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Early Show: Bush Ended Our Child’s Chance To Survive
FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/09/2009 5:42:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Yes, Bill Plante did acknowledge that the stem cell issue has “deep moral and political implications.” And yes, we did hear from a representative of the Family Research Council speaking in opposition to Pres. Obama’s decision to lift the Bush-era ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

But that said, was it right for the Early Show to air the most inflammatory possible accusation against Pres. Bush? Recounting the story of a young boy who died of a rare and fatal genetic disease Plante stated that the boy’s parents: “believe their son’s chance of survival ended when President George W. Bush signed an executive order in August, 2001, banning the federal government from funding embryonic stem cell research.”

As Plante spoke, CBS aired the image of a smiling [message: heartless?] Pres. Bush striding across the White House lawn

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: barackobama; earlyshow; georgewbush; stemcellresearch

1 posted on 03/09/2009 5:42:46 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Guess these clown-O-loon supporters have not clued in to the fact that stem cell experiments have consistently failed - and I believe, have produced some rather horrendous results.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 5:44:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Early Show: Bush ended our child’s chance of survival ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 5:44:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I believe that Bush ended my chance for immortality when he failed to federally fund my beer fueled groundhog hunt.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 5:45:38 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

every parent who loses a child tries to rationalize it by blaming someone or something

it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone else or be logical in any way

it also doesn’t have to be news

the people who did subject their children and loved ones to embryonic stem cell experiments- and lost them to terrible tumors- or have them still alive but terribly neurologically impaired

now that would be news


5 posted on 03/09/2009 5:46:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

(that the boy’s parents: “believe their son’s chance of survival ended when President George W. Bush signed an executive order in August, 2001, banning the federal government from funding embryonic stem cell research.”)

I believe I am better looking then Brad Pitt.(I am not in reality)
I believe I am a multimillionaire.(my bank account proves I am not)
The parents are free to beleive what ever they need to believe to get them through the night. Doesn’t make it right or important or of any interest to anyone else.


6 posted on 03/09/2009 5:49:51 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It is irresponsible for “journalists” to promote such ideas. Obviously, the cure for the child’s illness does not exist, stem cell research or not, at the present time.
If, in fact, the disease is rare, it will not be a high priority for research, unless there is someone who funds it and champions for it. And until this present administration decided to change the rules of economics, there is not funding for research for every existing condition.
The myth of embryonic research is that there is a miraculous cure, if only that research would be allowed. A cure that would be available overnight, by the way. It is a travesty that the proponents of embryonic research have been so dishonest.


7 posted on 03/09/2009 5:53:34 AM PDT by madinmadtown (BO stinks.....and I blame Oprah.)
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To: madinmadtown

let’s not forget to mention the Fact, that the only promising stem-cell research that has produced desirable effects is from Adult Stem Cells.

Eyeamok


8 posted on 03/09/2009 5:56:48 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

two questions tend to clarify theis debate:

1) would you kill a child to improve your life?
2) What does the “Embryo” in “Embryonic Stem Cell” refer to?

as an adde3mdum you might wanna include “Why all the emphasis on EMBRYONIC stem cells, and not ADULT stem cells? Why must one be funded and the other neglected?


9 posted on 03/09/2009 5:57:53 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Adult stem cells, not embryonic, are where the action is. These days a surgeon can obtain stem cells from a patient’s fat tissue and reinject it for regenerative or reconstructive therapy.


10 posted on 03/09/2009 5:58:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Da Coyote
>Guess these clown-O-loon supporters have not clued in to the fact that embryonic stem cell experiments have consistently failed - and I believe, have produced some rather horrendous results.

There, fixed it. Adult stem cells have done some remarkable things, without killing anyone.

11 posted on 03/09/2009 5:59:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Actually, the boy’s chances of survival became slim when he acquired the rare, fatal disease. The unfairness of blaming this on President Bush should be obvious to anyone.


12 posted on 03/09/2009 6:02:34 AM PDT by popdonnelly (It's fair to ask: did the voters elect a nut?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Henry Strongin-Goldberg’s death is a tragedy, a million abortions is a statistic.


13 posted on 03/09/2009 6:03:27 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Obama: The Kenyan Anthony Fremont)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If they are looking for sympathy from me, they got exactly the opposite.
14 posted on 03/09/2009 6:05:08 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Anarchy! Coming to a country near you.)
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To: popdonnelly
Bush is a genocidal murderer and should be prosecuted for this and war crimes and for the stock market crashing and for the deaths in the Gaza Strip and for the pilot whales that grounded themselves and for me stubbing my toe last week.

And for trying to kill Gaia, The Living Planet.

15 posted on 03/09/2009 6:05:47 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Obama: The Kenyan Anthony Fremont)
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To: All

The only thing Bush did was to prevent Federal money going to fund embryonic research. If embryonic stem cells were useful, research would continue without tax money.

Now for this bomb - I expect those women who are against “destruction” of embryos to be lining up and volunteering to be implanted so that the human embryo can develop to birth.


16 posted on 03/09/2009 6:08:58 AM PDT by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

Two sides of the embryonic stem cell issue - both EVIL.

One - false hope, as shown by the parent in this article.

Two - dehumanizing the “embryo” so that no blood guilt is assigned to aborting inconvenient pregnancies.


17 posted on 03/09/2009 6:11:40 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: All

My car got a flat tire the other day because of George Bush.


18 posted on 03/09/2009 6:15:14 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“the boy’s parents: “believe their son’s chance of survival ended when President George W. Bush signed an executive order in August, 2001, banning the federal government from funding embryonic stem cell research.”)”

In reality, Bush EXPANDED taxpayer-financed embryonic stem cell research—a fact acknowledged even by the NY Slimes.
“For a time, the ban stood in the way of taxpayer-financed embryonic stem cell research, because embryos are destroyed when stem cells are extracted from them. But in August 2001, in a careful compromise, President Bush opened the door a tiny crack, by ordering that tax dollars could be used for studies on a small number of lines, or colonies, of stem cells already extracted from embryos — so long as federal researchers did not do the extraction themselves.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/us/politics/09stem.html

Thus, the parents can believe whatever they want—just as flat-earthers are entitled to believe whatever they want. But it is negligent journalism to present such factually incorrect views as if they accurately depict the truth of the situation. The original BAN was established during the Clinton administration and Bush eased those restrictions. But the media has no particular interest in letting facts get in the way of a good Bush-bashing story.


19 posted on 03/09/2009 6:15:50 AM PDT by DrC
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

20 posted on 03/09/2009 6:17:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

21 posted on 03/09/2009 6:21:30 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Just in time for the executive order ‘Mr Death’ has signed to reverse the previous order. Lovely.


22 posted on 03/09/2009 6:23:12 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

You too? I wish to participate in your support group!


23 posted on 03/09/2009 6:24:26 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MrB

I have no idea how long a frozen embryo can be kept until it can no longer be used for implantation.

Isn’t allowing an embryo to degenerate in a freezer a kind of neglect? Neglegent homicide?


24 posted on 03/09/2009 6:24:39 AM PDT by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"President George W. Bush signed an executive order in August, 2001, banning the federal government from funding embryonic stem cell research"

That is a lie of omission. He banned funding for stem cell research other than for existing stem cell lines at the time he signed the bill. The law does not ban private funding, nor does it make private research on any embryonic stem cells illegal.

Not a perfect law, but a reasonable compromise. Though many want embryonic stem cell research and argue that the aborted "tissue" will otherwise go to waste and allowing research is much like organ donation after death, I don't want my taxes to pay for Nazi-style experimentation upon the unborn. This law walked the line between.

Obama's pen opens the gates. Exactly which gates he has been opening remains to be seen.

25 posted on 03/09/2009 6:27:43 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Hacklehead

I’m willing to donate almost all of my fat cells for research!


26 posted on 03/09/2009 6:31:00 AM PDT by brytlea (Proud descendent of Andrew Kent, Alamo Defender)
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To: popdonnelly

I suppose, technically, if it’s genetic the parent’s should be looking at themselves. I wouldn’t blame them, genes happen, but if they are so anxious to point fingers they should start there.


27 posted on 03/09/2009 6:32:00 AM PDT by brytlea (Proud descendent of Andrew Kent, Alamo Defender)
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To: Da Coyote

Since when have liberals let something as paltry as total, complete failure stop them?


28 posted on 03/09/2009 6:41:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: GBA

After invitro fertilization, the most promising empbryo is implanted in the woman. If the pergnancy is successful, there are several that will not be used and will stay frozen for a long time.

Do you have a suggestion concerning what should be done with left over embryos?


29 posted on 03/09/2009 6:44:46 AM PDT by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
From my files:

Embryonic stem cells have not cured or successfully treated a single patient. Contrast that with the more than 70 conditions that are treatable using non-embryonic stem cell therapies.

Note: Conditions treatable using non-embryonic stem cells are listed in this article.

Adult Stem Cells: It's Not Pie-in-the-Sky

Though embryonic stem cell research advocates euphemistically refer to the current state of research as an “early stage”, the unfortunate reality is the goal of embryonic stem cell therapies is, at this point, more accurately described as a pipe dream. No researcher is anywhere close to significant progress in developing practical embryonic stem cell therapies.

The only thing certain is that the cost of that research will be high. If embryonic stem cell research had real and imminent possibilities, private investors would be pouring capital into research hoping for real and imminent profits. Instead, venture capital firms are contributing to political efforts to get taxpayers to fund research. What the venture capitalists seem to be hoping for is that taxpayer funding of stem cell research will increase the value of their stakes in biotech companies. The venture capitalists can then cash out at a hefty profit, leaving taxpayers holding the bag of fruitless research.

Ron Reagan Wrong on Stem Cells

"Using embryonic stem cells, researchers at Stanford University who are working on a cure for Type I diabetes are producing new pancreatic islet cells that could be used in human transplants and could herald a cure for this devastating illness."

Actually, the latest research findings regarding embryonic stem cells are that they do not actually produce insulin in response to glucose changes in their environment and are NOT the pancreatic beta cells needed to treat diabetes. When placed in animals, the cells did not reverse diabetes; instead, they formed tumors.

"A Korean research team recently made history by using human embryonic stem cells to cure Parkinson's disease in rats."

That is what they claim, but the research is a long way from producing a safe and effective treatment for humans. On the one known occasion when earlier-stage (before 6 weeks) fetal tissue was used to try to treat a human Parkinson's patient, the tissue killed the patient by forming clumps of bone, skin and hair in the middle of his brain.

Moreover, animal trials with embryonic stem cells repeatedly kill many of the animals because of formation of brain tumors.

Meanwhile, the first clinical trial using a patient's own adult brain stem cells to treat Parkinson's has produced a lasting 80% reversal of symptoms, and wider human trials are being planned.

New Jersey Right to Life

A more recent article:

A report from Israel published in PLoS Medicine in late February that shows embryonic stem cells injected into patients can cause disabling if not deadly tumors.

The report describes a young boy with a fatal neuromuscular disease called ataxia telangiectasia, who was treated with embryonic stem cells. Within four years, he developed headaches and was found to have multiple tumors in his brain and spinal cord that genetically matched the female embryos used in his therapy.His experience is neither an anomaly nor a surprise, but one feared by many scientists.

Even as the future of embryonic stem cells has dimmed, adult stem cell research has scored major wins evident just in the past few months. These advances involve human stem cells that are not derived from human embryos. In fact, adult stem cells, which occur in small quantities in organs throughout the body for natural growth and repair, have become stars despite great skepticism early on. Though this is a more difficult task, scientists have learned to coax them to mature into many cell types, like brain and heart cells, in the laboratory.

The more ethically charged decision—less understood by the public and one Congress has avoided—involves the ban on creating human embryos in the laboratory solely for research purposes. In fact, President Clinton is the one who balked at allowing scientists to use government money for embryo creation and research on stem cells harvested from such embryos; Bush only affirmed the Clinton ban.

Why Embryonic Stem Cells are Obsolete

30 posted on 03/09/2009 6:56:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: brytlea

“I’m willing to donate almost all of my fat cells for research!”

Bill Plant doesn’t need any fat cells planted in his head.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Plant to say, my bad, when no miracle cures are found after killing babies.


31 posted on 03/09/2009 7:06:37 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Hacklehead

I seem to have recently heard that the same embryonic stem cells can be obtained from umbilical cords.
I know that does not interest the abortion freaks.


32 posted on 03/09/2009 7:15:11 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: GBA
"Obama's pen opens the gates. Exactly which gates he has been opening remains to be seen."

Those would be the gates to Hell.

33 posted on 03/09/2009 7:18:16 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: y6162

Killing babies?

I know, let’s ban invitro fertilization, and all this debate will end. At this time, that is the only source of embryos.


34 posted on 03/09/2009 7:24:06 AM PDT by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

No, I don’t. But my guess is that you do.


35 posted on 03/09/2009 8:09:01 AM PDT by GBA
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You know, I am getting really sick of these people in the media.

Bill Plante’s a jerk.


36 posted on 03/09/2009 8:10:13 AM PDT by sauropod (Mean Capitalist Bastard)
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To: Da Coyote

Bush never banned embronic stem cell research. Bush stopped federal funding of embronic stem cell research.


37 posted on 03/09/2009 8:33:39 AM PDT by DFG
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To: Pelagius of Asturias
Actually, I do. A decent burial. I'm not a fan of invitro for this reason. Regardless, I do not want my tax money funding embryonic stem cell research as Obama is sanctioning.

Where is it written that the government should be providing such funding? The government has exceeded its charter and needs to be de-funded and scaled back. Our problems are rooted in the idea that the government should be taking care of virtually everything. And now that we are on this slippery slope, we can't stop the slide or even believe that we shouldn't be on it.

No matter how fast we are falling, the slippery slope we are on leads to only one place unless we get off and get back to our original principles.

38 posted on 03/09/2009 8:56:09 AM PDT by GBA
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Plante stated that the boy’s parents: “believe their son’s chance of survival ended ....

So...someone's opinion is news?

I have a few opinions for you, Mr. Plante.

39 posted on 03/09/2009 9:01:56 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything youÂ’ve been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I remember Pres. Bush trying to explain about stem cells. Laura Bush even went on Larry King and tried, but that blockhead can’t understand anything. Adult stem cells hold the same promise of cures as embryonic ones do. It disgusts me how the media glazes over that. Obama is still campaigning against Bush.


41 posted on 03/09/2009 9:10:52 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Da Coyote

Didn’t Billy Boy originally sign this order and Bush extended it?


42 posted on 03/09/2009 10:01:49 AM PDT by Jaded (No act of kindness, no matter how small, ever goes unpunished. -THFG)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Plante stated that the boy’s parents: “believe their son’s chance of survival ended when President George W. Bush signed an executive order in August, 2001, banning the federal government from funding embryonic stem cell research.”

I am betting that these parents have voted all of their lives for politicians who are pro-abortion. Their votes have ended the chance of survival for millions and millions of human beings. Karma can be a wonderful thing.


43 posted on 03/09/2009 8:37:28 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

President Bush did not ban embryonic stem cell research. He limited government funds for it. Until 0bama, President Bush allowed more federal money to go into stem cell research than anybody else.

Besides, if there was true promise in it, the pharmaceutical companies would be plowing millions of their own research dollars into embryonic stem cell research. It is just plain wrong to create embryos for the purpose of killing them in research. Adult stem cells have had great promise and that is where research should go.


44 posted on 03/10/2009 6:15:55 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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