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Intelligence pick wants national ID
WND ^ | 3-10-09 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 03/10/2009 12:20:14 PM PDT by hope

JERUSALEM – Following the 9/11 attacks, President Obama's nominee for a top intelligence post advocated that to effectively combat terrorism, the U.S. government should implement a national identity system, "so we better know who is who."

In testimony before the 9/11 commission, Charles "Chas" Freeman, the U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War, also recommended conducting the war on terrorism primary as a law enforcement effort.

Freeman is slated to head the U.S. National Intelligence Council, or NIC, a crucial component of the U.S. intelligence apparatus. The NIC serves as the center for midterm and long-term strategic thinking within the American intelligence community. It provides intelligence briefs for Obama and key U.S. agencies and produces reports that help determine American policy on crucial issues, such as Iran's nuclear program.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bhonic; chasfreeman; democrats; immigration; lping; nationalid; obama; papersplease; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 03/10/2009 12:20:15 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope

paypaz pleez?


2 posted on 03/10/2009 12:22:11 PM PDT by Borges
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To: hope

3 posted on 03/10/2009 12:22:14 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: hope

Freeman can kiss my patootie . . . .


4 posted on 03/10/2009 12:22:20 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: hope
I would rather hand my FBI file to Hillary than have Obama issue me an ID card.


5 posted on 03/10/2009 12:24:25 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...



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6 posted on 03/10/2009 12:25:15 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: hope

Let me guess — she wants to put a tattoo on peoples’ hands or foreheads.


7 posted on 03/10/2009 12:25:36 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (I am inconsolate over the death of our country.)
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To: hope
This is from the same administration that is against E-Verify so we aren't even allowed to see who is here legally and who isn't, but they want to issue cards to everyone else. I suppose it will be illegal to not hire Juan Valdez just because he doesn't have one of these cards - or else they will be handed out to everyone, citizen, legal alien and illegal, without any indication as to which group they belong to.

Time to look at som LOL cats because my blood pressure is too high from Obummer and gang.

8 posted on 03/10/2009 12:25:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: hope
"conducting the war on terrorism primar(il)y as a law enforcement effort"

So they can have the police arrest people like; Christians, Republicans, Caucasian Males, NRA Members .....

Stuff like that.

Dems want national ID cards, "So we know who is who". Will we also have to wear a distinctive patch above our left breast pocket (an elephant, a cross, Casper the Ghost, a gun...)???!

9 posted on 03/10/2009 12:27:53 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: ChicagahAl

Can’t require them when voting though. Oh no! That will not be allowed.


10 posted on 03/10/2009 12:29:56 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: hope
"Intelligence pick wants national ID "

Of course he does. You expected something less?

11 posted on 03/10/2009 12:30:09 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: hope

When hell freezes over. FUBO, I have had about enough of these Hitler like tactics.


12 posted on 03/10/2009 12:30:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: hope

Enforce existing law you idiots. Did you guys ever go to school??????????


13 posted on 03/10/2009 12:31:12 PM PDT by RC2
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To: hope
I used to regularly post these links to Real ID threads - especially when states began balking en-masse at the idea of a Federally mandated electronically trackable ID - and when the Feds also were planning to FORCE the states to eat the cost of issuing them.

Many people on this forum used to simply love the idea of a National ID card as the way to deal with the illegal immigration problem....while on the flipside, many of us railed against the idea as a prelude to Federalized monitoring of the LEGAL citizenry's every move, and that such an ID would do absolutely ZILCH to combat illegal immigration.

Wonder how some of those same folks feel now that the Obama Administration is championing this idea?

FYI - the links are a bit dated now and some may no longer work, as it has been well over a year since I compliled this list.

Real ID Act Passed - The End Of America

A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform (Ron Paul)

National ID Cards Won't Stop Terrorism or Illegal Immigration (Ron Paul)

Well, at least the ACLU is getting this one right:
A Real Nightmare - http://www.realnightmare.org/

Real ID Act - A glimpse into the future of America (YouTube)

Real ID DOES NOT prohibit states from issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants (California still considering it)

DHS to Outsource Real ID Data to Third Party company

National ID Party - Republicans betray their federalist principles again(OpinionJournal)

Reason - The Beast is Back - "Real I.D." for an all too real world

Is 'mark of the beast' in Real ID Act?

Old foes unite against Real ID (Waterbury Republican-American)

'Real ID' Act Could Help ID Thieves

Georgia Senate Balks at National ID Card

Maine Joint Resolution refusing to implement Real ID Act

Idaho Second State To Reject Real ID Act

Montana Governor says "hell no" to Real ID Act

Missouri Objects to Real ID Requirements

Washington passes bill rejecting terms of Real ID

Arkansas urges Congress to "..add Critical Privacy and Civil Liberty Safeguards to the REAL ID Act"


14 posted on 03/10/2009 12:31:41 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Military_Intelligence_Systems_in_Northern_Ireland


15 posted on 03/10/2009 12:33:17 PM PDT by 82ndABNOfficer
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To: TexasRepublic
Let me guess — she wants to put a tattoo on peoples’ hands or foreheads.

It was the left forearm!

16 posted on 03/10/2009 12:39:32 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: hope

Will we have to show a government issued photo ID in order to VOTE? ACORN will not be happy about that! Will it be different from a passport ir “Green Card”? I travel with a passport for most of my life.


17 posted on 03/10/2009 12:39:49 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: hope

Won’t this make it easier to steal identities?


18 posted on 03/10/2009 12:40:14 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: hope
This guy is BAD NEWS.

We don't need big government, Jack-Booted-Thug bureaucrats like hime, Obama, and their ilk to know WHO's Who in America.

it is their type of Fascism that is more dangerous from within, than almost any threat from without.

Freeman (a liberal Jew?) is friends with, and DIRTY with the money of, our enemies/potential enemies (China, Saudis, Hamas, etc.), and goes as far as saying the Chinese did not go far enough, or act quick enough to quash the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

Add to that, the fact that he bad mouths one of best allies in the world - Israel.

If his idea of using extreme force against protesting citizens is coupled with his other extreme, I would say, anti-American/anti-FREEDOM views, as well as leading a vital US intelligence agency, and promoting the establishment of identity cards (show us your papers) - we Patriots are entirely CORRECT to prepare for the worst by stocking up on supplies, guns, ammunition, magazines, etc.

Keep your powder dry ladies and gents.

19 posted on 03/10/2009 12:42:45 PM PDT by DocH (The WAR on our RIGHTS must NOT go unanswered - Keep your powder dry)
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To: hope
On the one hand, this would be fun to play with (though I'd bet that violation of any nation ID scheme would be a felony of some sort). On the other hand, I probably have a de facto national ID already.
20 posted on 03/10/2009 12:53:47 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: hope
Charles "Chas" Freeman

How ironic.

21 posted on 03/10/2009 12:57:19 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: hope

Obama won’t be able to get one since he is an illegal alien.


22 posted on 03/10/2009 1:03:42 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: bamahead
I have no problem with this...of course I, like everyone else who has ever held a job in America, have had a National ID card since I was 16 years old...it's called a Social Security card.

Of course, President Hussein might have a problem since he would FINALLY have to come up with a Birth Certificate to apply. LOL

23 posted on 03/10/2009 1:05:33 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: hope

They only want this National ID to keep tabs on POLITICAL enemies. If they wan to know who’s who in our country SECURE THE BORDER.


24 posted on 03/10/2009 1:22:26 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: hope
JERUSALEM – Following the 9/11 attacks, President Obama's nominee for a top intelligence post advocated that to effectively combat terrorism, the U.S. government should implement a national identity system, "so we better know who is who."

I'm going to move to Mexico and come back here. They don't ask Mexican nationals for their papers. It doesn't pay to be a citizen of this country anymore. The government sees the populace as a paycheck and nothing more.

25 posted on 03/10/2009 1:29:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: hope
I already have two "national IDs":

1. Social Security card
2. My US passport

26 posted on 03/10/2009 1:30:35 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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great sources!!


27 posted on 03/10/2009 1:52:44 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: hope

Blah, blah, blah. House to house searches for guns and drugs would reduce crime. With our current constitution, that ain’t gonna happen. At least, not legally.

That is what people forget when they look at the individual freedoms taken away in England when they say we are headed down the same path. England’s government does not have to deal with the restrictions of our constitution.


28 posted on 03/10/2009 1:57:46 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Constitution Day

Passport I can understand but the “Greatest Generation” should of never allowed the social security sham to happen.


29 posted on 03/10/2009 2:01:05 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: hope

Why doesn’t Obama just appoint Osama to a security post and be done with it?


30 posted on 03/10/2009 2:50:57 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: hope

Freeman has withdrawn.


31 posted on 03/10/2009 2:51:52 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD
Here.
32 posted on 03/10/2009 2:53:48 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: hope; nathanbedford

From the guy who thinks the Tiananmen Massacre should have been bigger and sooner.


33 posted on 03/10/2009 2:58:30 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: 1066AD

WAHOO!!!


34 posted on 03/10/2009 2:58:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: 1066AD
Try this link.
36 posted on 03/10/2009 3:02:41 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: hope

I am who I say I am. Just like 0bama. I don’t have to prove anything to anybody. /s


37 posted on 03/10/2009 3:30:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: bamahead

Yup. It’s funny how different these threads are now that Zero is in charge. There are a lot of alleged “conservatives” on this site who are downright scary in their support of the police state as long as they thing “their” guys are holding the whip.


38 posted on 03/10/2009 4:39:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: 1066AD

One down...


39 posted on 03/10/2009 4:57:34 PM PDT by hope (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: hope
JERUSALEM – Following the 9/11 attacks, President Obama's nominee for a top intelligence post advocated that to effectively combat terrorism, the U.S. government should implement a national identity system, "so we better know who is who."

Am I missing something? Would that not destroy the demokkkrat vote manufacturing system??

40 posted on 03/10/2009 6:42:17 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: WellyP
Will we have to show a government issued photo ID in order to VOTE? ACORN will not be happy about that!

Sure they will.

Who do you think would be responsible for deciding who is issued one?

41 posted on 03/10/2009 6:55:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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