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Handgun's Color Leads to Lawsuit (Alan Gura from D.C. v. Heller strikes again!)
Washington Post ^ | March 10, 2009 | Martin Weil

Posted on 03/10/2009 8:06:23 PM PDT by neverdem

A D.C. woman filed suit in U.S. District Court yesterday, claiming that the city would not let her register a pistol because of its color.

Tracey A. Hanson argued that her application to register a .45-caliber semiautomatic was denied because the gun is not on the California Safe Handgun Roster, which is the standard in the city.

Hanson tried to register a two-tone, stainless steel/black pistol, according to the suit. But the list has that model in olive drab green, dark earth or black, not in two-tone, stainless/black, the suit asserts...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alangura; banglist; gura; hanson; heller
Just when you think the left couldn't be more stupid, they outdo themelves.
1 posted on 03/10/2009 8:06:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I have a dream that someday we will judge the handgun by the content of its caliber, and not the color(s) of its finish.


2 posted on 03/10/2009 8:08:02 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: neverdem

It is good to see Gura is not letting DC get away with some of the nonsense they have been pulling since 1975.


3 posted on 03/10/2009 8:09:11 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: neverdem

They’re really reaching, here.

Out of desperation.....


4 posted on 03/10/2009 8:09:44 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: coloradan

ROFLMAO! My wife too. She can’t stop.


5 posted on 03/10/2009 8:11:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: coloradan

Oh, my goodness that is good. That is really good!


6 posted on 03/10/2009 8:12:18 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: neverdem

“We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and
the first step is necessarily — given the political
realities — going to be very modest .
So then we’ll have to start working again to strengthen
the law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and
maybe again and again.
Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a
loaf but with a slice.
Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the
United States — is going to take time ....
The first problem is to slow down the increasing number
of guns being produced and sold in this country.
The second problem is to get handguns registered.
And the final problem is to make the possession of *all*
handguns and *all* handgun ammunition — except for the
military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed
sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally
illegal.”
— Pete Shields, Chairman Emeritus,
Handgun Control, Inc.
( “The New Yorker”, July 26, 1976 )


7 posted on 03/10/2009 8:12:30 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunhem?), change America will die for.)
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To: coloradan

Now that’s priceless!!!


8 posted on 03/10/2009 8:15:00 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: neverdem
just put down the color of the receiver, that's the only part that matters.
9 posted on 03/10/2009 8:23:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: neverdem

If the California list turns out to be illegal in DC, it’s going to be illegal in California as well. Massachusetts has a similar list, I believe, even more restrictive.


10 posted on 03/10/2009 8:23:50 PM PDT by tvdog12345
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To: neverdem

After their ban was struck down, DC declared any gun with a magazine (ie all pistols) to be “machine guns” and thus banned. That left only revolvers.

They realized that would just be struck down as well, so they looked for the next most restrictive thing. That turned out to be California’s list of approved pistols. They decided to ban any pistol model after 1985 or so, and allow only models that had been “safety tested” (ie, charge the manufacturer a ton of money and make them jump through bureaucratic hoops forever and ever, despite the fact that those pistols work just fine in the other 49 states).

In this case, it’s a gun that *was* in production before the cutoff, which CA begrudgingly grandfathered in despite not having the required dumbing-down features to make it “safe enough”. When the company released the gun in a new finish, CA refused to allow this exact same gun.

So DC is banning a differently colored version of a gun that CA bans because it was produced after CA froze handgun “safety” certification despite allowing an identical model.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 8:24:46 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: coloradan

You win the ‘Best Quote On FR’ for the month of March 2009.


12 posted on 03/10/2009 8:28:28 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: BobbyT

Several years ago I was looking at a .357 snubbie. It came in either titanium or blue steel. The blued model, even though the same gun, had not been tested for the roster, so i bought the titanium gun when I would rather have had the steel gun. CA is pretty screwed up.


13 posted on 03/10/2009 8:33:28 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: coloradan

Martin Luger King?


14 posted on 03/10/2009 8:33:46 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; goldstategop; CAluvdubya; CyberAnt; Syncro; Citizen James; BurbankKarl; ...
BANG! This looks like it could be a twofer. Maybe both D.C.'s law and the California Safe Handgun Roster will get tossed in the circular file. I couldn't find the make and model.
15 posted on 03/10/2009 8:37:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

It must be some extra super duper weapon to have two colors on it.


16 posted on 03/10/2009 8:38:05 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: BobbyT

Well, they have to pull crap outta their arses... that’s why it always smells awful. [/cynic]

Honestly, WHY don’t we have a tax code that fits, in human readable form, on a single dueplexed page?
WHY do we tolerate all these onerous regulations and rules, even when they are contra-constitutional?
Why don’t “We The People” have the power to tell these untrustworthy scumbags “enough is enough!”?


18 posted on 03/10/2009 8:42:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: coloradan

At the risk of taking the shine off my previous post, I will nevertheless spell it out to the DUers, fencesitters, neutrals, and antis: The DC government is nothing more than bigoted about guns. There is NO other precedent where skin-deep color determines legal status, other than the racist laws of the past. This is the legacy that the gun prohibitionists there wish to carry. It was despicable then, and it is despicable now. Consider all the talk of “diversity” and try to fit that in with DC’s ruling.


19 posted on 03/10/2009 8:47:03 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: autumnraine
It must be some extra super duper weapon to have two colors on it.

Twice as deadly.

20 posted on 03/10/2009 8:49:47 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: coloradan

LOL!


21 posted on 03/10/2009 8:52:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Love to see this moron get carjacked - probably wouldn’t be a problem for him, though. His “security detail” would come to rescue his sorry @ss.


22 posted on 03/10/2009 8:52:17 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: neverdem

sounds like the problem in DC needs to be physically removed from service.


23 posted on 03/10/2009 8:54:41 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: BobbyT

Thanks for the update.


24 posted on 03/10/2009 9:05:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: tvdog12345
If the California list turns out to be illegal in DC, it’s going to be illegal in California as well.

Gon control EPIC FAIL. OOPS ... :)

25 posted on 03/10/2009 9:07:34 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: neverdem
Is the Hello Kitty Assault Rifle on the list?
26 posted on 03/10/2009 9:10:17 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain inalienable rights.)
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To: coloradan

Nicely done!!


27 posted on 03/10/2009 9:27:34 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: posterchild

I’m sending that link to my wife.


28 posted on 03/10/2009 10:00:06 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Larry Lucido

Martin Luger King?

There you go!


29 posted on 03/10/2009 10:02:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: BobbyT
The California "testing" scam includes an expiration date for the approval on a given model as well. The manufacturer has to cough up multiple copies of a given model to go through the destructive testing. It's designed to be very expensive. Manufacturer's only submit models for which they expect enough sales to justify the cost of the "testing".
30 posted on 03/10/2009 10:16:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

I would have just spray-painted it black. Rustoleum® makes a paint for plastic that rubs off of metal (non-plastic) surfaces.


31 posted on 03/11/2009 1:07:24 AM PDT by Does so (White House uncomfortable? Sleeplessness? The 0bama will quit before 6 months are up.)
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To: Does so

You know I saw this article from another source and it started me thinking...that when we had our FNRA fund raising dinner last year....one of the prizes was the same drab olive green gun and in CA it could only be presented as a prize for that one time because it’s color had not yet been legally approved for sale in CA. There was another gun just like it in a different color and it was legal!

I plan on double checking our FNRA sources to make sure, but as I remember there was some kind of legal problem with it’s color.....DC and CA gun haters need to make up their mind and quit making up STUFF!!


32 posted on 03/11/2009 1:23:33 AM PDT by prayin4_swcb (....A nation divided against itself, cannot stand.)
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To: Does so

You know I saw this article from another source and it started me thinking...that when we had our FNRA fund raising dinner last year....one of the prizes was the same drab olive green gun and in CA it could only be presented as a prize for that one time because it’s color had not yet been legally approved for sale in CA. There was another gun just like it in a different color and it was legal!

I plan on double checking our FNRA sources to make sure, but as I remember there was some kind of legal problem with it’s color.....DC and CA gun haters need to make up their mind and quit making up STUFF!!


33 posted on 03/11/2009 1:23:33 AM PDT by prayin4_swcb (....A nation divided against itself, cannot stand.)
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To: coloradan

I too thought judging on the basis of Color was outlawed in America! Or is this Affirmative Action for Armaments? LOL.


34 posted on 03/11/2009 6:20:37 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Then too, maybe DC’s REAL objection is on the basis of style, since most of them are leftist gaywads, anyhow.


35 posted on 03/11/2009 6:24:57 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: BobbyT

Strange. There is no restrictions on handgun importation that I know of in California except a 10 round magazine limit.


36 posted on 03/11/2009 7:47:40 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger
The is a list of CA DOF-approved handguns.

Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement.

37 posted on 03/11/2009 7:50:55 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; Smogger
Oops, copied the wrong thing.

Here:

I am moving into California and I own several handguns. What are the new-resident registration requirements?

You are considered to be a personal handgun importer as defined by California law. You may bring all of your otherwise California-legal firearms with you, but you must report all of your handguns to the DOJ within 60 days as required utilizing the New Resident Handgun Ownership Report. [PDF 518 kb / 2 pg] You are not required to report rifles or shotguns. You may not bring ammunition feeding devices with a capacity greater than ten rounds, machineguns, or assault weapons into California.

(PC sections 12001(n), 12072(f)(2))

38 posted on 03/11/2009 7:55:46 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

As you can see the operative words are “for sale.” So basically you can bring any handgun into the state that you want so long as it only has a 10 round capacity. I haven’t seen any handguns that are for sale outside of California that are not for sale inside of California, with the exception of magazines with higher capacities then 10 rounds. California is a huge market for guns despite the ridiculous laws.


39 posted on 03/11/2009 9:50:10 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Oh.. And you can see that private party transfers are exempt. So the law is basically moot.


40 posted on 03/11/2009 9:51:09 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger

See post #38.


41 posted on 03/11/2009 10:26:02 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Smogger

You’re right, I misread it.


42 posted on 03/11/2009 10:32:44 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: neverdem

There is nothing leftists won’t envy: the fancy stainless steel on your gun, the size of your new TV, the softness of your toilet paper. That’s no fair!


43 posted on 03/11/2009 10:36:11 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: neverdem
Sounds like a one of the ParaOrdnance models. I'm thinking of picking one up for me this Saturday at the gun show.
44 posted on 03/12/2009 5:57:13 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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