Skip to comments.ABC News: Juarez, Mexico under the equivalent of Martial Law
Posted on 03/08/2009 6:15:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Mexican military forces take over police duty in Juarez, Mexico to combat drug cartel violence. Death count expected to increase.
(Excerpt) Read more at video.google.com ...
Gee, I hope the wall doesn’t hurt any field mouse habitat.
I am going into San Antonio this week to buy a handgun and take the safety course for CC.
If you want to vacation there, can you bring your own guns and ammunition?
Any rumblings at Fort Bliss/El Paso?
What are they talking about? Juarez residents are right in front of the Home Depot here on Sunset..
Who knows good guy from bad guy in that incestuous relationship?
Next on the Martial Law list - Pontiac, Michigan
Ten years too late, at least.
Only thing I remember about Juarez (1878) was going down there on my “green bean” tour (no stripes on my USAF work uniform), drinking tequila, watching a stripper get humped by a guy in a gorilla costume and throwing up.
Ah, memories. Sounds like the town has really changed. You could pay me enough to live in El Paso or Las Cruces nowadays.
If you are caught with a wepon and do not have the CCW, you can get in trouble for doing absolutely nothing at all.
Now how foolish would that be?
Well, I'm not THAT old...try 1978
Hmmm... no mention of this on CNN.com. Must not be important.
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The stripper got humped and threw up? Well... I know nothing of such matters...
I will be over in Juarez soon....will shoot as much video as I can. Will post to youtube and also send to fox news if I get something really good.
Gotta go over to see my dentist and take care of some other business.
“If you want to vacation there, can you bring your own guns and ammunition?”
vacation there......why? for a little fun?
Fisnish the fence, build a wall and deport illegals.
It has been ongoing for a few days now. Some other info/videos of the troops:
CNN Story fromn a couple days ago:
Texas makes emergency plans in case violence spills over from Mexico
The ABC analysis ignores the difference between a police department dealing with a crime wave and a military force dealing with an insurrection.
Police are constrained to use minimum necessary force and to treat each perpetrator as an individual suspect. While the police are investigating and arresting individual criminals, the crime wave continues beyond their control
Once the decision has been made that it is no longer just a crime wave and that it has to be treate as an insurrection then military doctrine supplants police doctrime. That means that instead of using minimum necessary force, maximum available force is brought to bear.
Military doctrine has a clearer distinction between force and violence. Maximizing the early application of force has as its main purpose the suppression of violence.
In other words, if the deployed military is competent, there is an inverse relationship between force and violence.
Meanwhile our dunce parties, flits around as if campaigning, talks to the next ones on terror lists.
LOL, were you at Clovis?
Since Vicente Fox is such a fun guy, why not give him a gun and badge so that he can go into Juarez to clean up the mess that he started???????? Politicians are not much different in Mexico than they are here!
“In other words, if the deployed military is competent...”
I have seen their military...they are NOT comparable to our guys patrolling in Bagdad.
Hell, I have even seen their military on our side of the border riding about in jeeps and acting as fools.
>Who knows good guy from bad guy in that incestuous relationship?
Hey, at least the Mexican government is HONEST about its corruption; unlike here where it’s “if you get caught”.
Yeah, Obama will order US troops to escort illegal aliens to safety in US
The streets in Juarez used to be full of soldiers from Ft Bliss....not any more....you don’t see any of them there any more. And all the night spots are boarded up...lack of customers I suppose.
Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau
May 14, 2008
WASHINGTON As many as 200 U.S.-trained Mexican security personnel have defected to drug cartels to carry out killings on both sides of the border and as far north as Dallas, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Humble, told Congress on Wednesday.
The renegade members of Mexico's elite counter-narcotics teams trained at Fort Benning, Ga., have switched sides, contributing to a wave of violence that has claimed some 6,000 victims over the past 30 months, including prominent law enforcement leaders, the Houston-area Republican told the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
i never got used to seeing children in conflict zones...
The decapitations have been going on just south of San Diego for a long time and last week several more.
Nine headless bodies found
Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:59pm EST
TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Nine decapitated bodies were discovered on Sunday in the Mexican border city of Tijuana, a hot spot in an increasingly gruesome war between drug cartels.
The bodies, along with their removed heads, had been left in a vacant lot beside a factory, witnesses and police told reporters.
Mexico is facing spiraling drug violence, especially along its border with the United States. Cities like Tijuana, south of San Diego, are seeing horrendous levels of crime, with bodies set on fire, cut up and dumped in acid and strung over highways.
Beheadings, kidnappings and daylight shootings have become common as vicious drug cartels fight over smuggling routes into the United States.
President Felipe Calderon has sent some 40,000 troops and federal police across Mexico to try to stop the killings. But despite major drug seizures and arrests, the killings continue.
A recent battle in the streets had many young school kids running in Tijuana.
Because this is south of Calif. it doesn’t count because Calif. doesn’t count in most people’s world
I’m a nite owl...up to the wee hours most nights.
I live on a small ranch in New Mexico....just outside the El Paso county limits. A few nights ago I was out back sittin in the yard while the dog did his business....I heard something that sounded like a 2-cycle moped up in the air to the west....ran in the house and got this huge spotlight and pointed it in the direction of the sound...it was a dark colored ultralight zipping along about 500ft above the ground. It’s illegal to fly an ultralight in the dark.....so something interesting was going on. The thing continued east till it went out of sight.
I was at Holloman AFB, Alamogordo, NM
It was wonderful back then but I’m not sure I would want to be within 100 miles of the border nowadays.
Ultralight Aircraft Emerging Trend in Drug Trafficking
John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said marijuana, not heroin or cocaine, is the "bread and butter," "the center of gravity" for Mexican drug cartels that every year smuggle tons of it through the porous U.S.-Mexico border. Of the $13.8 billion that Americans contributed to Mexican drug traffickers in 2004-05, about 62 percent, or $8.6 billion, comes from marijuana consumption.
So far that battle is in Wa-Zoo for the most part,,,
Wait for the Katyushas to start fallin’ in El Paso,,,
Those will be American Kids!!!
Past time for the 4th.I.D. to roll their M1-A2’ that way,,,
That place looks like B-Dad,,,
Time for a “Thunder Run!”...
One advantage we in Michigan is the fact we don’t have a 3rd world country next door. However we do have more than our fair share of their residents.
Here in Tennessee, the communist rag Memphis Commercial Appeal has posted the names and addresses of every CC permit holder in Tennessee. They are trying to attach a negative stigma to those who carry firearms and publicly focus scorn on the "bad" gun-toters.
That is childish reasoning.
Mexico is corrupt period. Always has been.
IF is wasn’t drugs, it would be something else.
Crime would be far worse with legal drugs, kids and
others on just marajuana will be robbing and killing
for money for drugs. Marajuana, a gateway drug, then
it becomes crack and coke, etc.
Bad enough drunk drivers, we don’t need more pot heads driving
I love my home here in Texas, But, I have stopped traveling down to south Texas. I use to love South Padre Island, but it is truely like traveling to Mexico. No one speaks english, and when the see my blonde hair and blue eyes, I feel like a target has been painted on my back.
Alleged acid disposal man for Mexico gang nabbed
By Marina Martinez, Associated Press
Saturday, 24 January 2009
A man accused of helping a Mexican drug kingpin dispose of hundreds of victims by dissolving their bodies in acid was arrested in the border city of Tijuana, authorities said yesterday.
A Mexican military statement said Santiago Meza Lopez confessed to disposing of at least 300 bodies over a decade, but authorities provided no further evidence to back the claim. Officials contend he dumped the bodies in graves, poured acid on them and let them dissolve underground.
The victims are believed to be rivals of Teodoro Garcia Simental, an alleged former lieutenant of the Tijuana-based Arellano Felix drug cartel, authorities said.
Soldiers and police paraded Meza, 45, before reporters at a cement-block shack on the outskirts of Tijuana where he allegedly disposed of the bodies. Two grave-sized holes had been dug near the walls.
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