Skip to comments.Policeman shot dead in Northern Ireland as province teeters on the brink
Posted on 03/09/2009 6:38:46 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
A policeman was murdered in Northern Ireland last night days after two British soldiers were killed by republicans.
The unnamed officer was shot dead in a patrol car in the Lismore Manor area of Craigavon, Co Armagh, 30 miles away from Belfast.
Some reports suggest the policeman was shot in the head.
The incident, which happened less than 48 hours after two British soldiers were shot dead by the Real IRA, has fuelled concerns that sectarianism has returned to Northern Ireland.
Last night a leading Northern Ireland politician warned that 'we were staring into the abyss'.
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Doesn’t bode well for that dude that’s trying to get the Jews and the Palestinians to make nice.
They're giving Ted Kennedy a few ha-ha moments before he descends to Hell.
The left is on the rise everywhere. Don’t forget that the IRA is a Marxist group. They’re all feeling emboldened now with one of their own in the White House.
Ireland has a very small Muslim (1%) population. However, it would be very easy for one or two of them to strategically make 5 or 6 kills and get the other 99% fighting again.
It makes one appear silly to blame everything on the Muslims.
Even if the Muslims ARE to blame?
Ahem, that's Sir Ted...
Oh the irony.
But they are not. Can we drop this silly argument now?
Well, the Brits were very accepting of his Nazi-loving father, too.
Are they? Over here, especially?
Why don’t the British just leave?
Maybe, if the RIRA is behind both attacks, it doesn’t take very many terrs to launch a small campaign.
Add in the financial problems in the Republic of Ireland and this could be very bad juju for the people of the region.
Because the majority in Northern Ireland don’t want to be in the Republic. There are a lot of reasons, including the role of the Roman Catholic Church in the government of the Republic.
That said, the North would have been much better off had the Protestants not treated the Catholics like slaves, keeping them from education, jobs, etc.
That has been changing, and I haven’t been keeping up with the news since the two sides seemed to have started working together.
The “real” IRA is an organization of Marxists (as someone else stated). Heck, so was the *real* real IRA.
Because the majority of people don’t want the British to leave, they wish to remain part of the United Kingdom. It was settled by Irish Nationalists and British Unionists in Northern Ireland in the Good Friday Agreement that Northern Ireland would remain part of the UK for as long as a majority wanted it to.
A fair and reasonable settlement I would have thought.
Well let’s not over exaggerate the situation in Northern Ireland, Catholics were not treated “like slaves”, I know because I am a Northern Ireland Catholic and I had a superb education and always had a job. However there was a fair amount of petty and bigoted discrimination but frankly the blacks of the southern United States were treated one hundred times worse than the Catholics of Northern Ireland.
As often is the case, career criminals are also hard up for work as the pickings get slimmer throughout the UK and Ireland. Certain sectors will “hide behind the flag” and return to tribalism and nationalism. The question now is, if the UK and Ireland are looking at multi-year recessions and skyrocketing unemployment, as well as an education system that is in shambles, how long will it take for radicalization to occur in the poorest areas?
The immigrant population of Brittania has conquered a larger area of Great Britain than the total of North Ireland, I don’t see either how or why the British on Great Britain will be willing to defend their rule in North Ireland under the current UK political and economic paradigm. If the UK cuts loose North Ireland right now they won’t be on the line for the pensions of the Baby Boomer government employees, the welfare rolls as the recession spreads to depression in the UK’s least economically competitive regions, and the ongoing costs of security in North Ireland.
Sort of the “IRA” was anti communist, that was in their charter, specifically anything or anyone having much to do with John Connoley (sp) then the “IRA” split and the whole thing sort dragged on and on.
I would hope the Good Friday Accords hold up to this latest bout of violence, it would be a pity if a handfull of hardcore nuts who just refuse to put their guns screw things up for hundreds of thousands of people.
I guess one “accomplishment” will have to be removed from Hillary’s resume.
“If the UK cuts loose North Ireland right now they wont be on the line for the pensions of the Baby Boomer government employees, the welfare rolls as the recession spreads to depression in the UKs least economically competitive regions, and the ongoing costs of security in North Ireland”
If Northern Ireland fears being cut loose, that is when things will become really ugly, this stuff has been brewing for years, and the UVF (or whatever they call themselves today) decides they have nothing to lose, they could easily erupt again.
The terrorists know that, and with the economy being the way it is, this is no small thing.
The Republic of Ireland from what I’ve read is far better shape then the regions around N. Ireland just due to the warfare, to re-engage in terrorism will only sink that area further into the mire and create even more ill will.
It was for a long time the case that Northern Ireland was economically more successful than the Republic although this was due more to the massive subvention the North received from the British exchequer than to any local entrepreneurship.
In the past ten years however the Republic’s economy boomed, it was the time of the Celtic Tiger and suddenly it was the south that looked wealthier than the North which got a little shabby looking and many people felt it was only a matter of time before people in the North decided to throw their lot in with the rest of the island.
Unfortunately in recent months the Republic’s economy has fallen off a cliff and they’re now in an awful economic mess and of course if the Troubles do kick off again in the North we could all be back to the future and it will be the ‘70s and ‘80s all over again.
I doubt then Orange lads will take it sitting down ...
The region I had in mind was the 10 counties (or 7?) that border N. Ireland, like Armaugh, it was a hot bed of the PIRA for years and no sane person would invest in an area that was basically policed by them so it remained poor AFAIK and still is.
And I agree, this would be a terrible time (not like a different time would be better though) for a reigniting of the Troubles.
It would seem to me though, that the PIRA would have every interest in stamping out the RIRA, several weapons caches and underground firing ranges were “discovered” that were used by the rira, so hopefully this can be nipped in the bud.
“It would seem to me though, that the PIRA would have every interest in stamping out the RIRA”
Well the RIRA have now killed a couple of soldiers and a policeman, I wouldn’t be surprised if their next target isn’t a member of Sinn Fein, as Sinn Fein are in government they are regarded as “British collaborators” by the RIRA and given that they tried to murder the two pizza guys for collaborating the Shinners could well be next.
At that point it all goes tits up, the Provos can’t hit back because they’re supposed to be on ceasefire and destroyed all their guns but equally there is no way that they would stand for being targeted by the “dissidents”. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the British government didn’t then just turn a blind eye and let them get on with it.
Guess “hick” Kennedy didn’t fix it after all.
I seriously doubt the pira would ever fully disarm, as in not likely at all.
And the politics there can be so convoluted, could be some in the pira privately think Adams and Friends hijacked the “movement” and they secretly condone the violence as a chance to capitalize on the economic conditions and the closing of the vast majority of the British military bases in N Ireland.
And if the rira wants to reignite things, they would target prominent Loyalists and thusly force Sein F into a box, decry the attacks and discredit themselves, or remain neutral and look neutered or privately applaud them in which case the British Govt will surely find that out.
It would be better for all involved in the attacks to be quitely dealt with, that would save people some serious grief as you pointed out.
I have no idea who is to blame. And i certainly wasn’t blaming the muzzie’s...just pointing out that it would be easy for them (or anyone) to get Ireland all lit up again.
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