Skip to comments.The New Blacklist: Freedom of speech--unless you annoy the wrong people [Prop. 8 Retribution]
Posted on 03/10/2009 9:02:23 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
Strange times we live in when it takes a ballot initiative to confirm the definition of marriage as the union of a man and a woman. Stranger still when endorsing that definition through the democratic process brings threats and reprisals.
In November, the San Francisco Chronicle published the names and home addresses of everyone who donated money in support of California's Proposition 8 marriage initiative. All available information, plus the amount donated, was broadcast. My name is on that list.
Emails started coming. Heavy with epithets and ad hominems, most in the you-disgust-me vein. Several accused me, personally, of denying the sender his single chance at happiness after a life of unrelieved oppression and second-class citizenship. Some were anonymous but a sizable number were signed, an indication of confidence in collective clout that belied howls of victimhood. New York's Gay City News asked for an interview because I was "one of only four New Yorkers who contributed more than $500."
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Quite right, and their purpose is, I think, less retribution than to discourage people from contributing to future campaigns. Already parties have filed for propositions to overturn Prop 8, even to abolish the concept of marriage in civil law. They want to be sure we won’t be as willing to donate this time around.
Wow, fantastic story. Not surprising, either.
If you donate to support a conservative cause, you need to have the associated skills to maintain your safety once anonymity is broken.
>They want to be sure we wont be as willing to donate this time around.
The second time around might involve a firearm’s round.
The second time around is starting right now. Gays are gathering enough signatures to overturn Prop 8, not trusting the State Supreme Court to go their way. Two propositions are already in the mill with one already into its 150-day period to gather signatures. I don’t see violence as a viable option on the part of conservatives as yet. That may come but not in the next 150 days. If, however, they can continue to intimidate those who made contributions for the Prop 8 campaign, they will have scored a significant win.
What I would prefer is a way to preserve my anonymity. The court has already turned down a plea to allow contributors to remain anonymous. How can we legally give and keep our personal names out of it? Fictitious corporation? Shell game? Intermediary organization? Here in California we frequently see organizations such as “Citizens for Government Responsibility” (not a real organization, I made that up) which is actually a front organization for teacher unions or prison guard union or some other less-popular group. I think people should look at such a vehicle to help preserve privacy. (And if liberals fight against such anonymity, then at least they would be cutting their own throats at the same time.)
There must be a list of people and organizations who contributed to the anti Prop 8 campaign. Why is this list not published with names and home addresses and amounts contributed?
Boycotting is fine, it’s a 1A right. But it should cut both ways.
Intimidation and threats are another matter.
If Darwin was right, and only species with the best survivability aspects have a biological advantage, please explain how “teh gay” works in terms of Darwinianism?
It doesn’t. By definition, homosexuals can’t/don’t reproduce. That’s why the indoctrination in public schools, to garner recruits.
Anyone recieving harassment from the homosexuals for exercising their democratic rights should report it to the police and the feds. Save any emails and correspondence. Harassment, of course, was the goal of the SF paper.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
This is thug democracy. Wait until card check is in place. IF they find out how you vote and you didn’t vote for them, you are ruined. Life liberty and property are at risk because these thugs want power and wealth and they are not interested in your rights.
I don't see violence as an option for conservatives at all.
But militant homosexual leftist have been in the past and will be in the future violent.
They are full of hate.
Then it a matter of self defense.
Begging your indulgence, but isn’t CardCheck associated with abolishing Union members’ right to a private ballot? Is it in any way related to standard elections we participate in as private citizens? Please educate me.
Donate double then.
So, like... I voted for McCain see. And people who voted for Obama hate my guts now. They throw crap at my house, they dent my car. They threaten not to do business with me and they harass me. They know I voted for McCain because I had a lawn sign in my yard. But... if I wanted to keep my vote a secret, I could have done that by not telling anyone who I voted for.
With respect to the card check system... there is no secret ballot. Its just ACORN goons walking around intimidating people into voting for unionization. Nobody wants to be intimidated so they will likely just check the yes box. Why not? Higher pay. Bigger benefits. Who cares as long as its good for me.... But the PRINCIPLED person will have a problem with this method of intimidation.
Ouch!!! Sounds like you are in an urban, blue area. It is sad that it has degenerated to this level. There was once a time when the mores of people allowed for civil disagreement and discussion. Now it’s all low-class and trashy. We’ve degenerated into the animals many have been teaching us that we are all these years...
FASCISM Alive and Well and Encouraged In the Gay “Community”.
Sue them. Harrassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, etc., two can play at this game.