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Scalia: You need 4 votes for Obama eligibility case
World Net Daily ^ | March 10, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/11/2009 4:15:30 AM PDT by AJMCQ

A lawyer lobbying the U.S. Justice Department and the U.S. Supreme Court for a review of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president says a key conservative justice has hinted that another conservative justice has been voting against hearing the dispute.

According to Orly Taitz, a California attorney working through her Defend Our Freedoms Foundation on several cases challenging Obama, said she was presented with an opportunity to ask a question of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia yesterday.

The issue of Obama's eligibility has been raised before the Supreme Court at least four times already but has yet to be given a single hearing. Cases have been brought by Taitz, Philip Berg, Cort Wrotnowski and Leo Donofrio.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; berg; bho2008; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; british; certifigate; citizenship; colb; constitution; contitutionalcrisis; corruption; coverup; crime; democrats; deomocratscandals; donofrio; doublestandard; eligibility; hawaii; ineligible; kenya; keyes; lawsuit; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; scalia; scotus; taitz; truthers; usurper

1 posted on 03/11/2009 4:15:31 AM PDT by AJMCQ
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To: AJMCQ

when you apply for any job in the USA you have to fill out federal ID form with 2 pieces of identification assuring that you are US citizen.

Where is his forms for his current ‘position’ in the government? Those are public and availabel from FOIA aren’t they?


2 posted on 03/11/2009 4:18:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: AJMCQ

I am guessing it’s Clarence Thomas who isn’t voting, imho.


3 posted on 03/11/2009 4:20:52 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: AJMCQ
"Scalia stated that it would be heard if I can get four people to hear it. He repeated, you need four for the argument. I got a feeling that he was saying that one of these four that call themselves constitutionalists went to the other side," Taitz said.

You only need 4 justices to agree to hear the case to begin with. So Justice Scalia isn't saying anything that isn't common knowledge. I think Taitz is seeing things that aren't there. Again.

4 posted on 03/11/2009 4:21:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: AJMCQ

A very astute new observation was made in the eligibility thread earlier this morning.

Because Hawaii, it has now been revealed, routinely issued “certificates of live birth” to foreign children born outside of Hawaii, for administrative utility and strictly on the basis of one relative’s filling out a request form— one must wonder that it is a “COLB” that Obama has published online—and not a genuine “birth certificate” that records doctor, hospital and more.

By his putting this type of document online, it seems to make all the more conspicuous his lack of showing a true birth certificate.

Official statements from Hawaii have never stated there is a birth certificate on file that shows Obama as having been born there. Only that a certificate is on file. Notable that the key criterion was left out of any statement.

It appears the sympathetic Obama media has played fast with the truth in claiming otherwise.


5 posted on 03/11/2009 4:32:57 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: AJMCQ

Having watched Justice Thomas on that 60-’ show a year or so ago, I find it hard to believe he would stand in the way of justice in America—but wtf do I know, I just go by handshakes and gut feelings vs. smooth-talkin’ devils and rank, titles and other bs.

Semper Watching
Dick Gaines
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6 posted on 03/11/2009 4:33:40 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: AJMCQ
Scalia stated that it would be heard if I can get four people to hear it.

This is the pat on the head and brushoff. Duh.

7 posted on 03/11/2009 4:34:17 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yup.


8 posted on 03/11/2009 4:36:05 AM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: AJMCQ

Scalia said to Taitz:

“Bring the case, I’ll hear it, I don’t know about others.”


9 posted on 03/11/2009 4:43:04 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: cycle of discernment

“A very astute new observation “

Hardly “new!” You must be new to this subject. This has been a major part of the argument for months. There was some talk that his half-sister, who was born in Indonesia, had a certificate. But I believe that has been proven to be false. There’s so much written about this case, that it’s hard to keep track of everything.


10 posted on 03/11/2009 4:43:55 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: AJMCQ
Another route? Quo Warrento?

>> he DC District Court held that the plaintiffs had no standing other than to bring a “direct attack” in quo warranto to remove the alleged usurper. But the DC Court of Appeals reversed and said the plaintiffs, who had suffered real injuries, could bring such an action on a case by case basis if they could prove their injury in fact (being fired) was caused by a Government official who was not eligible to serve.

They opened the door to a floodgate of litigation by an incredibly large field of possible plaintiffs who might challenge every single official action of the Obama administration on the basis that he isn’t eligible.

- Furthermore, there is a tenet of Government that requires there be a certainty to the official actions taken in the name of the United States. No certainty is possible when millions of US citizens, including active military, are concerned that Obama’s credentials were not verified in the same way all citizens must verify their identity for the most simple things in life like getting a drivers license or passport. ...

see: naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com
11 posted on 03/11/2009 4:44:38 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: cycle of discernment

Yes, that observation is astute - but it’s certainly not new. I agree, though, that Obama *could* have averted some of these questions had *both sides* of his COLB been scanned (the clerk’s certification and seal markings are allegedly on the back). Seems sort of stupid to NOT show that important part (unless it was added after the questions started flying).


12 posted on 03/11/2009 4:49:31 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: AJMCQ

I think that when Obama has made a big enough mess of our country, the folks behind the curtain will trot out the birth certificate issue as a way to get rid of “the one”.


13 posted on 03/11/2009 4:55:00 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Mr. K

Yes! All of us had to produce a valid birth certificate for entrance into college, transference to a different college and for job applications, etc. Why would the most important job in our nation not require the same? The true answer is scary!


14 posted on 03/11/2009 4:59:14 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: AJMCQ

I don’t recall who said this, but this quote was made back during the scandal of Bush’s military records.

“The seriousness of these charges warrants a full investigation.”

I’d say that statement is appropriate in this case as well.


15 posted on 03/11/2009 5:00:35 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama's FAILURE is the only chance the U.S. has for SURVIVAL!)
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To: AJMCQ

if anything ever comes of this, I’ll eat my hat.

I have NO FAITH in our justice system.
What is so frigging difficult about releasing records and undeniable PROOF that would put all this to rest?


16 posted on 03/11/2009 5:02:03 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama's FAILURE is the only chance the U.S. has for SURVIVAL!)
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To: thethirddegree

‘I think that when Obama has made a big enough mess of our country, the folks behind the curtain will trot out the birth certificate issue as a way to get rid of “the one”.’

I think you are right.


17 posted on 03/11/2009 5:04:19 AM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: a real Sheila

I think it was Tom Foley - Democrat, then Speaker of the House. From the state of Washington. Defeated in ‘94 by George Nethercutt (R).


18 posted on 03/11/2009 5:08:36 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: real_patriotic_american

No way-he merely explained to her how you get a hearing in any case. Better get ready for 2012 because this is going nowhere.


19 posted on 03/11/2009 5:09:16 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy American or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

What I posted was taken directly from this article. I suggest you read it first before you debate me.


20 posted on 03/11/2009 5:20:38 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: AJMCQ
I think it has been the plan, since the young Obamassiah was at Columbia as one of Zbig's acolytes to put him in as an impostor President who could sign huge spending bills, then have his legitimacy stripped and the bills voided.

It's a long con.

21 posted on 03/11/2009 5:22:21 AM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: steve-b
This is the pat on the head and brushoff. Duh.

I'm afraid you're right. This is precisely the kind of answer I would expect from a politician.

22 posted on 03/11/2009 5:24:23 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO Kenyan Usurper - "Don't Tread On Me!!!")
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To: real_patriotic_american

I read the article...he said you need four votes...ok. I merely pointed out that what should we take from that remark? Not much that I can see. Not trying to debate the issue because their is not enough meat in this article long on wishful thinking-this woman take donations. I would be very careful about sending her one nickel.


23 posted on 03/11/2009 5:26:44 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy American or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

I used to live about 300 yards from this woman’s office. My opinion is that she is a fine and reputable individual.


24 posted on 03/11/2009 5:30:38 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american
Scalia said to Taitz: “Bring the case, I’ll hear it, I don’t know about others.”

Or not. We'll never know.

25 posted on 03/11/2009 5:31:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: real_patriotic_american

I have my doubts. She encouraged active military to involve themselves in this...they will be in trouble for sure (navy brat myself). I think any money sent to her would be better spent electing conservatives. I would love to see an audit of how the money sent to her is spent.


26 posted on 03/11/2009 5:32:34 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy American or bye bye America)
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To: jazzlite

All of us had to produce a valid birth certificate for entrance into college,

Try getting a US passport without a valid BC.


27 posted on 03/11/2009 5:33:08 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Hmmm... can he do that?

Can Scalia demand to have the Birth Cert unsealed for just him to look at?

Honestly, I’d drop the whole matter if Scalia & Co looked at it in private and stated that Bammy was eligible under the Constitution.


28 posted on 03/11/2009 5:35:07 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Or Roberts, who is my guess.


29 posted on 03/11/2009 5:36:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Obamageddon

What would be the point of having him get through the bills, but have his legitimacy stripped? I must really be missing something here.


30 posted on 03/11/2009 5:38:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MrB

That’s not what the article said. We need 4 Justices to vote to send the case to oral argument. Scalia will hear it, we need 3 more Justices.


31 posted on 03/11/2009 5:43:09 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

I understand what the article said.

And it’s not the proper “process”, but, I’d accept a declaration signed by Roberts, Scalia, Alito, and Thomas stating that Bammy is eligible, and question it no further.


32 posted on 03/11/2009 5:44:51 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: 9YearLurker

A spending bill that was signed and implemented by a usurper and impostor would carry no public debt.


33 posted on 03/11/2009 5:48:40 AM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: Obamageddon

I’m still not following you. Once the government has spent money it has spent money.


34 posted on 03/11/2009 5:50:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

They have created debt. If that debt was not legally created, it need not be paid, even thought the “money” is spent.


35 posted on 03/11/2009 6:29:55 AM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: Obamageddon

You would want or expect the US government to default on its debt?


36 posted on 03/11/2009 6:33:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

The U.S. IS going to default on it’s debt. No fiat currency has ever lasted longer than 100 years and the Federal Reserve was created in 1913.


37 posted on 03/11/2009 6:49:49 AM PDT by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: gunnyg

I believe Justice Thomas & Justice Scalia are the two finest men we have on the Supreme Court. Here is Judge Thomas at Pepperdine Univ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45VmPFBs8CM
If it was up to these two men this issue would be resolved. They love the constitution!


38 posted on 03/11/2009 6:54:42 AM PDT by classical artist
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To: All

This once proud world leader of a nation has become the discount store for politicians.

We can’t even get a legitimate president let alone a congress who has the good of the electorate on his/her
agenda.

We have sold the USA to the international community, no longer do we perform as an independent strong leadership
society - we have become what Soros and the U.N. have striven for over the decades and now have sold our nation to anyone who wishes to camp out here and take what we work to give them monthly.

I am sick of it. Two years a citizen and I have made a grave mistake and don’t know what will regain our great
status among first the people and second the rest of the world.

We have literally given away all of our best in favor of building other nations who are not our friends and who will use our own gifts against us to tear us down.

And we are without a legitimate president.... this denotes where we have fallen - a symbol of our greed and lack of attention to putting our needs first before any others.


39 posted on 03/11/2009 7:05:26 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble

bttt


40 posted on 03/11/2009 7:33:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

It’s Thomas. Just like Powell , color before country.


41 posted on 03/11/2009 9:58:12 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: Obamageddon

Fascinating. Maybe they’ll make a move about that someday.

Oh. Wait... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056218/


42 posted on 03/11/2009 10:03:19 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: MrB
Can Scalia demand to have the Birth Cert unsealed for just him to look at?

It would seem that if the Supreme Court wanted to see a document as part of an active case that they'd agreed to hear, they could (possibly, at least) subpoena that document.

Honestly, I’d drop the whole matter if Scalia & Co looked at it in private and stated that Bammy was eligible under the Constitution.

I am unaware of anything in the US Constitution or in any body of law that gives the Supreme Court the right to act as an investigative body in the absence of an active case. If anyone is aware of such a law, I'd like to see it.

43 posted on 03/11/2009 10:31:04 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: MrB

...... that would require the evidence to be presented in court. Yes, I probably would accept that if they reviewed the original vault copy of Obama’s birth certificate. I don’t believe they would approve Obama’s Presidency if the document proves he was NOT born a natural born American citizen. I firmly do not believe that he was.

What is Obama hiding?


44 posted on 03/11/2009 10:33:13 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: classical artist

Agreed!

I don’t understand why I’ve read numerous comments (all over, not just fr—pointing the finger at Justice Thomas???)

IF anything—I could understand some finger pointing in the general direction of roberts!

After all, he is the one w/his invite to visit the sc a week or so prior to swearing in (the first swearing in) and with a case then currently pending in his court—then...participated (again) in the second unrecorded swearing in after inauguration.....makes one wonder doesn’t it???


45 posted on 03/11/2009 2:21:09 PM PDT by gunnyg
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