Skip to comments.Birth certificate issue seems not to go away
Posted on 03/07/2009 6:58:58 AM PST by AJMCQ
I dont know about the rest of you folks, but Ive been following this bit of news from a local paper and in the blogosphere and I feel the need to do my part and pass on what's happening:
Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S.citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.
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It's grave either way.....
Is it a coincidence that Obamas Grandmother Dunham passed away on election eve, November 3, 2008? It is related to the constitutional eligibility of Obama? Once he was confident in victory, he had to take care of loose ends. Dunham was the last living US witness to the events and location of BHOs naissance. Curious, they announce on election eve that she has succumbed from cancer, yet all the news previous to that was that she had a broken hip from a fall, went to the hospital and recovered. An election eve passing from a heretofore unannounced ailment is just too creepy. Hawaii officials said simultaneously there is a birth certificate in our vault but its sealed.
All loose ends are tied up. I pray that I just am a paranoid conspiracy wing nut.
The BC issue is waiting in the wings until discontent with BO reaches critical mass.
That's all the GOP needs to do to take advantage of this persistent doubt. And when you are dealing with a Pied Piper, doubt is one of your best weapons.
“A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S.citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.”
Not a single one of the True Believers would utter so much as a f*rt in a wind storm. The question is, would ANYBODY do ANYTHING at ALL? The issue has been out there for months, and so far no one in any position of authority has done anything but yawn.
The economic collapse will not end until Obozo is out of office.
The controversy about his birth certificate will not go away until he proves where he was born. He has not done that yet. And will never voluntarily do that, because what he has said is a lie.
zer0's strategy all along has been that "people will get tired of it, lose interest, and it will go away".
It is the duty of every citizen to see that The Constitution is upheld and that it doesn't go away! Since the Federal Government has shirked it's duty, each State Legislature should enact a law that requires that eligibility be certified before a candidate's name is placed on the ballot.
Exactly, use Rules for Radicals
There are plenty out there there who feel that BO may very well be illegal as President, but also say that because of the consequences of acknowledging this, it is better to leave him alone.
I don't agree. I believe that riots (or worse) are preferable to an openly acknowledged unconstitutional President.
I think the risk of riots might be preferable to the slow economic strangulation that is in the works.
.....If they wait a little longer, there might not be any riots
.....There might be a celebration!
Maybe. If found inelligible, Plugs would replace Zero. But Harry Reid and 9 percent Nancy would still be writing the law (0bama hasn't vetoed anything yet, nor would Plugs). Face it, Pelosi and Reid are in charge of the country. Obama remains an empty suit.
However, confidence in the dems would plummet should Obama found to be inelligible. That might help some.
So why would the consequences be “grave”?? Ignoring the economic condition of the country for a second (which the Democrats have been doing since 1936 anyway), the progression seems pretty clear to me: declare The One to be The Unqualified... he is stripped off the throne and Biden is sworn in to replace him. Biden then names a new Veep, and the country continues rolling along.... careening downhill as we had before, save for several inner-city riots.
The most solid indication that there might be a legitimate reason for concern is the fact that Obama has expensive lawyers fighting efforts to force disclosure instead of simply ending the distraction by producing a valid birth cerificate.
Even if the courts and the Republican party don’t want to deal with the issue there are several states that may pass a law requiring candidates to document their eligibility to hold the office before they can be placed on the state ballot as candidates.
If just one state passes this type of law think what it could mean when the 2012 election gets started up.
I would like to see the requirement to provide proof of eligibility extended to the primaries as well.
Biden would take over. Is the lawyer implying Biden would be that much worse?
0bama is a communist bent on destroying this Country.
I'll take my chance with the idiot.
What I can’t understand is why he doesn’t cough up his original birth certificate if he has one. Jeepers, I had to show one when I applied for a job years ago. Everyone knows where their birth certificate is. Just produce the document and it is all over.
This makes me think that there is more to it than meets the eye.
His handlers should be reeling him in about now, but who knows. To the un-sheepled, it's already at critical mass. This guy has been too hands-off since the beginning and any questioning sends him off the deep end. Tin foil and all, but white granny never had any media exposure and died at a very convenient time. Notice too that black granny hasn't been talking to the media either since dropping the bombshell about him being born in Kenya. No one from his past is talking but Ayers but then he's about the only person who won't bow down to The Messiah because he knows full well it's all fake.
I would think the lawyer is implying that any law that Obama had signed would be invalid. But I don’t know, am not a lawyer (and like to think I have trouble thinking like one.)
I’m starting to believe that this is an issue that will be raised when the level of discontent has grown. It’s not going away.
> Controversy continues...
Controversy continued for several years after “Gore really won, but lost”, too.
Noise does not equal legitimacy.
Agreed. IF we ignore the Constitution in this issue, we are opening the door to more and more like instances.
We must keep the heat on this issue. It is critical to the nation.
It’s time to take back the country.
The BC issue is waiting in the wings until discontent with BO reaches critical mass,
and it will sooner or later
To the un-sheepled, it’s already at critical mass.
But not to the others. I think obama may have to disappoint his base before the BC issue really comes to light.
I think by now he has probably had a very good forgery put in place with the aid of some of his minions in Hawaii and if it is forced into the open, it will initially look valid and may pull off the ruse. He's already gotten this far by delaying and he may be able to get all the way through the term.
Could it have anything to do with setting a precedent that anything other than the original BC is not valid proof of birth record? Until I see an ORIGINAL he ain’t my president.
Just asking because I don’t know. I do know cert. copies w/ a state seal are used all the time for other purposes. I don’t think a copy should be good enough for the office of president.
I still think an upside down Zero sticker needs to be our sign of protest. Damn sure make it alot easier to distinguish between the “US” and “THEMS”. Politics ought to be a real scary biz to be in right now. If POLITICIANS are smart at all they will show by their actions if allied with “US-We The People” or “them- those that would like to see this country move futher along the path to socialism”
Just the way I see it. A simple US and THEM.
What side are you on?
My ears hurt.
Everyone knows where their birth certificate is. Just produce the document and it is all over.
He can’t because it says Born in a hut in Kenya.
The issue may not be going away but for that matter it’s not going anywhere either.
As an usurper, everything he does or has done is deemed void, including his choosing the VP Biden as running mate. That is why it is a Constitutional crisis that most people are turning "blind" eyes toward???
Does Joe B. become the Pres with Nancy as VP?
I suppose the democrats would want to appoint a VP, as Nancy’s job is too important for the VP job. . Voting would not be needed. The Dems might lose.
What I found interesting is the picture of Zero’s Kenyan relatives, including his grandmother, in the Oval Office on Inauguation day.
My understanding is that the picture was just released, meaning that no one else (press included) was aware of their presence until they were long gone and back in Kenya, where the government refuses to let anyone ask any questions about their favorite son, Obama. And where his birthplace is a national monument, I read somewhere.
The Kenyan granny could no doubt be able to say ‘I saw him being born. I held him in the hospital (in Kenya) right after he was born’
And the visit to America was hidden until they (and Obama’s true birth story) were back under the protection of the Kenyan government.
The real atrocity here is not Obama per se, but the capablity of his enablers to control every aspect of his life history, to the point where no embarrassing secrets are leaked - and no truths, either. It is a remarkable feat that could not be accomplished without the willing help of a good many people.
This means that probably a lot of other things we are hearing ‘leaked’, like the camp business, the private police force, the plans to quell citizen uprising, may have more truth to them than I want to believe.
The machine that is the obama regime becomes more frightening every day.
I suspect that Nancy would go down too unless she accepted a deal to keep from going to prison. After all she signed a good many of the papers proclaiming Zero to be a valid candidate.
My wife's friends were talking the other day about Obama and the economy.
There are about 3 Obama voters and 6 who can't stand the guy.
One of the Obama voters sells home made soap on the internet. She was complaining about business dropping off.
When told that it was because Obama and the RATS are threatening socialism and spooking the markets, she said that the subject was depressing (where's the HOPE?) and "Let's talk about something else."
When faced with the consequences of their election choice, they always want to change the subject. They don't want to face the reality that capitalism works, socialism does not work, and that Obama is an anti-American radical with his hands firmly on the economic steering wheel purposely heading for the ditch.
You are an astute observer.
I thought the exact same thing as you,
although I couldn’t articulate it as well
as you just did.
We must keep watching this. We will se a LOT of money coming in to fight it! ATTN Freepers in MO.!
Missouri Representative Wayne Cooper (R-Camdenton) has introduced HJR 34. It has 15 Republican co-sponsors. It requires presidential candidates to submit a Birth Certificate to the Secretary of State, and says a certificate of live birth is not an adequate substitute.
Republicans have not and will not address the issue because they don’t want any thing to do with this economy. They don’t want to be held responsible. That’s why, in my opinion, they ran McCain. They knew he wouldn’t win and wanted to dump the economy on the democrats. Opening up Obama’s BC would put them in a bad spot.....in their opinion. What we need is people in Washington that have some guts. Start with your states.
This is no longer an issue.
SCOTUS will NOT do anything about it, because THEY swore Obama in with the knowledge that over 12 such suits were pending nation wide, two of which they refused to even hear prior to election day.
SCOTUS represented the last line of defense for our constitution. They blew it... effectively subjugating their power to the president and now fully dominate congress.
THE CONSTITUTION IS NO LONGER RELEVANT!
If this is not abundantly clear by now, then people just need to WAKE UP!
It is now nothing more than a tool to be interpreted how the powers that be (democrat-socialist party) need it to be interpreted. It is no longer the law of the land... it is the RUSE of the land... because it is has not been applied equally and literally. (and I’m not just talking about the BC issue... the BC issue was just the icing on the cake)
As LONG as democrats are in power, you can FORGET about this issue! If Republicans take the the senate and house in 2010, then MAYBE... just MAYBE... something can be done about it