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Judge Dismisses case brought by retired military officer
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 3/7/09 | Unruth

Posted on 03/07/2009 6:06:22 AM PST by FreeManN

From Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: "President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961." From U.S. Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla.: "The claim that Barack Obama is not a citizen of the U.S. is false. This rumor is simply election year politics." She referred questioners to Snopes for documentation. From U.S. Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, R-Mich.: "Rest assured, however, I will well remember your concerns regarding this issue during the 111th Congress." From Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas: "I welcome President-elect Obama's commitment to reform the federal budget process and rein in wasteful government spending. From U.S. Rep. Kay Granger, R-Texas: "Now that the election is over and the campaigns have ended, I think it is important that the politicians and the citizens of our nation put the fierce partisan rhetoric aside so that we can work together to come up with real solutions to our country's challenges."

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"From Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: "President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

From U.S. Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla.: "The claim that Barack Obama is not a citizen of the U.S. is false. This rumor is simply election year politics."

With rinos like Saxby Chambliss & Ginny Brown-Waite supporting him bo doesn't need demos.

1 posted on 03/07/2009 6:06:22 AM PST by FreeManN
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To: FreeManN
how convenient ‘snopes’ is run by a bunch of lefty's
2 posted on 03/07/2009 6:07:47 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: FreeManN

Lies and cover-ups. Only 45 days in and we already have more scandals/liars than we can count.


3 posted on 03/07/2009 6:10:55 AM PST by madison10
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To: FreeManN

“I think it is important that the politicians and the citizens of our nation put the fierce partisan rhetoric aside so that we can work together to come up with real solutions to our country’s challenges.”
* * * *

I agree.

Let’s start by impeaching the POTUS and The Speaker of the House.


4 posted on 03/07/2009 6:11:17 AM PST by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: FreeManN
From Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: "President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961

NO, he did NOT.
5 posted on 03/07/2009 6:12:06 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: FreeManN

But the MUCH SIMPLER question is:

Why doesn’t he just authorize the State of Hawaii to produce an authenticated copy?

And if he won’t then, a SIMPLE QUESTION to ask is:

Why not?


6 posted on 03/07/2009 6:12:34 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: FreeManN

Ask the judge why Hawaii has two forms, a “certificate” and a “certification” of live birth, why they are different, and under what circumstances Hawaii doesn’t accept the latter.


7 posted on 03/07/2009 6:13:31 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: FreeManN

More traitors jump on board the 0bama Express Train to Hell.

And that is exactly where they’ll end up, on their knees servicing ‘The One’ for all eternity.

I won’t shed one tear for any of ‘em.


8 posted on 03/07/2009 6:13:56 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: FreeManN

Circulated his birth certificate to who? factcheck.org?

Has Saxby Chambliss actually seen a copy with his own two eyes?


9 posted on 03/07/2009 6:13:59 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: F15Eagle

I think this defense may come in handy April 15th, I’ll just circulate documents that show that I have paid my Taxes.

TT


10 posted on 03/07/2009 6:20:04 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: F15Eagle

saxby gives me a headache.


11 posted on 03/07/2009 6:20:38 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: mkjessup
More traitors jump on board the 0bama Express Train to Hell HEIL.

That's Closer to true.

12 posted on 03/07/2009 6:21:03 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: FreeManN
Barack Hussein Obama is an abkect marxist ideolog with very disturbing Islamic ties, who lies about his upbringing constantly, and is absoultely not forthcoming about his birth.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

13 posted on 03/07/2009 6:22:42 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: FreeManN

14 posted on 03/07/2009 6:24:25 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: Eye of Unk

Ve Vill call it ... Der Fairness Doktrine!


15 posted on 03/07/2009 6:27:23 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat; pnh102; rxsid; seekthetruth; hoosiermama; Red Steel; True Republican Patriot; ...

At first I thought that the Fraudulent Election of bo would ruin the demo party, but thanks to rinos like Kyl & Chambliss bo’s election has ruined the Republican Party.

It is time to vote for Independent candidates, independent of bo, that is.

If a candidate calls for bo’s impeachment, I will vote for him or her, whether said candidate is a Democrat, a Real Republican or an Independent.

If a Politician is for bo then they will get nothing but opposition from me.

The little initials beside their names (R or D) mean nothing anymore.


16 posted on 03/07/2009 6:28:55 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

When this thing is all over and the episode is studied in the history books, a great many people will have egg on their faces. That includes those who dismiss the idea that this man is not a natural born citizen. The founders of the country had a reason why they made it a requirement that the President of the country be a natural born citizen-for he would put the best interest of the country at hand.

There’s no question in my mind that Obama is purposely tanking the US economy and bringing the United States to it’s knees. I don’t know who the guy is working for or what his true intentions are, but any nine year old numbskull can see what’s happening.

Get your gold coins and long guns people. You’ll need them to defend yourself and live in what’s soon to be the former United States of America.


17 posted on 03/07/2009 6:31:53 AM PST by NoobRep
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To: gwilhelm56

Good point.


18 posted on 03/07/2009 6:32:19 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: coloradan

It is because, and I just found this out recently, that back then, since Hawaii was a new state and they wanted all the citizenship they could get, a “Certificate of Live Birth” was given to anyone who asked for it. No questions asked.


19 posted on 03/07/2009 6:32:36 AM PST by Two Thirds Vote Aye (Elections Have Consequences.)
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To: mkjessup

OR::

Ve Vill Kall it ... HOPE Und CHANGE!


20 posted on 03/07/2009 6:35:38 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: NoobRep

bo is an Islamo-Marxist who wants Islamic (Muslim) World Domination just like his Father, his Grandfather and his cousin Odinga in Kenya.

Google Odinga and you will see who the real bo is.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77508


21 posted on 03/07/2009 6:36:19 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN
So much for transparency
Rather than provide a certified copy of his birth certificate to anyone who requests a copy in a court of law, Mr Obama sends a lawyer to have the case dismissed.
The Constitution requires the president be a natural born citizen. Why hasn't ours provided a copy of the proof to the courts... rather than a website?
I'm certain the Left would understand the issue more clearly if Obama's party affiliation was an R rather than a D.
22 posted on 03/07/2009 6:40:38 AM PST by The Brush
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To: FreeManN

And they say you can’t have a cover-up in America ... Oh yes you can.


23 posted on 03/07/2009 6:44:14 AM PST by devere
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To: FreeManN
Stuart Taylor Jr. where are you when we need you?

In November 1996 an article appeared in a trade publication called the American Lawyer written by a reporter known to be a respected scholar on legal subjects and known not to be a conservative. Mainstream media reporters knew him personally and regarded him to be one of their own. They misjudged their man because Stuart Taylor Jr. was intellectually honest. He took a look at a lawsuit which had been either ignored or denigrated as bogus by his brethren in the popular media and concluded that there were genuine questions of fact and law at stake and that the case demanded respectful and legitimate public inquiry.

The case was Paula Jones vs. William Jefferson Clinton and so genuine was the case and so worthy of legitimate public inquiry was it, that it led directly to the impeachment of the president of the United States of America.

When Stuart Taylor Jr. wrote his article in the American lawyer, Bill and Hillary Clinton, working out of their war room, had, through intimidation, slander, and the cooperation of a complaisant media, virtually ignored and belittled Paula Jones to death.

Stuart Taylor Jr. stood up and said, in effect, "the emperor has no clothes." We need a breach in the house of cards. We need an honest and prominent reporter or politician to say what is obvious: the refusal to produce the original vault birth certificate is evidence of subterfuge. We need someone to say that the refusal to disclose original documents is potentially equivalent to the following:

The refusal to produce the Nixon audiotapes

the refusal to produce the blue dress

the willingness to produce the "pumpkin papers"

the production of the Zimmerman telegram


24 posted on 03/07/2009 6:44:44 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: FreeManN

I think there are probably people in the CIA, FBI and military that know the true story of this imposter. Yet, they would rather have the economy tank than to have had a race war started from ejecting the man from the Presidential race. Why do you think the state of Hawaii sealed his birth certificate?


25 posted on 03/07/2009 6:45:43 AM PST by NoobRep
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To: autumnraine
Imagine a scenario where you're pulled over for a traffic violation and claim that you have a Hawaii drivers licence but not with you...
In court you provide the judge with a website address that will provide a copy of a form that states you have driven a car in the past.
Case dismissed?

Many people would argue that this scenario is entirely different.

26 posted on 03/07/2009 6:46:07 AM PST by The Brush
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To: The Brush

I say another example is that I go into the DMV and say my name is Dolly Parton. I demand that I get a drivers license with that name on it and the burden is on them to prove I am NOT Dolly Parton.

Same thing.


27 posted on 03/07/2009 6:47:23 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: The Brush

“I’m certain the Left would understand the issue more clearly if Obama’s party affiliation was an R rather than a D.”

You fall for the trap that bo laid for ideologues.

After reading what Chambliss & Kyl and the rest of the dumb rinos said about supporting bo, I am amazed that you still don’t get it!

The party affliation means NOTHING! The rinos are worse than the demos!


28 posted on 03/07/2009 6:50:24 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

Jeez, it’s been up an hour and no trolls yet.


29 posted on 03/07/2009 6:53:37 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Two Thirds Vote Aye

Thank you!


30 posted on 03/07/2009 6:58:41 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: JohnnyP

All bo victories have been pyrrhric. That is why they can no longer wage an effective battle against We the Patriots. We outnumber them by millions. Unfortunately, we have been slow to realize how superior our forces are to bo’s motley gang of thugs. Even now, dumb rinos like Chamliss & Kyl still don’t get it.

The phrase is named after King Pyrrhus of Epirus, whose army suffered irreplaceable casualties in defeating the Romans at Heraclea in 280 BC and Asculum in 279 BC during the Pyrrhic War. After the latter battle, Plutarch relates in a report by Dionysius:

The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war.[1]

In both of Pyrrhus’s victories, the Romans lost more men than Pyrrhus did. However, the Romans had a much larger supply of men from which to draw soldiers, so their losses did less damage to their war effort than Pyrrhus’s losses did to his.

The report is often quoted as “Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone,”[citation needed] or “If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined.”[2]

Although it is most closely associated with a military battle, the term is used by analogy in fields such as business, politics, law, literature, and sports to describe any similar struggle which is ruinous for the victor. For example, the theologian, Reinhold Niebuhr writing of the need for coercion in the cause of justice warned that: “Moral reason must learn how to make a coercion its ally without running the risk of a Pyrrhic victory in which the ally exploits and negates the triumph” [3]


31 posted on 03/07/2009 7:00:53 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN; The Brush
“I’m certain the Left would understand the issue more clearly if Obama’s party affiliation was an R rather than a D.”

Actually, I agree with the posters point.

The only difference is that we Conservatives would be upholding the law rather that allow a usurper in office for idealogical reasons....most of us tend to uphold the Constitution above all else whether it be an R or a D.

32 posted on 03/07/2009 7:02:35 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: FreeManN
Why not post the article? I do not think we have excerpt WND. The excerpt posted has little to do with the title.


A federal judge has thrown out a lawsuit questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president, because the issue already has been "blogged, texted, twittered and otherwise massaged."

The judge ruled in a case brought by Gregory Hollister against "Barry Soetoro, et al," alleging a need to know Obama's legitimacy, because as a retired member of the military he could be recalled to active duty and, therefore, would have to know whether Obama's orders were legitimate.

Hollister is represented by Philadelphia lawyer Philip Berg, who has brought several motions on the eligibility dispute to the U.S. Supreme Court, only to have the evidence he wanted to present ignored.

In his ruling, Judge James Robertson said, "The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his Commander-in-Chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel's satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.

"The issue of the president's citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America's vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama's two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court," Robertson wrote.

That is not going to happen, he ruled.

"Even in its relatively short life the case has excited the blogosphere and the conspiracy theorists. The right thing to do is to bring it to an early end," Robertson wrote.

But is Obama actually constitutionally qualified? It's been "twittered," Robertson said, while also requiring the plaintiffs attorneys to explain why they shouldn't be penalized financially for having raised the legal question. "Twitter" is a brand name for an Internet technology that allows participants to post brief reports on their daily activities and observations.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!

The court's deflection of attention from the central issue of producing verification of Obama's citizenship mirrors the response many Congress members have given concerned constituents.

33 posted on 03/07/2009 7:09:22 AM PST by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“The only difference is that we Conservatives would be upholding the law rather that allow a usurper in office for idealogical reasons....most of us tend to uphold the Constitution above all else whether it be an R or a D.”

Exactly, if bo was a Republican, the rinos like Chambliss and Kyl would support him without question like they support Bobby Jindal and Swartzeneeger and they supported juan mccain.


34 posted on 03/07/2009 7:09:44 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

“I relayed your concerns about the henhouse being broken into to a Mr. Fox, who answered the phone at the henhouse. He assured me that your fears are goundless, and that everything is fine”.....


35 posted on 03/07/2009 7:11:45 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again---and J. Edgar, too)
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To: FreeManN
Exactly, if bo was a Republican, the rinos like Chambliss and Kyl

Yep, that's why I was careful to post "us Conservatives"

36 posted on 03/07/2009 7:17:00 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: NoobRep

“I think there are probably people in the CIA, FBI and military that know the true story of this imposter. Yet, they would rather have the economy tank than to have had a race war started from ejecting the man from the Presidential race. Why do you think the state of Hawaii sealed his birth certificate?”

COWARDS!

bo and his motley gang of thugs can NOT wage a war. Who will command their “forces” comrade billie “the boy revolutionary” Ayers? ROFLMAO!


37 posted on 03/07/2009 7:19:27 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: Eye of Unk

Hitler wasn’t a natural born German — he was Austrian. But,although he saw Germany as the tool for his vision, he was a Germano-phile. BHO may or may not be a natural-born American. But — the jury’s out on whether he loves America, or sees it only as a tool for his vision.


38 posted on 03/07/2009 7:21:16 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: FreeManN

Finally someone else is beginning to see the dots lining up to form a perfect line! Thank you.


39 posted on 03/07/2009 7:22:59 AM PST by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

BO in NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

Read the CONSTITUTION!


40 posted on 03/07/2009 7:23:08 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN
BO in NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

I don't think he is, either. It was a "for sake of argument" post.

There's two avenues of argument about his status, but which one governs depends on where he was actually born. The more subtle one is that Anne Dunham hadn't been around long enough to confer citizenship maternally. The obvious one is that he was born somewhere else, and/or that his primary citizenships were British and then Indonesian.

41 posted on 03/07/2009 7:26:29 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: FreeManN
Obama could easily put this story to rest by releasing his original birth certificate, as any candidate for POTUS should do since citizenship is a requirement.
42 posted on 03/07/2009 7:27:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Just A Nobody

“Finally someone else is beginning to see the dots lining up to form a perfect line!”

Remember the Rhetorical Question, “What if they had a “war” and nobody came?”

That Rhetorical Question would be answered quickly if bo and billie boy ayers tried to start a civil “war” in the USA. Their “army” would remain hidden in da’ hood. bo’s motley gang of thugs would be massacred in less than a day.


43 posted on 03/07/2009 7:34:25 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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To: FreeManN

Just because they haven’t swallowed the Birther Kool-Aid doesn’t make them RINOs.


44 posted on 03/07/2009 7:34:54 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: nathanbedford

If only...it would happen without the political news machine there to tear him to shreds.


45 posted on 03/07/2009 7:35:30 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: FreeManN

LOL at anyone who calls Senator Kyl a RINO. If everyone in Congress is a “RINO,” then what does it take to be a “real” Republican? It could be a sign that you—and not they—are part of the fringe of the party.


46 posted on 03/07/2009 7:36:51 AM PST by Arguendo
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To: FreeManN

I find it amazing that our Courts rely on Snopes to make decisions. How about the law?


47 posted on 03/07/2009 7:36:57 AM PST by RC2
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To: Arguendo

I agree the word, like “racism,” has been overused to the extent that it means little. But there are some who do deserve it such as McCain, Martinez, and Specter.


49 posted on 03/07/2009 7:41:55 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Pearls Before Swine
“There's two avenues of argument about his status, but which one governs depends on where he was actually born. The more subtle one is that Anne Dunham hadn't been around long enough to confer citizenship maternally. The obvious one is that he was born somewhere else, and/or that his primary citizenships were British and then Indonesian.”

There is no Question about it, BO’s Father by bo’s own admission was a British/Kenyan Citizen. That is bo’s “Dreams of my Father” story and he is stuck with it.

Now I fully expect that bo being the prevaricator that he is will try to claim his dad was scumbag Frank Marshall or the racist Malcolm X but only the drugged out dummies or the dimest-witted demos will buy that BS. Would you want to wage a civil war manned only with allies of drugged out dummies and dim-witted demos?

50 posted on 03/07/2009 7:48:48 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info)
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