Skip to comments.Army Called in Aid of Alabama Police?
Posted on 03/11/2009 9:46:49 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51
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Very bad sign.
Where did you get that headline? I don’t see any indication that the Army called on the Alabama police for help.
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MP’s on the street after a night of shootings, at least I know they would be able to hit their target
0bama don’t need no steenkin Constitution?
In the town where the shooting occured, from Ft. Rucker.
But does the act present a major barrier at the National Command Authority level to use of military forces in the battle against terrorism? The numerous exceptions and policy shifts carried out over the past 20 years strongly indicate that it does not. Could anyone seriously suggest that it is appropriate to use the military to interdict drugs and illegal aliens but preclude the military from countering terrorist threats that employ weapons of mass destruction? For two decades the military has been increasingly used as an auxiliary to civilian law enforcement when the capabilities of the police have been exceeded. Under both the statutory and constitutional exceptions that have permitted the use of the military in law enforcement since 1980, the president has ample authority to employ the military in homeland defense against the threat of weapons of mass destruction in terrorist hands.
Coming soon to a street near you!
Wasn’t Posse Comitatus waived back in 1993? 16 years this coming April?
Do you think they would fire on their own people? Especially with a military hating President?
Could easily be ‘Bama Guard! (and therefore entirely legal)
Idiot photog would not know.
Hard to really tell from the pic but looks like they might be carrying sidearms only, and wearing traffic safety vests.
Still not supposed to be there, but at least they aren’t loaded for war.
Was there more, or just these four?
Did you misunderstand my post?
Link only had the one pic. No idea, but still don’t like it.
It was waived for certain functions in support of the war on drugs not for routine police work. This article is bogus.
Sounds like bullshit to me!
Everyone knows what I know.
My question is, why wasn’t an all available units and other jurisdictions called in first? Response time?
Hell, get on the phone and wake up the day shift!
Who ordered them there?
I would think that it would be hard to get the guard there fully equiped like that on such short notice.
Isn’t the National Guard allowed to come in and assist where needed, or does that need to come from the Governor
Could be, I usually sacrifice comprehension and intelligence for posting a pic or trying for a cheap laugh. ;-D
Below are the links to the Google Search on this story:
National Guard or Arny.
That was my understanding. And I didn’t think NG stayed on post read to roll 100% of the time. They’d have to be woken up just like day shift.
Well, the headline says that the Army called for help from the Alabama police. It appears to be the other way around.
In Detroit, we always had a local cop with every squad or platoon to “give guidance and permission.”
In Chicago, the local cops were doing a good enough job of headbeating on the unwashed punks, we BNCO and staff all changed into civies and went to Playboy Club and a place out near airport called SOPs!
SOPs was across street from United Airlines Stewardess Training School..... It was like walking into a woman's prison with a handful of pardons....
“Could anyone seriously suggest that it is appropriate to use the military to interdict drugs and illegal aliens but preclude the military from countering terrorist threats that employ weapons of mass destruction?”
I’ll tell you what I can seriously suggest. I can seriously suggest that it is entirely appropriate for U.S. citizens to expect no threat to their liberty by U.S. military commanders.
Sorry, guess I should have typed “Army called in to aid...”
More info on the story.
U.S. Army Puts Soldiers on the Street in Alabama in Response to Shootings
Posted By admin On March 11, 2009 @ 10:02 am In Featured Stories | 68 Comments
March 11, 2009
The U.S. Army dispatched soldiers to patrol the streets of Samson, Alabama, a small southern town where a rampaging gunman killed 10 people on Tuesday. This obvious violation of the Posse Comitatus Act prohibiting the federal uniformed services from exercising state and local law enforcement was completely ignored by the corporate media with the exception of Reuters and the London Telegraph (see photo and video).
From Reuters: U.S. Army soldiers from Ft. Rucker patrol the downtown area of Samson, Alabama after a shooting spree March 10, 2009.
On September 30, 2008, the Army Times reported the 3rd Infantry Divisions 1st Brigade Combat Team, a component of Northern Command, would be on-call in response to natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks. The Army Times article reported the military would be used for crowd and traffic control and be issued nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them. According to the article, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.. (Emphasis added.)
In early 2006, the 109th Congress passed a bill containing controversial provisions granting the president the ability to use federal troops inside the United States in emergency situations. These changes (in Section 1076) were included in the John Warner Defense Appropriation Act for Fiscal Year 2007.
In 2008, Congress restored many of the earlier limitations on the presidents ability to deploy troops within the United States, but Bush issued a signing statement indicating he was not bound by the changes.
The story of how Section 1076 became law vivifies how expanding government power is almost always the correct answer in Washington, James Bovard wrote for the American Conservative on April 23, 2007. Some people have claimed the provision was slipped into the bill in the middle of the night. In reality, the administration clearly signaled its intent and almost no one in the media or Congress tried to stop it.
The dispatch of troops to Alabama in response to a local law enforcement situation represents a further erosion of Posse Comitatus and the continued federalization of state and local law enforcement.
A Telegraph video on the shootings in Alabama propagandizes against the right to own
firearms in the United States and the Second Amendment.
Finally, the corporate media in Britain has exploited the situation in an effort to denigrate the Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights. In a transparent propaganda piece (see video above), the Telegraph states that mass shootings have become a feature of life in the U.S. in recent years. Guns are widely available for purchase in a country that prides itself on the right to own weapons for self defense and hunting. Britain has some of the most restrictive gun legislation in the world.
After Britains government banned guns in 1997, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. A recent study of all the countries of western Europe has found that in 2001 Britain had the worst record for killings, violence and burglary, and its citizens had one of the highest risks in the industrialized world of becoming victims of crime, historian Joyce Lee Malcolm wrote for the fall 2004 issue of Journal on Firearms & Public Policy.
Most good Guard units have everything but weapons at home. One quick trip to the arms room and move out!
National Guard are under the Governor of the State. Other State’s National Guards have to have permission directly from the Governor in order to operate in the State.
That’s my understanding at least.
Whoa these were regular Army? I take everything back. These guys have ZERO business patrolling our streets.
Thanks for being so thorough in your coverage on this. I’m still just sitting here shaking my head, with my jaw hanging down.
You know, I’m really sick of seeing things that I once knew could never happen. Enough already!
Why do you relate this story to Obama? I believe that Bush used the military for the boarder...what is the big deal? I must not understand.
Truly unbelievable...on our way to communism...
>>Hard to really tell from the pic but looks like they might be carrying sidearms only, and wearing traffic safety vests.
Still not supposed to be there, but at least they arent loaded for war.
Was there more, or just these four?<<
Also couldn’t they be Alabama National Guard?
Well, the headline says that the Army called for help from the Alabama police. It appears to be the other way around.”
Yeah, it didn't make sense to me either. Everyone knows when the Army gets in trouble they have to call in the Marines to bail them out. ;-)
Probably moved under the command of the Georgia National Guard until they could get there.
Check this out:
Using the army for domestic law enforcement is a no-no!
Thank you. I seriously did not know that and I am in the military...(embarassed). But now that I do I thank you.
No, it says "Army Called in Aid of Alabama Police"
I took that to mean they were called to HELP the Alabama police.
If things are THAT bad then they should deputize some of the locals. Military use is not right and not necessary.
“Guns are widely available for purchase in a country that prides itself on the right to own weapons for self defense and hunting.”
Yeah and if any of the victims had of been armed they would have killed the piece of trash! You think the criminal would NOT have had a firearm under restrictions? I swear the level of stupidity has hit an all time high worldwide!