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No evidence of trade in Albanian organs
B92 ^ | 9 March 2009 | B92

Posted on 03/09/2009 12:06:46 PM PDT by nameless-fool

SKOPJE -- Skopje has no official information on the claims that there was trafficking of Albanians' organs through Macedonia during the Kosovo conflict.

Albanian language media in Kosovo recently picked up articles in Macedonian papers in Albanian that the organs of Kosovo Albanians listed missing were "harvested and sold to Russians by Serbs".

The Macedonian Interior Ministry (MUP) told the Beta news agency that this is the first time they have heard these allegations, and that there have been no demands for investigations.

A similar statement was given by the Macedonian Foreign Ministry as well.

The Albanian language daily Lajm, printed in Skopje, stated that there are suspicions that the bodies of 20 Kosovo Albanians are buried in a Skopje cemetery, which the administration of the Butel cemetery is denying, telling Beta that every funeral is registered in its book-keeping.

Serbian War Crimes Prosecution Spokesperson Bruno Vekarić said that the story is a political reaction to an investigation into KLA crimes against Kosovo's Serbs, adding that the prosecution is prepared to investigate that case as well if it is true.

“We do not deal with politics, we keep to the process matters. If all this is true, we are ready to investigate it to the end,” Vekarić said, adding that the Serbian prosecution expects the same stance from the Albanian prosecution when it comes to the Serb victims.

Serbia has opened a probe into the case of missing Kosovo Serbs after former Hague Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte wrote in her book that there were investigations of suspected organ harvesting operations in North Albania.

The case of the kidnapped Serbs who are believed to have been killed in northern Albania in 1999, after their vital organs were harvested, is also investigated by Council of Europe rapporteur Dick Marty, who is due in Belgrade at the end of the month.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bannedposter; dhimmwit; jihad; kosovo; ronlybonlyjones; serbia; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar

1 posted on 03/09/2009 12:06:47 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool

Albanian Organs?................

2 posted on 03/09/2009 12:10:54 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: nameless-fool

I’m not sure but is Hammond still making them in Indiana?


3 posted on 03/09/2009 12:14:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nameless-fool

The dark side of socialized medicine.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 12:15:14 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: nameless-fool

More Albanian (muslim) victimhood. Like the non existant mass graves, and the little Albanian (muzzie) boy who was drowned in the river by Serb thug-boys, which sparked a gang of will armed Armainian “victims” to march over and shoot at unarmed old Serb Baba’s and burn down their churches.


5 posted on 03/09/2009 12:34:11 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

As we’ve all seen, the story is that KLA thugs were harvesting the organs of captured Serbs for export.

Of course there’s no evidence of the opposite of reality occurring!


6 posted on 03/09/2009 1:17:46 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Like the non existant mass graves

What are you talking about? Please elaborate. What constitutes a "mass grave" to you?

7 posted on 03/09/2009 1:29:23 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: FormerLib
"As we’ve all seen, the story is that KLA thugs were harvesting the organs of captured Serbs for export."

Who has seen it? There have been accusations and and a ICTY investigation that yielded no results, just claims hoping to sell a book. Now it's time to investigate these claims as well, they are 2000 Albanians still missing.

8 posted on 03/09/2009 1:32:07 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool; All

So the fool is back...let me help you.

The Skopje govt propaganda machine in bed with the KLA is making a statement about organs - And Kim Il Sung proclaims that all children are well fed and healthy in North Korea.

That clears everything up /SARC/


9 posted on 03/09/2009 2:45:52 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: eleni121

Eleni,
do Skopians (?) beat their wives as well, unlike the Serbs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200831/posts

For the record, FYROM-ans are Orthodox Christians as well. Do they count? I know the Georgians are bad because they are sucking up to the mortal enemy—the East.

Talking about lies and denial:
“I asked him why he had had the famous Sarajevo National Library burned down. Given that he himself wanted to be known as a psychiatrist and a poet, was he afraid of books and their human and humanist truth?

Red-faced with anger, pounding the table, he claimed it was the Muslims themselves who had burned down the building from the inside.

I objected. I had seen the library in ruins: the damaged walls, the artillery scars. The building had been attacked from the outside.

No point in arguing - the pigheaded Karadzic denied it all.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/07/26/2008-07-26_nobel_laureate_elie_wiesel_remembers_rad.html?page=0
That’s Elie Wiesel recounting his meeting with Karadzic.


10 posted on 03/09/2009 5:00:06 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool

More nonsense for the newbie, thanks for the laugh.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 8:29:07 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: nameless-fool
Every paralegal knows that absence of evidence is no evidence of absence.
12 posted on 03/10/2009 8:38:06 AM PDT by DTA
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To: nameless-fool

You are a fool.

Like a open mouthed fish swimming through murky waters you swallow the liberal press lies that are fed to you like so many pellets.

Mr Wiesel is probably a decent man but like so many other decent and smart people he was swindled by Bernie Madoff as well as by the anti Semite Tudjman and the Muslims.

He says that he cannot forgive Madoff over the loss of all his funds - he trusted him you see - but a person like him of a higher sense of justice should be willing to accept the responsibility of being deceived by his Muslim and fascist friends.


13 posted on 03/10/2009 10:34:10 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: eleni121; Honorary Serb; Bokababe; Nathan Zachary; montyspython; DTA; FormerLib

Does anyone have details on this “Kosovo re-Christianization” plan I’ve been hearing about? I don’t have much in the way of details, but an old Serb-Canadian friend of mine, said that a large group among the millions in the Serb Diaspora— Serb-Canadians, Serb-Americans, Serbs in Britain, Serb-Australians— is organizing an effort to bring Christians from the Serb Diaspora back into Kosovo, to build churches there (throughout Kosovo) both in areas where churches were razed and otherwise.

It’s a peaceful effort, though obviously with armed guards in the more tense areas, but since the Serb diaspora in these countries still have citizenship rights in Kosovo (which is still within Serbia under international law), they have the right to build churches within Kosovo. So that’s what they’re doing. And since arrogant Britain (one of the anti-Christian leaders of the hate-Serb group in the West, right behind Bill Clinton himself), Canada and Australia (one of the early recognizers of Kosovo) are all Dhimmified already, I have no qualms about Serb Diaspora leaving them to help bring Christianity back to Kosovo. The Muslim Kosovars would be welcome in Dhimmified Britain, Canada and Australia anyway.

Also, word is it that this is one of the first examples of Serb-Croatian cooperation, since this organization (whatever its name) was founded in part by a Croat expat, who sees the threat of Muslim Dhimmitude within Kosovo— with participation also by Macedonians, Montenegrins and Bosnians.

Anyway, sounds like a great idea to me, but I haven’t been able to get further details on it. Anyone here know more about this effort?


14 posted on 03/11/2009 6:10:46 AM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth; Kolokotronis; kosta50

Pinging for input


15 posted on 03/11/2009 9:57:24 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: nameless-fool

Yeah, just as more information comes out that Organ Snatching DID occur, you find some BS article like that one!:

More than one organ snatching location?

2 March 2009

In Albania, in addition to the “yellow house”, there could be at least three more similar locations.

They are suspected to be sites where vital organs were taken from kidnapped Kosovo Serbs and other non-Albanians.

A B92 TV investigative team traveled to Albania on the basis of new evidence and information revealing that in, in addition to the “yellow house” described in former Hague Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte’s book, there were at least three similar locations.

Hundreds of Kosovo’s Serbs went missing during and after the 1999 war in the province. The Serbian War Crimes Prosecution is investigating claims that Kosovo Albanian KLA had taken them to northern Albania in order to remove their vital organs, later sold in the black market.

A broadcast based on the team’s investigation airs tonight, containing exclusive footage taken in Albania and interviews with doctors from the transplant division at Mother Theresa University Hospital in Tirana, where 75 patients were transferred in 1999 due to failed kidneys.

Looking at Del Ponte’s claims, the investigative team attempted to verify information from the War Crimes Prosecution that just as NATO was attacking Serbia several kidney transplants were conducted for Kosovo patients, with organs taken out of the kidnapped Serbs.

The team spoke with doctors from the Skopje University Hospital in Macedonia, where 70 patients were transferred from Kosovo during the same period.

Officials in Skopje say transplants did not take place at that time.

Nevertheless, in contrast to his Albanian colleagues, a Skopje nephrologists who spoke with the team said he believes Del Ponte’s claims.

The Serbian prosecution is also investigating whether the Hague Tribunal had destroyed material evidence found in the Albanian town of Burrel during a probe conducted in 2004.

In an exclusive interview, one of UNMIK’s investigators in Burrel said he was “taken aback” by such information.

The investigator will discuss the importance of this evidence, found in 2004 in the “yellow house”.

In addition to exclusive interviews and footage from Albania, the show contains information about 11 people suspected of having been murdered in the vicinity of the “yellow house” in central Albania after being kidnapped.


16 posted on 03/11/2009 10:34:55 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Evidence? Where is it? The slav doctor in FYROM believing the allegations? I thought the organs were sold, now we are supposed to believe that as 700,000 people were thrown out, with many beaten wounded and raped, Albania’s third world doctors found the time to perform organ transplants with ‘stolen’ Serbian organs on 70 Kosovo patients?

Since Serbia is asking for an investigation, Albanians should ask for one too. At least with Serbia there is a starting point to look at: are the Albanian victims buried in mass graves missing any organs?


17 posted on 03/11/2009 11:35:29 AM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool
Years before the Carla del Ponte revelation about Serbs kidnapped for their organs, Albania was already identified as both "a center for organ tourism" and for selling Albanian children & children from Eastern Europe for "parts":

SEE PORTAL: THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT DISCUSSES ALBANIAN ORGAN TRANSPLANTS

LINKS TO OTHER ORGAN TRAFFICKING STORIES, ALBANIA, KOSOVO

So the Albanians are now just trying to muddy the waters with these new allegations. It's BS!

18 posted on 03/11/2009 11:54:53 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Organ trading, like the one that goes on in virtually every country in the world? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=5go&q=illegal+organ+trading&btnG=Search

There is no need to muddy the waters for the serbs and Russians, it’s dark enough already. Are the Serbs, after being found guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity trying to smear others? Claiming victimhood is a Serbian trademark http://www.google.com/search?q=serbian+victimhood&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Serbs even claimed that genocide was committed against them in Kosovo.


19 posted on 03/11/2009 12:12:11 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool
"Organ trading, like the one that goes on in virtually every country in the world? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=5go&q=illegal+organ+trading&btnG=Search"

No, it goes on in "hubs" and Albania is one of them, which is why the Council of Europe singled it out. And unlike Albania, nmost don't involve ripping the organs out of living children. If you'd do that to your own kids, you'd do it to anyone!

Claiming victimhood is a Serbian trademark And "blaming the victim" is a "Muslim trademark". Gee, did that PR agency you & the Bosnian Muslims & Croats hired years ago, decide to recycle that for use on the Christian Serbs?

20 posted on 03/11/2009 12:25:47 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: nameless-fool
What is even more interesting is in locating that Merlino Interview, I found the following which explains how the interests of the UN & the PR agency for the Croats, Bosnian Muslims & Albanians -- Ruder Finn-- were intertwined. David Finn, Kofi Annan & Holbrook washed each others hands -- and dirty laundry.

Transatlantic Intelligencer

An article published in Wednesday’s New York Sun under the title “Advisor to Annan Triggers Concern” now reveals that David Finn, the chairman of Ruder Finn, has served as a “pro bono” advisor to Kofi Annan since he became UN Secretary General in 1997. Furthermore, the article reveals that Kofi Annan’s nephew Kobina was employed as a paid intern at Ruder Finn – “Kofi Annan asked David Finn if he would give some guidance to his nephew, Kobina Annan,” a Ruder Finn spokesperson is quoted as saying – and that “Ruder Finn's publishing arm is selling Mr. Annan's 2001 Nobel Peace Prize lecture as a hardcover book”. “At the same time that Ruder Finn employed Mr. Annan's nephew,” the article notes,

two senior Ruder Finn officials, Anne Glauber and Dena Merriam, who is Mr. Finn's daughter, were hired as outside contractors by the U.N. Development Program to revamp its communications office. They were paid $30,000 for two months' work, according to a UNDP spokesman, William Orme.

I do not want here to discuss James Harff’s assessment of the relative responsibility of the warring parties for the ravages of the Bosnian Civil War. But I will recall that it was in Bosnia that the UN essentially lost its innocence and, for better or for worse, abandoned the impartiality among warring parties that had hitherto been the sine qua non for UN peace-keeping operations. The most spectacular event in this process of transformation was the 1995 bombing of Bosnian Serb positions by NATO forces in connection with – though in fact not quite under – a UN mandate. The go ahead for the operation on the part of the UN bureaucracy – which was supposed to hold one of the two “keys” that had to be “turned” to initiate NATO air strikes in Bosnia – was given by none other than Kofi Annan in his capacity as then Under-Secretary General. Richard Holbrooke, in his notably self-aggrandizing account of the Bosnian conflict To End A War (New York: Random House, 1998), goes so far as to claim that it was thanks to this act of indulgence toward NATO that Annan would later become Secretary General: “in a sense Annan won the job on that day” (p. 103).

In his book Dubious Mandate: A Memoir of the UN in Bosnia, Summer 1995 (Durham and London: Duke, 1999), Phillip Corwin has written on the developments in question as follows:

If NATO wanted to declare war against one of the parties to the conflict in Bosnia, then it should have done so under a NATO flag, not under a UN flag. It was disingenuous to enter a country as a peacekeeping force and then to wage war against one of the parties.

Corwin was the UN’s chief political officer in Bosnia. In his book, he also recounts, incidentally, how a Bosnian government official “threatened his life” when he proposed to visit Srebrenica following its fall to Serb forces in July 1995. Shortly after the meeting in question, Corwin would be the target of sniper fire that, he claims, came from Bosnian government positions.

21 posted on 03/11/2009 12:38:39 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Christians don't massacre civilians, rape, burn Catholic churches or put people in concentrations camps.

At least have the decency not to hide behind your supposed Christianity, radical Muslims are having a field day with that. 150 Roman Catholic churches were destroyed in Croatia and Bosnia. Care to guess who destroyed them?

22 posted on 03/11/2009 12:41:18 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool
Radical Muslims already had "a field day" in Bosnia, long before that PR slime job started.

The first known lists of al Qaeda financiers track back to Bosnia circa 1988, years before the Bosnian war ever began.

And don't lecture me on what "a Christian" does or doesn't do to defend their homes and their families. You'd be surprised.

You make me laugh because in attempting to slime Serbs to defend Albanians, you always dig up Bosnia and Croatia and can't stick to the subject of Albanians. What are you, embarrassed at being able to defend Albanians?

23 posted on 03/11/2009 1:14:39 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: nameless-fool; All
HI Fool-—let me see if I can help-—

Albanians and terrorists go hand in hand and have for many years. The Christian community of the Balkans have resisted their putrid evil for hundreds of years. They will continue to do so no matter what the NWO/OPEC demands.

At their worst when working for the Nazis and their beloved Hitler - now albanians are blessed by the parastate fascist govt of turkey— another genocidal state.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=albanians+terrorists

24 posted on 03/11/2009 2:23:33 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: nameless-fool

Why is the barbed wire on the wrong side of that post, fool?

Because the photographer stepped inside the fenced area to take a picture of the people OUTSIDE!

LOL! Yes fool, that photo has been discredited years ago.


25 posted on 03/12/2009 2:49:03 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib
Yes fool, that photo has been discredited years ago.

All I know is that someone was bankrupted by a court for saying that.

"ITN and two of its reporters have won £375,000 in High Court libel damages from a Marxist magazine which claimed they had faked pictures of Bosnian Serb war crimes. Reporters Penny Marshall and Ian Williams were each awarded £150,000 over the Living Marxism story which called into question ITN's coverage of the Bosnian war.

The left-wing magazine was also ordered to pay £75,000 to ITN for libelling them in a February 1997 article.

ITN said it would pay its damages to the International Committee of the Red Cross to continue its humanitarian work with the victims of conflict on all sides... The article, written by German freelance Thomas Deichmann, asserted there was no barbed wire around the camp, which he said was a collection centre for refugees and not a prison.

He said the wire was actually around the news team, who were filming from a small enclosure next to the camp.P "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/677481.stm

Who's the fool now? Why don't you pay their lawyers to keep the case going if you are so sure?

26 posted on 03/12/2009 3:28:14 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool

So why is the barbed wire on the wrong side of that post, Bonly-fool?


27 posted on 03/12/2009 3:40:29 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Go ahead, sue the newspaper if you are so sure. I can’t convince you otherwise, so sue them for defamation of Serbs. Running concentration camps is a very serious charge.


28 posted on 03/12/2009 3:53:56 PM PDT by nameless-fool
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To: nameless-fool

Gee, imagine my surprise in your inability to answer the question, Bonly-boy.


29 posted on 03/12/2009 3:56:34 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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