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FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged, The John Galt Line
A Publius Essay | 7 March 2009 | Publius

Posted on 03/07/2009 7:48:34 AM PST by Publius

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To: CrappieLuck
...wonder why Eddie Willers was not invited...,...He was not a looter, he was dedicated to his work and a life long friend of Both Francisco and Dagny...

The part that I found interesting was Eddies decision to cut the ribbon only once not the three times that the press asked for. Had this decision been for his own values, he would have shown that he understood the action. I believe, however, he chose to because Dagny would have wanted it that way. Perhaps this is Rands demonstration of the subtleties of altruism. His action was decisive but for the wrong reason.

Maybe he symbolized the innocent, “civilian casualty” of the war with liberals.

Eddie is an 'in between'. He seems to live by someone elses convictions, never taking a stand for his own beliefs.

61 posted on 03/07/2009 2:54:43 PM PST by whodathunkit (Shrugging as I leave for the Gulch)
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To: CottonBall

I read AS about 3 times before I understood that Rand’s books are philosophy books, not entertainment stories. If you approach it from that view point, it’s easier to read.


62 posted on 03/07/2009 3:51:48 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: Clock King
I read AS about 3 times before I understood that Rand’s books are philosophy books, not entertainment stories. If you approach it from that view point, it’s easier to read.

Thank you. That makes sense. Her underlying message is what's important. Substance over style!
63 posted on 03/07/2009 4:14:56 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
What keywords work?

I had trouble with that too. You have to use "freeperbookclub". I guess you could go around to all the threads once you find them and add "atlasshrugged" or "aynrand" if you wanted to for the next time.

64 posted on 03/07/2009 5:55:15 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking
You have to use "freeperbookclub"

aha! I've been trying 'book club' - forgot the freeper part. I'll remember this now - thanks so much.
65 posted on 03/07/2009 6:13:04 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Try typing in Atlas Shrugged. It will automatically select the search type as “keywords”, but if you change that to “Titles” it should work just fine.


66 posted on 03/07/2009 6:17:54 PM PST by MtnClimber (... _ _ _ ...)
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To: Publius

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67 posted on 03/07/2009 6:25:02 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Publius
I think the rail line from Denver to Wyatt Junction is based on the railroad that runs near my house in the Rocky Mountains west of Denver. I live far above the rail line. but on a map it looks like it runs right by my house due to the steepness of the terrain. This rail line supports the "Ski Train" between Denver Station and Winter Park, many coal trains from the area of Carbondale, CO and other less frequent traffic like Amtrack. Other nearby western access rail lines that cross the continental divide originate from Cheyenne, WY to the north and Pueblo, CO to the south.

Leaving the Denver Station the rails head west and pass just to the south of the old Rocky Flats Nuclear Facility location. It passes through a tunnel under HWY 93 before some switchbacks as the rail begins climbing the sudden appearance of the front range peaks. The line turns north and crosses a small bridge over HWY 72 (which follows Coal Creek Canyon)and gradually traverses the front range uprise for a few miles heading north. This section of track is cut into the side of the mountain and has very steep drop-offs and numerous, short tunnels through mountain ridges. The line turns sharply to the west at Eldorado Canyon and runs for 10-12 miles on the steep edge of the canyon high above South Boulder Creek and is very precarious looking until the town of Pinecliffe.

At the town of Pinecliffe the grade becomes much more gentle and the railway follows on the side of the creek past Rollinsville (which is where Wyatt Junction would be) and continues following the creek until entering the Moffat Tunnel which cuts about a six mile path under the continental divide and emerges right in the ski resort town of Winter Park.

This is the view with a fairly wide angle lens looking west from my house. The continental divide is the highest range of peaks and is generally 13,000 to just under 14,000 ft in this area. (hope the photo works, I can't tell in preview)

[IMG]http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa124/mountainclmbr/Viewtothewestedit1.jpg[/IMG]

The rail line is in a difficult to see canyon that goes from the lower right of the photo and Rollinsville would be behind a ridge on the left edge of the photo. The Moffat Tunnel (no spoilers for later) is also on the left edge and is pretty far below tree line.

I know this is fiction, but a few observations: This part of the rail line has too many sharp turns to travel 100mph. Trains usually go only 20mph and there have been several major single train accidents even then. There is no major bridge on this section of the line. The oil shale is in western Colorado, not north-central Colorado. It is fiction, but I enjoy the tidbits that are based on reality!

68 posted on 03/07/2009 7:38:15 PM PST by MtnClimber (... _ _ _ ...)
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To: MtnClimber
Maybe this will work for the photo

View to the West

69 posted on 03/07/2009 7:40:54 PM PST by MtnClimber (... _ _ _ ...)
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To: Publius

I just bought Atlas Shrugged tonight so I am way behind. (Fat book small print I hope it grabs me or I’ll never make it to the end)


70 posted on 03/07/2009 7:45:39 PM PST by Ditter
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To: MtnClimber
What a gorgeous shot! Yes, Rand played with the topography in her book, and I sometimes think she didn't quite get how railroads work.

And thanks for holding off on the tunnel. It's one of the prize chapters in the book.

71 posted on 03/07/2009 8:17:43 PM PST by Publius (The Quadri-Metallic Standard: Gold and silver for commerce, lead and brass for protection.)
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To: Ditter
Take your time on reading it, while checking in on the previous threads to catch up, acessible from a link in this thread.

If you catch up with us at Chapter 10 or 11, that's OK.

72 posted on 03/07/2009 8:18:52 PM PST by Publius (The Quadri-Metallic Standard: Gold and silver for commerce, lead and brass for protection.)
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To: CrappieLuck

I wondered about that part, too. I guess we’ll discuss it more later.


73 posted on 03/07/2009 9:44:45 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Publius

bttt


74 posted on 03/07/2009 10:15:57 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Ditter

FYI I bought it last week and read a chapter a day to get caught up. The first few chapters can be challenging to get through, but keep in mind Rand is using those as a basic introduction to the characters. About chapter 4, the characters start interacting, that’s when I almost literally couldn’t put it down..


75 posted on 03/08/2009 6:31:27 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (A democrat will break your leg, then hand you a crutch and take credit for your being able to walk.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Thanks for the advise I am starting tonight.


76 posted on 03/08/2009 7:28:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Publius

Will do! I have wanted to read it for a long time, this is the perfect time.


77 posted on 03/08/2009 7:29:35 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clock King

I think that you hit the nail on the head about her writing style. I understood from talking to a (capitalist) friend who recommended the book to me that it was primarily a philosophy book. In spite of this I thought the 100MPH train ride was fun. I couldn’t wait to get to the bridge.


78 posted on 03/08/2009 8:27:31 AM PDT by DownwardSpiral (Downward Spiral is where the (socialist) liberals are taking us!)
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To: CottonBall
"Thank goodness we have FR to talk to like-minded people to stave off the mental loneliness that Dagney was feeling."

I usually feel alone in my opinions when I am among fellow workers, and neighbors. I choose my friends carefully,while my small family and I are largely in accord on most things political.

Appreciate the post in the midst of this also awesome AS Review.

79 posted on 03/08/2009 3:43:57 PM PDT by Radix (22;22 EST, 13 Feb 2009, C-Span2, Silent wait for Sen to come bury USA after burying his Mom)
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To: patj
The rough sex thing puzzles me. Does that mean that is how Rand likes it? Is it some puritanical throw back of guilt?

Dagney is a strong woman, strong character. She conquers anything she sets her mind too. The train ride is part of this sex scene. Her train, Readon's steel. Is it really rough sex or passionate sex between strong people? If Dagney had said, "No." Hank would not have violated her.

80 posted on 03/08/2009 4:08:36 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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