bush and supported him (100% about 80% of the time) he did bring in BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG SPENDING.
Now what do we do with that open box?
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