Posted on 03/07/2009 7:56:01 PM PST by tobyhill
It wasn't a fight I went looking for. On March 3, the popular radio host Mark Levin opened his show with an outburst (he always opens his show with an outburst): "There are people who have somehow claimed the conservative mantle … You don't even know who they are … They're so irrelevant … It's time to name names …! The Canadian David Frum: where did this a-hole come from? … In the foxhole with other conservatives, you know what this jerk does? He keeps shooting us in the back … Hey, Frum: you're a putz."
Now, of course, Mark Levin knows perfectly well where I come from. We've known each other for years, had dinner together. I'm a conservative Republican, have been all my adult life. I volunteered for the Reagan campaign in 1980. I've attended every Republican convention since 1988. I was president of the Federalist Society chapter at my law school, worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal and wrote speeches for President Bush—not the "Read My Lips" Bush, the "Axis of Evil" Bush. I served on the Giuliani campaign in 2008 and voted for John McCain in November. I supported the Iraq War and (although I feel kind of silly about it in retrospect) the impeachment of Bill Clinton. I could go on, but you get the idea.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
Have you ever noticed how when these media nobodies get ANY kind of attention they immediately write a column portraying themselves as victims, so they can join the "Yes, I've suffered, too!" brigades?
To them, being criticized for something they've said is the same as a battlefield wound.
Don’t read Frum anymore. He’s an Eastern Elite and looks down on me. Irrelevant.
The bottom line is...Obama had BETTER fail, or America does.
...and that’s the truth!
Frum is a pathetic idiot.
He feels "silly" about supporting the impeachment of a president who committed perjury?
His feelings of silliness are indeed silly. (And that's being kind.)
Uhhhhhh...I wouldn't point to my association with Giuliani as a way to bolster my Conservative credentials.
“If” David Frum was set alight and put into a wheel barrow headed down towards the edge of the Grand Canyon, I must admit to being more concerned about the wheel barrow’s final allotment then Mr. Frum.
Enough with the Vichy Republicans, cannot win with them, cannot use their ideas, cannot use their talking points.
Can’t do it.
What a POS. Mark Levin tore him a new and now he's whining. What a jerk.
Listen to Levin take the loser to the woodshed....
I didn’t know anything about him until this thread. I read about four paragraphs of his screed.....Your assessment is spot on!
On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of "responsibility," and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.
And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as "losers." With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence—exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And we're cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rush's every rancorous word—we'll be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.
I don't need to read anymore to understand that this guy, Frum, is an apologist and an a** kisser.
The language of responsibility associated with Barack Obama? Really? How responsible was it to rub soldiers with a self-admitted, unrepeentant terrorist like Ayers? How responsible was it to be tangled up financially with a guy like Rezco? How responsible is it, Frum, to be dismantling the free market, to casually write off the DOW and the billions and trillions being loss as a, sot of "poll"?
So, Barry's only vice is an occassional cigarette? What about the coke he admits to snorting you fool? By his own admission, the occassional blow...the rumors that as a state senator he may have still indulged?
And then you have the audacity to talk about Rush's pain pills?
Rush is a self made man...and a very successful one at that. He is the epitome of what the free market means when someone delivers a good product and service that others desire and then they freely choose to use it.
And that is what this is about. Obama and his ilk are picking a fight with Rush precisely so folks like you will create a rift in the GOP and particularly amongst conservatives...and you have taken the bait, hook line and sinker.
They want to divide us as their opposition, and they want to somehow, any way they can, remove Rush from the position of influence he holds precisely because they hate the free market because it cuts so directly against their marxist ideology.
They are going to fail in the long run...but Obama is going to make a lot of Americans hurt between now and then and I hope too that he fails in his efforts so fewer Americans are hurt as a result of his policies.
Obviously Frum thinks he is important, but I don’t think more than a few people would agree.
Say no more. Hazy homoerotic references to the idiot-boy's physique are definitive signs--Frum has drunk the koolaid. He joins Nooner, Brooks, Gergen, et al. on the sellout line.
Sounds like you have a thing for him, too, Mr. Frum.
As for Present Obama's perceived epitomization of responsibility, do you think it was "responsible" of him to sit in his church pew for 20 years while his Pastor lambasted the United States of America at every turn?
Was it "responsible" of him to pal around with (that's right, I said pal around with) admitted domestic terrorists?
Was it "responsible" of him to engage in a real estate transaction with a well-known slumlord that redounded to his own great benefit?
Was it responsible of Obama to dismiss his nominee for Treasury Secretary's tax evasion?
The list goes on and on, Mr. Frum.
As for Rush's "history of drug dependency". What a cheap shot. Rush's drug dependency came about as a result of medication he was prescribed. You seem to have forgotten that Obama himself admitted to smoking marijuana and there are reports that he also used cocaine.
Bottom line, Mr. Frum, you're pathetic.
Levin made an absolute monkey of Frum on the radio. And that’s not racist because both of them are white.
I don’t want Obama to “succeed”, and I am not ashamed to say so.
Here’s why:
If Obama “succeeds”, he is going to destroy the free market in this country, gut our military and cement liberalism in the government programs put in place by this so called “Stimulus Package”.
I do not want him to succeed. If we, as a country have to suffer for several years due to his failure, but have a chance to come out the other side with functioning markets that have a chance to recover, then I would take that over his “success”. Is his “success” going to bring back the half of my retirement savings that have been lost? Absolutely not. Is it going to create jobs and spur industry? No. Is it going to raise my taxes or shrink my paycheck? Well, government money only comes from three places: Taxes, Loans, or Printing Presses. All of them are bad if abused. If they raise taxes, my paycheck goes down. If they take loans, the money to pay them back has to come from somewhere, and if the printing presses do double-time, the value of my earnings go down to I have to spend more to buy the same thing.
So, NO. I don’t want him to succeed.
I don’t feel that way out of schadenfreude, I feel that way because we have spent a lot of blood and treasure to give our citizens the most comfortable existence for the largest number of people in history. American style free market capitalism is the rising tide that has floated all boats and made the lives of untold millions around the world better because of it.
He feels "silly" about demanding that the President of the United States adhere to the rule of law which means telling the truth in front of a grand jury?
He should feel silly about feeling silly.
Geez, Frum, get a room.
Conciliatory? "I won."
Never angry? Membership in an anti-Jewish church? ACORN??? "Typical white person," the constant slamming of Bush. Frum doesn't seem to understand that one doesn't always yell when angry. Obama will appear in public standing quietly and saying nothing, even while his minions in the press are, say, opening up sealed divorce documents of political rivals. Is Frum so shallow that he can't understand someone who knows when the camera is on.
Always invoking the recession and its victims--in order to use their plight for political gain, portraying those opposing his positions as selfish and not caring about the victims. (Can Frum REALLY be this dense?)
Epitomizes responsibility? You mean when he's blaming Bush for everything?
His characterization of Rush is interesting, because he chooses only the negative and avoids the positive--aggressive instead of passionate, for example--the reverse of his bizarre portrait of Obama. And oddly enough, one could take all of what he says about Rush and apply it to many of the "victims" Obama so cares about. Odd how he talks about CPAC but not the Republican-bashing yukfest where Obama had crowd of Dems cheering his every rancorous word.
Frum's true nature is all over this. He needs to check his "conservatism".
Yea. Big government has nothing to do with the mortgage meltdown. Mr Frum, you aren't nearly as bright as you seem to believe yourself to be. And if you think Rush is a racist why don't you just come out and say so? Then back it up with some quotes. And after you've quoted innocuous statements, tell us why we a PC type like yourself, that swallows whole the left wing view of who is and isn't acceptable in polite company, should be considered conservative because you once wrote a speech. Sarah Palin is vastly smarter and more competent than you.
No "report" there. He admitted it in his book:"...Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it..."
(His words)
Conciliatory??? "I won" is conciliatory?
His worst vice an occasional cigarette? How about singlehandedly destroying this country? He swore to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the US. Hell, he's not even trying! He's a liar!
Levin was right. You are a putz!
I wonder if this RINO sack of cr*p believes his own lies?
Republicans, who are conservatives are faced with a conundrum! If they allow the likes of Frum and others of his ilk to proclaim themselves Republicans, then what’s to stop all manner of circus freaks to come under the “Big Top” (er...tent)?
Following in FDRs footsteps he’s sure to fail and I probably won’t live long enough to see the end of the depression that he is trying to extend for many years.
Frum is a non-entity to conservatives now. He might as well become a Dimocrat.
And if I hear one more time that Rush needs to appeal to women, I think I might just smack someone. I don't know any women who don't love Rush, unless they are liberals.
The media just won’t stop. Newsweek would never give the cover story to someone who would defend Rush.
All this crap was started by Paul Begala and the band of thugs.
Paul Begala. The guy who said this.
“I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit” on Sept. 11, 2001. “I had friends on that plane; this is deadly serious to me,” Begala said.
“They want to kill me and my children if they can. But if they just kill me and not my children, they want my children to be comforted — that while they didn’t protect me because they cut my taxes, my children won’t have to pay any money on the money they inherit,” Begala said. “That is bulls*** national defense, and we should say that.”
Thanks for the assist. I was trying to give Present Potato Head the benefit of the doubt. Which, come to think of it, is a trait I've acquired since I've become a Dittohead.
Which reminds me. David Frum says Rush "claims" 20 million listeners. Now, I'm no expert on how ratings are established, but I believe there is an outfit that has a vested interest in providing accurate audience numbers called Arbitron (sp?) and it is THEY who are the source for the number of listeners Rush has.
I wonder who provides the math when it comes to readers of Frum's rag, Newsweak. I realize I am going out on a limb by saying this but my spidey senses tell me the number of people who read Newsweak doesn't come anywhere near the number of people who listen to Limbaugh.
Where is that damn hook to take this moron off the stage.
Frum makes a lot of good points, but throughout his column I got a whiff of fear. I’ll take Rush’s honest, combative rhetoric over Frum’s duplicitous intellectual reasoning any day, especially when that intellectual reasoning starts to sound like, “Let’s fool the voters by pretending to be Democrat-lite.” Why else would Frum acknowledge that Al Gore’s alarmist “global warming” scheme to help the Euro-socialists redistribute Americans’ wealth? We should go along with Gore’s scheme a little bit, says Frum. Okay. And a little bit of cancer never hurt anybody, either.
I can almost guarantee something happened in Frum’s personal life to make him flip-flop so dramatically. He has literally lost his mind and is now shilling for the Dems unabashedly.
Isn’t Frum the tard that claims to speak for conservatives???
Soon to be the next David Gergen.
A pithy comment at the article link:
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“Posted By: aviator1971 @ 03/08/2009 12:54:30 AM
I know David Frum. I worked with him at the White House. The reason he goes to such painstaking lengths to describe himself as important is because, no surprise, he wasn’t.
He wasn’t a player. Mike Gerson, John McConnell and Matt Scully were the speechwriters with standing. Frum was always the one peering inside - wanting to be included or respected.
It is terrifically awkward to watch him now. Always thought to have low self-esteem, the first few paragraphs of this article remove all doubt. He is a pathetically empty man who is striving to be someone he can’t be.
Good luck, David. It must be tough for you to watch others from our days at the White House not only outperform you, but command respect (something you never had).
Pity you.”
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And right on, too. He is a supreme putz.
Excellent ... thank you !
Frum: I'm a conservative Republican
It's questionable if Frum was ever a relevant conservative, or a conservative at all.
It's quite clear that he definitely is not a conservative at all.
I just listened to him on Levin's show and he was as liberal as any of the run of mill brain-seared unidirectional leftists.
He is trying to convince people to see him as a conservative. He isn't even close to conservative-lite but some conservatives still describe him as a conservative.
He is just another VICHY CONSERVATIVE!!!!
I stopped reading Newsweak probably 10-15 years ago.
A lot of people say Rush Limbaugh is a businessman and an entertainer, and he would be the first to agree. But being a businessman/entertainer and an educator are not mutually exclusive.
I am a subscriber, and it was some of the best money I have spent.
Frum is such a self loathing panty waist
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