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Police: Ill. pastor deflected gunshot with Bible
ABC ^ | 3/8/09 | Mikey_1962

Posted on 03/08/2009 3:52:33 PM PDT by Mikey_1962

A shooting during a morning church service outside St. Louis has left one person dead -- the church's pastor -- and several others wounded, officials said.

The Rev. Fred Winters was at the pulpit at the First Baptist Church in Maryville, Ill., at 8:15 a.m. local time today when a man wearing dark clothing approached the pulpit and fired four shots, the first of which hit the pastor's Bible, Illinois State Police Director Larry Trent said at a news conference late today.

One of the shots from the gunman's .45 caliber pistol hit Winters in the chest, killing him, before his gun jammed, said Trooper Ralph Timmins of the Illinois State Police, which is handling the investigation.

After his gun jammed, the shooter injured himself with a knife and subsequently was restrained by parishioners, Timmins said in a "preliminary release" left on his office voicemail recording

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bible; churchshooting; fredwinters; illinois; knife; knifing; maryville; sedlacek; shooting; tm; winters
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1 posted on 03/08/2009 3:52:33 PM PDT by Mikey_1962
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I don’t really understand the point of the story. Since he died anyway it was sort of irrelevant.


2 posted on 03/08/2009 3:54:21 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Mikey_1962

For a while.


3 posted on 03/08/2009 3:54:38 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Mikey_1962

Rush Limbaugh’s fault? Waiting until that refrain replaces Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 03/08/2009 3:54:54 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: Mikey_1962

Yes he does.

Unfortunately for this man and his friends and family, the laws of physics that God put in place allowed only one bullet to be deflected by the Bible he held. Three other bullets took the earthly life of this minister.

It looks like he will likely be the only fatality and we may have another media murderer to study while he spends the rest of his life in prison.


5 posted on 03/08/2009 3:57:58 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Mikey_1962

Any picture or description of the perp yet?


6 posted on 03/08/2009 4:01:10 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

That was a good reply.


7 posted on 03/08/2009 4:01:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: FreepShop1

This seems like the new laughable refrain we are going to hear, but there is another more sinister side of this problem. Not that an old solid First B pastor would be teaching this, but the Health/Wealth “Gospel” of the Joel Osteens ilk could present a problem when it doesn’t pay off as “taught” and the guy gave his last IRA dollar to the “ministry” as “Seed money”. We may see enraged followers (not believers) storm these buildings completely infuriated over the failed “promises”.


8 posted on 03/08/2009 4:02:23 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

another media murderer to study while he spends the rest of his life in prison.


“media murderer” — most apropos in defining them

And of course the “rights” of the murderer far outweighs the death of this wonderful human being.


9 posted on 03/08/2009 4:03:11 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: Mikey_1962
If it had been an imam who had been shot and his copy of the koran had been hit, the point of the story would be the desecration of the damned koran.

And that, folks is the difference between a religion and a death cult.

10 posted on 03/08/2009 4:06:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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[as the townspeople point guns at Bart, the newly arrived sheriff]
Reverend Johnson: Gentlemen, gentlemen, allow not hatred to rule the day.
[holds up his Bible]
Reverend Johnson: As your spiritual leader, I implore you to pay heed to this good book and what it has to say!
[Townspeople shoot the Bible, blowing it apart]
Reverend Johnson: [to Bart] Son, you're on your own.

Blazing Saddles

11 posted on 03/08/2009 4:06:45 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

This has been a long time to identify the shooter.Could he be a Muslim?What if anything did he say before shooting?


12 posted on 03/08/2009 4:06:57 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; yarddog

That Bible’s gonna sell for a lot on eBay.


13 posted on 03/08/2009 4:08:32 PM PDT by library user (Rod Blagojevich should have been TIME MAGAZINE'S "Person of the Year.")
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If it was his own personal Bible, it will likely be kept by his widow or buried with him.


14 posted on 03/08/2009 4:14:10 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Mikey_1962
How sad. Prayers up for Pastor Winters and his family.

Link to their website's about page with pictures of the Pastor and his family...http://www.fbmaryville.org/aboutus/welcome.cfm
15 posted on 03/08/2009 4:18:32 PM PDT by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: yarddog
I wondered that too...

...I think the media meant is in disrespect, which is sick...as the pastor has died.

16 posted on 03/08/2009 4:31:09 PM PDT by Guenevere ("He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose")
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To: Mikey_1962

Obama’s fault!


17 posted on 03/08/2009 4:34:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Mikey_1962

ok islamofasicts: this is a real example of a martyr.


18 posted on 03/08/2009 4:40:53 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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Jesus Saves!

The pastor should know by now as he has met his maker.

19 posted on 03/08/2009 4:41:52 PM PDT by ColdWater
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http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/08/gunman-kills-pastor-church-near-st-louis/

“Gunman kills pastor at church near St. Louis”
Marci Winters-McLaughlin/AP
By JOEL CURRIER and MICHELLE MUNZ St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Sunday, March 8, 2009

MARYVILLE, Ill. —

SNIPPET: “The Rev. Fred Winters, said to be in his 40s, died at nearby Anderson Hospital of a gunshot wound to the chest, officials said.

The attacker, whose identity has not been released, was in serious condition at St. Louis University Hospital, where he was being taken into surgery for treatment of self-inflicted stab wounds.”

SNIPPET: “Timmins said the .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol then jammed, and the gunman began stabbing himself with a knife. When members of the congregation moved to subdue him, two of them were slashed. Timmins said they suffered non-life-threatening wounds. They were transferred via helicopters to other hospitals, an Anderson Hospital spokeswoman said.

One of them was identified as Terry Bullard, 39, who underwent surgery at St. Louis University Hospital and was in serious condition, authorities said.”


20 posted on 03/08/2009 4:43:00 PM PDT by Cindy
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