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President Barack Obama declares America should be ready to talk to the Taliban
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 7:39PM GMT 08 Mar 2009 | By Ben Farmer in Kabul

Posted on 03/08/2009 11:30:23 PM PDT by FBD

President Obama said the military was not winning the counter insurgency war in Afghanistan as he opened the door for peace negotiations.

By persuading Iraqi Sunni insurgents to turn on al-Qaeda extremists, US commanders engineered a sharply drop in violence in Iraq.

President Obama said deals similar to those implemented by General David Petraeus in Iraq could be cut in Afghanistan and Pakistan. "If you talk to General Petraeus, I think he would argue that part of the success in Iraq involved reaching out to people that we would consider to be Islamic fundamentalists, but who were willing to work with us because they had been completely alienated by the tactics of al-Qaeda in Iraq."

"There may be some comparable opportunities in Afghanistan and the Pakistani region, but the situation in Afghanistan is, if anything, more complex," he told the New York Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abovemypaygrade; afghanistan; appeasement; bho44; bhogwot; cutandrun; democrats; first100days; impeachobama; loser; nowot; obama; surrender; surrenderusa; taliban; whiteflag; worst100days; wot
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1 posted on 03/08/2009 11:30:23 PM PDT by FBD
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To: MeekOneGOP

PING


2 posted on 03/08/2009 11:30:53 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD

His name is Hussein and he’s Muslim, no surprise here.


3 posted on 03/08/2009 11:32:35 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: FBD

No matter what he says, it rings of cluelessness and desperation.


4 posted on 03/08/2009 11:33:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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To: FBD

He’s already said too much...”We lost” and “We’re pulling our troops out of Iraq”. Maybe he wants to give them a little more taxpayer money .


5 posted on 03/08/2009 11:34:17 PM PDT by BigFinn (Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: FBD
"President Obama said the military was not winning the counter insurgency war in Afghanistan as he opened the door for peace negotiations"

Oh, and up yours Mr Obama, you cheese-eating, surrender monkey

6 posted on 03/08/2009 11:34:39 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: 1035rep

It sure didn’t take long for him to surrender, what is it now, 6 weeks in office?


7 posted on 03/08/2009 11:35:12 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD

> “By persuading Iraqi Sunni insurgents to turn on al-Qaeda extremists, US commanders engineered a sharply drop in violence in Iraq.”

Really?? And I thought that the SURGE and our tenacious resolve to kill terrorists there, plain and simple was the reason. Silly me...


8 posted on 03/08/2009 11:35:22 PM PDT by max americana
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To: FBD
"The Taliban is bolder than it was."

Well, duh! Of course it is Obama, you fool. That's because it does not much fear you and your weak friends.

9 posted on 03/08/2009 11:35:42 PM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: FBD
Obammuh clearly has no understanding of the details involved in the creation of the Awakening movement in Iraq.

He's talking apples and oranges.

10 posted on 03/08/2009 11:36:00 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: FBD

No kidding. Liberals are cowards, every last one of them.


11 posted on 03/08/2009 11:37:25 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: BigFinn

Pesident Obama...That says it all. Plan your escape and survival.


12 posted on 03/08/2009 11:39:09 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: FBD

Why would you want to talk to people who desire to destroy you with every fiber of their being, and would give anything to see the United States vanish from the face of the Earth?

That’s just plain crazy!


13 posted on 03/08/2009 11:39:51 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: FBD
"It sure didn’t take long for him to surrender, what is it now, 6 weeks in office?"

Anyone with a brain saw this coming when he was elected. He has the blood of patriots on his hands and it will never wash off.

14 posted on 03/08/2009 11:40:52 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: FBD

Obama’s hope is
“I hope the troops fail”

Obama’s change is from winning to losing and from prosperity to poverty.


15 posted on 03/08/2009 11:41:07 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: FBD

We should let our “WARTHOGS” do the talking for us!


16 posted on 03/08/2009 11:41:23 PM PDT by getarope (I will give Obama as much respect as the MSM gave W.)
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To: FBD

Yeah, we’ll talk. Talk to this......

“Fill you hands you sons a #@%*&!!” (The Duke in True Grit)


17 posted on 03/08/2009 11:41:54 PM PDT by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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18 posted on 03/08/2009 11:45:25 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD
Maybe Obama should hold peace talks with the Americans 1st.

He already has spent more time alienating and robbing American citizens and defunding our military whilst praising and lavishing almost 1 billion dollars on a terrorist group dedicated to slaughtering our most faithful ally, women and children 1st.

He has enough explaining to do here, though I'd be satisfied if he permanently relocated there.

19 posted on 03/08/2009 11:46:00 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Retire the Left & RINO's in 2010)
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To: BigFinn
>”Maybe he wants to give them a little more taxpayer money .”<

-maybe he'll offer them political asylum...in Chicago.

20 posted on 03/08/2009 11:48:02 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: max americana

“And I thought that the SURGE and our tenacious resolve to kill terrorists there, plain and simple was the reason. Silly me...”

No doubt that Sunni compliance helped but I agree with you. Can this guy simply not bring himself to praise the troops with any sincerity? I hope he FAILS as president, it makes me happy when he fails because as all freepers know he is incredibly arrogant and actually looks down his nose at the job he holds. I miss W.


21 posted on 03/08/2009 11:48:11 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: FBD

I will never forgive the noodle heads that put that moron in our White House, never.


22 posted on 03/08/2009 11:50:51 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to survive, Obama must fail.....)
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To: FBD

Talk with bullets, bombs and anything else that will exterminate them, take no prisoners!


23 posted on 03/08/2009 11:51:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: 4woodenboats

Maybe Obama should hold peace talks with the Americans 1st.

he could start with Rush Limbaugh and Jim Cramer.


24 posted on 03/08/2009 11:51:39 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: 4woodenboats

-and who was his first television interview with?
wasn’t it an Arab state run media outlet?


25 posted on 03/08/2009 11:51:45 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: Deo volente

Zero is crazy! (and/or evil)

I have learned by personal experience that you can’t explain, excuse or deal with an evil or crazy person.
There are only a few choices:

1. Get away from the person and don’t have anything to do with them. (Hard to do in this case because zero is the pretend POTUS)

2. Stick your head in the sand and learn to live with them.

3. Make the person go away. For this particular case I am praying for zero being kicked out of the white house and/or sent to prison.

Nothing this piece of garbage does makes sense to normal thinking people. Stuff like this is only going to get bigger and get worse.


26 posted on 03/08/2009 11:52:34 PM PDT by Aurorales
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To: blackbart.223

“Anyone with a brain saw this coming when he was elected.”

even I didn’t expect him to want to get rid of charitable tax deductions.


27 posted on 03/08/2009 11:53:05 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Gator113
I used to give the less rabid Obama voters a little latitude, for being merely uninformed.
No longer. Not at this point.
28 posted on 03/08/2009 11:55:56 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD

talk to the Taliban? Kill the mo-fo’s


29 posted on 03/08/2009 11:57:00 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (America needs to be lead by warriors , not lawyers)
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To: FBD

I think it’s dawned on him that you can’t nationalize health care, energy, the banking system, automobile manufacturing, and still prosecute a global war. And when the Left needs to “cut back” and economize on something, the Defense Department always bears the burden.


30 posted on 03/08/2009 11:58:45 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: ari-freedom
"Even I didn’t expect him to want to get rid of charitable tax deductions."

I saw that one coming. He wants as people as possible dependent on government. That is the means to control.

31 posted on 03/09/2009 12:03:43 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: max americana; Deo volente; blackbart.223; Darkwolf377

Isn’t this is a complete 180 from his statements in his address to Joint Session of Congress? I believe it is.

Not that I’m surprised.


32 posted on 03/09/2009 12:05:52 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD

“You’re not winning the war against the Taliban”

Thanks Mr. President! Thanks for watching our back!!!!


What are we going to talk to the Taliban about? “Please stop killing people or we’ll stop talking to you. Be nice, okay, Mt beheader?”

What a naive MF’er


33 posted on 03/09/2009 12:08:09 AM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: pawdoggie

>”I think it’s dawned on him that you can’t nationalize health care, energy, the banking system, automobile manufacturing, and still prosecute a global war.”<

That makes perfect sense, from the twisted logic of a socialist.

Those goals aren’t feasible even without the WOT, but he probably doesn’t see it that way.


34 posted on 03/09/2009 12:09:49 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD

I’m not sure, but you obviously don’t understand the nuances of international diplomacy, unlike Obama, who’s had SO much experience dealing with the Taliban. /sarc.


35 posted on 03/09/2009 12:10:21 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Behind enemy lines in Boston and Cambridge)
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To: blackbart.223

I would have thought think he’d encourage them because non profits have nothing to do with the capitalism he hates. Many of these non profits support liberal causes or causes that conservatives aren’t interested in, such as art museums.


36 posted on 03/09/2009 12:13:44 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: FBD

FUBO and your HOG!(Hussein Occupation Government)


37 posted on 03/09/2009 12:17:13 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FBD
This is what I'd tell the Taliban.

moon Pictures, Images and Photos

Not terribly presidential, though. LOL!

38 posted on 03/09/2009 12:18:39 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: FBD

Second day of reporting on this isn’t sitting any better with me than the first.


39 posted on 03/09/2009 12:20:05 AM PDT by libsmacker75
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To: FBD

F.U.B.O.


40 posted on 03/09/2009 12:22:32 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: ari-freedom
"I would have thought think he’d encourage them because non profits have nothing to do with the capitalism he hates.

You are naive my friend. This about control and power. Nothing more and nothing less.

41 posted on 03/09/2009 12:29:40 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: FBD
He ( Obama ) does not understand, the Tal-lee-ban, is not the sunnis, in Iraq.

These guys won't stand down.

Well maybe he does understand it......B. Hussein, is with out a doubt .........the enemy within.

42 posted on 03/09/2009 12:36:46 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: FBD

The analogy, whether made by Obma or anyone else - Taliban in Afghanistan = Sunni Insurgents in Iraq - is false.

We got the Sunni insurgents to work AGAINST Al Queda.

Who would Obama be asking the Taliban to work AGAINST?

We have already been doing in Afghanistan what would be analogous to what we did in Iraq. We have not obliterated the Afghan war lords; and have been working with them as much as practical, AGAINST the Taliban.

Some have even been named as “governors” by the Afghan government, and locally some remain stronger than the central government in Afghanistan.


43 posted on 03/09/2009 12:46:47 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: FBD

And this from a boy who is scared to death to talk to Rush Limbaugh.


44 posted on 03/09/2009 12:48:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: FBD

What a stupidass.


45 posted on 03/09/2009 12:57:11 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: FBD

Do they need a bailout too?


46 posted on 03/09/2009 12:57:35 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Kakaze; FBD; DoughtyOne; FARS; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

47 posted on 03/09/2009 12:58:03 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FBD
We should be ready to accept their surrender. No less.
48 posted on 03/09/2009 1:04:21 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: max americana

I recall that persuasion manifesting itself by enforcing the policy of “if you’re not with us, you’re against us.” Clearly, it was an effective policy.

It’s just like Obama to throw away everything that’s been achieved, and at the same time poke the military in the eye while stabbing them in the back.


49 posted on 03/09/2009 1:12:39 AM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: PhilDragoo

Well, all I can say is, he had better not send Hillary for these talks - they’d probably cut off her head since she’s a female who dared go to school. Oh, wait - it will be the MODERATE Taliban - so maybe the’ll be so kind as to offer up a prayer after they cut off her head....

(This isn’t a set up for Hillary bashing - those people are not evolved, and could very well hurt her - and I, for one, would not want that to happen)


50 posted on 03/09/2009 1:13:28 AM PDT by canaan
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