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Border mayors insist drug violence is not spilling over
San Antonio Express News ^ | 3/10/09 | Gary Scharrer

Posted on 03/10/2009 6:36:26 AM PDT by laotzu

AUSTIN — Mexican drug cartel violence is not spilling into Texas, several frustrated border mayors told a state legislative committee Monday in an effort to dispel public perceptions that their communities are under siege.

“For me to believe that our cities are so endangered by all this violence that we need to send the military to the border is a knee-jerk reaction,” McAllen Mayor Richard Cortez told the House Border and Intergovernmental Affairs Committee.

Cortez, mayor for 19 years, said his daughter in San Antonio recently called to express apprehension about his re-election because of fears he might become an assassination target.

“That was confirmation that people are getting the wrong information,” Cortez said.

Border mayors worry that artificially inflamed fear will result in a demand for military troops, with images of danger and violence leading to reduced commerce. Any military support should be restricted to clerical and support roles that free up more Border Patrol agents and others for front-line duty, they told the committee.

But a disbelieving Rep. Dan Flynn, R-Canton, told the border mayors: “I'm at a loss to hear you all say that there's no violence coming over.”

Noting that Mexico had recently deployed 5,000 troops to Juarez, across the river from El Paso, Flynn suggested the Mexican military would push the cartels to the Texas side of the border.

“It's a violent war,” he said.

All of Texas is affected by what happens on the border, said committee Chairwoman Veronica Gonzales, D-McAllen. Last year, Texas exported $62.1 billion worth of goods to Mexico — far surpassing the second-biggest exporting state to Mexico, California with $20.5 billion.

“That's why we want to hear from you,” Gonzales told the mayors.

Demand for illegal drugs in the United States is fueling the drug trade, and various Mexican cartel lords are fighting for staging areas. But that battle is taking place in Mexican communities and not spreading to Texas, the border mayors emphasized.

“We have not seen any evidence” of violence spilling over, Brownsville Mayor Pat Ahumada said.

He blamed media hype for harming his community economically.

Hidalgo has been spared any kidnappings or murders, Mayor John David Franz said. His community expected as many as 700 square dancers for a weekend event but only 80 showed up after the U.S. State Department issued a travel advisory.

“There is a cloud of fear hanging over us,” he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: border; borderwar; drugcartel; drugcartels; druggangs; drugwarconsequences; gangs; illicitdrugs; liars; mexico; organizedcrime; terrorism; texas; thankprohibition; zetas
Nothing to worry about here. Its all under control.
Besides, this is really more of an Arizona problem.

Demand for illegal drugs in the United States is fueling the drug trade

Its not their fault for selling drugs, its our fault for buying them.

Its not their fault for buying and using guns, it our fault for selling them.

1 posted on 03/10/2009 6:36:27 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

There are no sharks here in Amity.


2 posted on 03/10/2009 6:39:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 50 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: laotzu

There’s been a MSM blackout on the border war. Anyone here seen stats/reports from north of the Rio Grande on violence seepage? I recall reading here that Phoenix now leads the US in kidnappings...


3 posted on 03/10/2009 6:46:30 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: laotzu

....so those kidnap stories about Arizona are all wrong?

Oh, Phoenix doesn’t count because it isn’t on the border.


4 posted on 03/10/2009 6:48:05 AM PDT by cookcounty (President Obama's 3 favorite words: "Crisis" "Catastrophe" "Inherited".)
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To: null and void

“There are no sharks here in Amity.”

That is the best quote on naked self-interest that I have seen.


5 posted on 03/10/2009 6:48:58 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: null and void


"I can assure you there is no illegal drug activity
here near the Texas-Mexico border. Nor is there
any danger from violent Mexican drug gangs."

6 posted on 03/10/2009 6:49:08 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: null and void

Great! Let’s go for a swim...


7 posted on 03/10/2009 6:49:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: laotzu

Whether the violence is “spilling over” or not, they should build the dang wall. It’s a shovel-ready project. Put Americans to work. Guard the border — why is this so difficult?


8 posted on 03/10/2009 6:50:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: TADSLOS

We’re gonna need a bigger boat...


9 posted on 03/10/2009 6:51:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 50 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: laotzu

“We have not seen any evidence” of violence spilling over."

10 posted on 03/10/2009 6:51:40 AM PDT by maggief
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To: laotzu

Okey dokey then we can station the NG along a line some 30 miles north of the border and post “No Man’s Land” signs. Let the border mayors deal with whatever comes their way. We wouldn’t want to interfer with crossings by animal or criminal.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 6:54:22 AM PDT by bgill
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To: laotzu
This seems to be the latest talking points of the pro illegal aliens lobby - it is our fault, not theirs.

This makes a case for protecting our borders and deporting illegal aliens. Mexico is an enemy nation.

13 posted on 03/10/2009 6:55:43 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: maggief

Sgt Schultz.....that’s perfect. Har!!


14 posted on 03/10/2009 6:57:53 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu; SoCalPol

I’ve not heard Mayor Sanders (the mayor of San Diego) say the violence hasn’t spilled across the border. In fact, I’d say just the opposite. We know it has and we have the headless bodies to prove it!


15 posted on 03/10/2009 7:00:26 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO!)
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To: laotzu
Why do I think they are all Dems beholden to their party platform or no money and support for future runs? Besides, the problem is spread out... at least 150 cities now have Mx Drug Cartels so we can understand why they see no problem.

I found it interesting several years ago that what ever small town I stumbled upon during an odyssey, there was one Mexican and one Chinese restaurant. How they found the town unless it was organized was beyond me. In each restaurant there was ONE person who spoke poor English and a bunch of non English speaking, presumably illegal future Democrat voters. The Mx drug cartels explains one aspect, so what's with the Chinese?

16 posted on 03/10/2009 7:01:36 AM PDT by Tuketu (Lack of Legislative & WH control doesn't mean the GOP can't tell the Dims, we'll undo all Socialism)
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To: Tuketu
there was one Mexican and one Chinese restaurant...so what's with the Chinese?

With six kilos, you get egg roll.

17 posted on 03/10/2009 7:13:53 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu; null and void; All

Anyone just watch Megan Kelly hand Juan Valdez his azz on FNC just now? LOL!


18 posted on 03/10/2009 7:23:32 AM PDT by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: TADSLOS

Err, Juan Hernandez, I mean. The other guy picks my coffee beans and bundles up coke.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 7:25:25 AM PDT by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: laotzu

“Mexican drug cartel violence is not spilling into Texas”

And there were no American’s at the Baghdad Airport either.


20 posted on 03/10/2009 7:27:57 AM PDT by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yup. A sight to behold...


21 posted on 03/10/2009 7:32:07 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 50 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: NativeNewYorker; AuntB
Anyone here seen stats/reports from north of the Rio Grande on violence seepage?

AuntB has good sources on info concerning Mexico.

22 posted on 03/10/2009 7:43:12 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: MeekOneGOP; ValerieTexas; txhurl; basil; SwinneySwitch; austinaero; lormand; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ..
My answer
23 posted on 03/10/2009 8:56:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
There may be a MSM blackout in your area, but the news stories you refer to were published by MSM. They are likely the same news stories referred to by the Brownsville, Texas mayor in the article above:

"“We have not seen any evidence” of violence spilling over, Brownsville Mayor Pat Ahumada said."

"He blamed media hype for harming his community economically."

24 posted on 03/10/2009 9:17:48 AM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: laotzu

Well Bush kow towed to Mexico, now Obama does and so do all those poor Hispanic American Mayors in the SW because inwardly, they fear for their own lives. Too bad they don’t want to protect our citizens from these thugs.


25 posted on 03/10/2009 11:56:29 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: laotzu

Wonder how the grenade tossed into the Pharr bar got here, alcaldes?


26 posted on 03/10/2009 12:26:46 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: laotzu; AuntB; BGHater; nbhunt; La Lydia; jafojeffsurf; B.O. Plenty; HiJinx; skeptoid; ...

Follow the money ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


27 posted on 03/10/2009 12:33:47 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexas - beyond your expectations.)
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To: laotzu

I work in the Valley 4 -5 days a month and have been doing this for 3 or 4 years now. I can tell there is no violence spilling over. I don’t know where that’s coming from or why. It’s just not true.


28 posted on 03/10/2009 12:49:54 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: brushcop

Trying to answer my pings before I go on a very long vacation.

“Hidalgo has been spared any kidnappings or murders, Mayor John David Franz said.”

Franz is a LIAR. They’re hiding rich aliens from Mexico and probably getting $$$ from the Cartels.

Just hit google, here’s just a few:

Dec 18, 2006 ... Since early 2004, there have been 78 kidnappings in Hidalgo County ... Press accounts of murders and kidnappings are an important indicator. ..

Jul 1, 2008 ... Family investigated in Pharr man’s murder[kidnapping, torture, South Texas/Mexico] ... relatives told them he was a Burger King manager in Hidalgo and McAllen.
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2039200/posts

leaves family with many questions | Oakland Tribune ...
Oct 24, 2003 ... U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Texas, Michael Shelby, ... While at home in Sabinas Hidalgo, located 100 miles from the U.S. border at ... Villarreal’s possible murder and kidnapping investigation is being ...
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20031024/ai_n14563102


29 posted on 03/10/2009 12:50:10 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: CAluvdubya

Last name of the Mayor in TX gives you the answer


30 posted on 03/10/2009 3:55:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: laotzu; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


31 posted on 03/10/2009 5:21:37 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: All

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

Travel Alert

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
This information is current as of today, Tue Mar 10 2009 17:59:57 GMT-0700 (PDT).

Mexico

February 20, 2009

This Travel Alert updates security information for U.S. citizens traveling and living in Mexico. It supersedes the Travel Alert for Mexico dated October 15, 2008, and expires on August 20, 2009.

While millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year (including thousands who cross the land border every day for study, tourism or business), violence in the country has increased recently. It is imperative that travelers understand the risks of travel to Mexico, how best to avoid dangerous situations, and whom to contact if one becomes a crime victim. Common-sense precautions such as visiting only legitimate business and tourist areas during daylight hours, and avoiding areas where prostitution and drug dealing might occur, can help ensure that travel to Mexico is safe and enjoyable.

Crime and Violence Throughout Mexico

The greatest increase in violence has occurred near the U.S. border. However, U.S. citizens traveling throughout Mexico should exercise caution in unfamiliar areas and be aware of their surroundings at all times. Mexican and foreign bystanders have been injured or killed in violent attacks in cities across the country, demonstrating the heightened risk of violence in public places. In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens have been kidnapped across Mexico. Many of these cases remain unresolved. U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican officials and the nearest American consulate or the Embassy as soon as possible, and should consider returning to the United States.

U.S. citizens should make every attempt to travel on main roads during daylight hours, particularly the toll (”cuota”) roads, which generally are more secure. Occasionally, the U.S. Embassy and consulates advise their employees as well as private U.S. citizens to avoid certain areas, abstain from driving on certain roads because of dangerous conditions or criminal activity, or recommend driving during daylight hours only. When warranted, U.S. government employees are restricted from traveling to or within parts of Mexico without prior approval from their supervisors. When this happens, the Embassy or the affected consulate will alert the local U.S. citizen Warden network and post the information on their respective websites, indicating the nature of the concern and the expected time period for which the restriction will remain in place. U.S. citizen visitors are encouraged to stay in the well-known tourist areas of the cities. Travelers should leave their itinerary with a friend or family member not traveling with them, avoid traveling alone, and should check with their cellular provider prior to departure to confirm that their cell phone is capable of roaming on GSM or 3G international networks. Do not display expensive-looking jewelry, large amounts of money, or other valuable items.

Violence Along the U.S. - Mexico Border

Mexican drug cartels are engaged in an increasingly violent conflict - both among themselves and with Mexican security services - for control of narcotics trafficking routes along the U.S.-Mexico border. In order to combat violence, the government of Mexico has deployed troops in various parts of the country. U.S. citizens should cooperate fully with official checkpoints when traveling on Mexican highways.

Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades. Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez. During some of these incidents, U.S. citizens have been trapped and temporarily prevented from leaving the area. The U.S. Mission in Mexico currently restricts non-essential travel to the state of Durango and all parts of the state of Coahuila south of Mexican Highways 25 and 22 and the Alamos River for U.S. government employees assigned to Mexico. This restriction was implemented in light of the recent increase in assaults, murders, and kidnappings in those two states. The situation in northern Mexico remains fluid; the location and timing of future armed engagements cannot be predicted.

A number of areas along the border are experiencing rapid growth in the rates of many types of crime. Robberies, homicides, petty thefts, and carjackings have all increased over the last year across Mexico generally, with notable spikes in Tijuana and northern Baja California. Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana and Nogales are among the cities which have recently experienced public shootouts during daylight hours in shopping centers and other public venues. Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, and Tijuana.

The situation in Ciudad Juarez is of special concern. Mexican authorities report that more than 1,800 people have been killed in the city since January 2008. Additionally, this city of 1.6 million people experienced more than 17,000 car thefts and 1,650 carjackings in 2008. U.S. citizens should pay close attention to their surroundings while traveling in Ciudad Juarez, avoid isolated locations during late night and early morning hours, and remain alert to news reports. A recent series of muggings near the U.S. Consulate General in Ciudad Juarez targeted applicants for U.S. visas. Visa and other service seekers visiting the Consulate are encouraged to make arrangements to pay for those services using a non-cash method.

U.S. citizens are urged to be alert to safety and security concerns when visiting the border region. Criminals are armed with a wide array of sophisticated weapons. In some cases, assailants have worn full or partial police or military uniforms and have used vehicles that resemble police vehicles. While most crime victims are Mexican citizens, the uncertain security situation poses serious risks for U.S. citizens as well. U.S. citizen victims of crime in Mexico are urged to contact the consular section of the nearest U.S. consulate or Embassy for advice and assistance. Contact information is provided at the end of this message.

Demonstrations and Large Public Gatherings

Demonstrations occur frequently throughout Mexico and usually are peaceful. However, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and escalate to violence unexpectedly. Violent demonstrations have resulted in deaths, including that of an American citizen in Oaxaca in 2006. In 2008, a Mexican Independence Day celebration was the target of a violent attack. During demonstrations or law enforcement operations, U.S. citizens are advised to remain in their homes or hotels, avoid large crowds, and avoid the downtown and surrounding areas. Since the timing and routes of scheduled marches and demonstrations are always subject to change, U.S. citizens should monitor local media sources for new developments and exercise extreme caution while within the vicinity of protests. The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. U.S. citizens are therefore advised to avoid participating in demonstrations or other activities that might be deemed political by Mexican authorities. As is always the case in any large gathering, U.S. citizens should remain alert to their surroundings.

Further Information

For more detailed information on staying safe in Mexico, please see the Mexico Country Specific Information at: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html. Information on security and travel to popular tourist destinations is also provided in the publication: “Spring Break in Mexico- Know Before You Go!!” at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/spring_break_mexico/spring_break_mexico_2812.html For the latest security information, U.S. citizens traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department’s internet web site at http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution, Travel Warnings, and Travel Alerts can be found. Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States and canada, or, for callers from Mexico, a regular toll line at 001-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). American citizens traveling or residing overseas are encouraged to register with the appropriate U.S. Embassy or Consulate on the State Department’s travel registration website at https://travelregistration.state.gov/.

For any emergencies involving U.S. citizens in Mexico, please contact the closest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. The U.S. Embassy is located in Mexico City at Paseo de la Reforma 305, Colonia Cuauhtemoc, telephone from the United States: 011-52-55-5080-2000; telephone within Mexico City: 5080-2000; telephone long distance within Mexico 01-55-5080-2000. You may also contact the Embassy by e-mail at: ccs@usembassy.net.mx. The Embassy’s internet address is http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/.

Consulates:

Ciudad Juarez: Paseo de la Victoria 3650, tel. (52)(656) 227-3000. http://ciudadjuarez.usconsulate.gov.
Guadalajara: Progreso 175, telephone (52)(333) 268-2100. http://guadalajara.usconsulate.gov/.
Hermosillo: Avenida Monterrey 141, telephone (52)(662) 289-3500. http://hermosillo.usconsulate.gov.
Matamoros: Avenida Primera 2002, telephone (52)(868) 812-4402. http://matamoros.usconsulate.gov.
Merida: Calle 60 no. 338 k, telephone (52)(999) 942-5700. http://merida.usconsulate.gov.
Monterrey: Avenida Constitucion 411 Poniente, telephone (52)(818) 047-3100. http://monterrey.usconsulate.gov.
Nogales: Calle San Jose, Nogales, Sonora, telephone (52)(631) 311-8150. http://nogales.usconsulate.gov.
Nuevo Laredo: Calle Allende 3330, col. Jardin, telephone (52)(867) 714-0512. http://nuevolaredo.usconsulate.gov/.
Tijuana: Tapachula 96, telephone (52)(664) 622-7400. http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/service.html.

Consular Agencies:

Acapulco: Hotel Continental Emporio, Costera Miguel Aleman 121 - local 14, telephone (52)(744) 484-0300 or (52)(744) 469-0556.
Cabo San Lucas: Blvd. Marina local c-4, Plaza Nautica, col. Centro, telephone (52)(624) 143-3566.
Cancún: Plaza Caracol two, second level, no. 320-323, Boulevard Kukulcan, km. 8.5, Zona Hotelera, telephone (52)(998) 883-0272.
Ciudad Acuña: Ocampo # 305, col. Centro, telephone (52)(877) 772-8661
Cozumel: Plaza Villa Mar en el Centro, Plaza Principal, (Parque Juárez between Melgar and 5th ave.) 2nd floor, locales #8 and 9, telephone (52)(987) 872-4574.
Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo: Hotel Fontan, Blvd. Ixtapa, telephone (52)(755) 553-2100.
Mazatlán: Hotel Playa Mazatlán, Playa Gaviotas #202, Zona Dorada, telephone (52)(669) 916-5889.
Oaxaca: Macedonio Alcalá no. 407, interior 20, telephone (52)(951) 514-3054 (52)(951) 516-2853.
Piedras Negras: Abasolo #211, Zona Centro, Piedras Negras, Coah., Tel. (878) 782-5586.
Playa del Carmen: “The Palapa,” Calle 1 Sur, between Avenida 15 and Avenida 20, telephone (52)(984) 873-0303.
Puerto Vallarta: Paradise Plaza, Paseo de los Cocoteros #1, Local #4, Interior #17, Nuevo Vallarta, Nayarit, telephone (52)(322) 222-0069.
Reynosa: Calle Monterrey #390, Esq. Sinaloa, Colonia Rodríguez, telephone: (52)(899) 923 - 9331
San Luis Potosí: Edificio “Las Terrazas”, Avenida Venustiano Carranza 2076-41, Col. Polanco, telephone: (52)(444) 811-7802/7803.
San Miguel de Allende: Dr. Hernandez Macias #72, telephone (52)(415) 152-2357 or (52)(415) 152-0068.


32 posted on 03/10/2009 6:00:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: laotzu

John Cook, mayor of El Paso has been pretty quiet. Several years ago, you don’t want to venture south of I-10 on Schuster, or anywhere near the ASARCO smelter. Gunshots from south of the border were common place in the 90’s. I would imagine it is considerably worse now.


33 posted on 03/10/2009 9:35:55 PM PDT by wjcsux (0bama- Clinton's dishonesty, Carter's incompetence, and LBJ's arrogance.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

haha! :)

bump! bump! bump!


34 posted on 03/10/2009 10:06:06 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: DaGman

“I can tell there is no violence spilling over. I don’t know where that’s coming from or why. It’s just not true.”

Zeta gets life[South Texas/Mexico]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2201097/posts

Mexico, U.S.: A New Weapon in the Cartel Arsenal

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2183376/posts


35 posted on 03/11/2009 7:30:43 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexas - beyond your expectations.)
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To: wjcsux

Remember when Mexican gangs were robbing trains and brained a couple of FBI agents?


36 posted on 03/11/2009 7:36:12 AM PDT by csmusaret (You can't spell Democrat without R-A-T.)
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