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Officials: US ship in China spat was hunting subs
AP ^ | 03/10/2009 | ANNE GEARAN

Posted on 03/10/2009 10:38:44 PM PDT by neverdem

AP Military Writer

The U.S. Navy ship that got into a scrape with five Chinese vessels last weekend in the South China Sea was looking for threats such as submarines _ presumably Chinese _ in waters that China claims as its own, defense officials acknowledged Tuesday.

The United States maintains that the unarmed USNS Impeccable was operating legally in international waters when it was surrounded and harassed by the Chinese. Beijing responded hotly to a U.S. protest over Sunday's incident, and neither nation is backing down, even as they prepare for a much-anticipated first meeting between President Barack Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao next month...

(Excerpt) Read more at start.verizon.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; southchinasea

1 posted on 03/10/2009 10:38:44 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The ship prolly found some. Hence the dust up.


2 posted on 03/10/2009 10:39:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: neverdem
A few DVD’s (Probably made in China anyway), a basketball game or two, and it will be all smoothed over.
3 posted on 03/10/2009 10:43:27 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: neverdem

“even as they prepare for a much-anticipated first meeting between President Barack Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao next month...”

this actually might be the reason the chinese provoked the incident in the first place.


4 posted on 03/10/2009 10:43:57 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Jet Jaguar

‘zactly what I was thinking...


5 posted on 03/10/2009 10:44:00 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Thank goodness Starbucks has sitting tables, or the masses of liberals would be outraged
over the testing of the Obama administration.
/s
6 posted on 03/10/2009 10:44:01 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: WoofDog123

They’re probing to see who really is CINC.

There really is none... right now.


7 posted on 03/10/2009 10:49:41 PM PDT by txhurl (ralph...)
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To: txhurl
"They’re probing to see who really is CINC."

They sure are.

8 posted on 03/10/2009 11:00:21 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: neverdem
in waters that China claims as its own"

...the whole Pacific Ocean.

9 posted on 03/10/2009 11:09:30 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: neverdem

All of this is over. The US ship was well in international water. They became surrounded by 5 chinese vessels and turned on the water spout to “make a hole”.


10 posted on 03/10/2009 11:11:15 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: txhurl

i remember something nixon reportedly said about a huge bombing offensive the US was running before his meeting with (whom? chinese and nva people?), which was basically to the effect that he was going to bomb north vietnam like never before right before going, to show them he had balls of iron or something like that - meaning a major point of the military action (bombing in that quantity) was for political reasons related to the conference. I am paraphrasing, but the game and gamemanship has stuck in my mind since then. I was either not alive or very young at the time this took place, so I am going from years-old book memory.

This might be a much milder version of the same, just a nudge to keep obama a bit off balance.


11 posted on 03/10/2009 11:28:44 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
"...just a nudge to keep obama a bit off balance..."

Like that's really necessary...

12 posted on 03/10/2009 11:52:10 PM PDT by Does so (White House uncomfortable? Sleeplessness? The 0bama will quit before 6 months are up.)
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To: neverdem

From http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090311/ts_nm/us_usa_china

“According to international sea laws and rules, in this (exclusive economic) zone the ships of various countries can merely pass through freely,” said Wu, the commissar.

Gee. Where’d the Chinese get that idea?

From http://www.nmsfocean.org/chow2003/exploring.html

The International Perspective

From the Law of the Sea to the quest for creating a full census of all the creatures in the sea, panelists shared their expertise and experiences, as well as their thoughts about future expeditions and the tools that will be required.

Speakers Include:

The Honorable Jim Greenwood
Co-Chair, House Oceans Caucus

Jim Greenwood, the globalist minded RINO helped set the stage for this UN power expansion...

From http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aEWo3jVNItec&refer=us

Congress is already drafting laws based on recommendations from the Pew report that will incorporate commission proposals. Initial action will focus on funding exploration to inform regulatory changes.

``In many ways we’re at the very first step of this process,’’ Representative Jim Greenwood, a Pennsylvania Republican and founding member of the House Oceans Caucus, said in an interview.

The first legislation may be completed this year, (2003/2004) though Greenwood said rule changes for industries like fisheries or mineral exploration would be offered in later bills.

The commission’s recommendations may also have an impact beyond U.S. borders, said Annick de Marffy, director of the United Nations Division of Ocean Affairs and the Law of the Sea, who has been following the commission’s work.

Other countries have examined how their oceans are governed, such as Australia where fishing will be banned from the Great Barrier Reef beginning in July. The International Maritime Organization has named six Particularly Sensitive Sea Areas, including the reef.

``I am very envious of what the U.S. is doing,’’ de Marffy said. ``It will be an example for us, certainly.’’

Certainly.

From http://www.pgaction.org/uploadedfiles/Johannesburg%20report.pdf

Congressman James Greenwood, U.S. House of Representatives – Pennsylvania;
President, GLOBE International

Congressman Greenwood addressed the need for his fellow legislators to make the goals of the WSSD a priority in their own countries. He discussed the importance of good governance in ensuring implementation of globally negotiated agreements.

Greenwood noted that such agreements are often not instituted correctly because legislators do not understand how to implement an international treaty at the national level. He closed by stating that in the 10 years
since the Rio Earth Summit, sufficient environmental improvements have not occurred.

“The key to saving human lives”, he stated, “is in the hands of national legislators.”

Greenwood, no longer in congress, must still be dreaming of a parliamentary role in global government. He still has his place in the one world pie kitchen...

https://udel.edu/pipermail/globalforum-steering/attachments/20070525/42ec4a58/Proposal_Governing_Marine_Areas_May25-07-0001.pdf

( Don’t miss the Appendices that list the fleas that control the subjugated and soon to be broke dog named US )

For all that RINO’s work, we get to listen to an adversary’s Admiral tell US, “According to international sea laws and rules, in this (exclusive economic) zone the ships of various countries can merely pass through freely,”

Sweet, huh?

For more evidence of the bi-partisan congressional/globalist/NGO/Foundation history of cooperation here’s a link to globeusa.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000301000000-20040630235959/http://www.globeusa.org/globeusa/main.html

See if you can find the join up page where our legislatures agreed that when they attended the parliamentary GLOBE Intl meetings they won’t represent the voters who put them in office.


13 posted on 03/11/2009 12:57:31 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman ("...You are no more a protector of the Constitution than am I," Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) shouted)
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To: neverdem

B Ho will show the Red Chinese a new low level of KowTow that like of which they haven’t seen in centuries.


14 posted on 03/11/2009 1:48:24 AM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: neverdem

Just give Hu a “Reset” button, that will fix everything.


15 posted on 03/11/2009 6:33:18 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: neverdem
Of course we were looking for their subs. It's almost embarassing that the media can't figure out why our ship was trailing a sonar array, LOL.

The reason the Chinese ships surrounded ours and made a lot of noise was to mask the sound of Chinese subs passing by and out of range.

16 posted on 03/11/2009 10:00:42 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Did not China kidnap a P3 Orion submarine-hunting plane during the first month (February) of the Bush Presidency?


17 posted on 03/11/2009 1:40:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It was April Fools Day 2001.
18 posted on 03/11/2009 7:09:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

WHY would a Naval sub-hunter be UNARMED? Who planned this escapade, Hussein Obama???


19 posted on 03/11/2009 8:04:48 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
The United States maintains that the unarmed USNS Impeccable was operating legally in international waters when it was surrounded and harassed by the Chinese.
Next time, let's make sure the ship is armed, and backed up with UAVs and attack subs. :')
20 posted on 03/12/2009 6:07:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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