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No more love for Lucy? (33 years of evolutionary propoganda up in smoke)
Journal of Creation ^ | Ryan Jaroncyk

Posted on 03/11/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

No more love for Lucy?

Ryan Jaroncyk

For over the last 30 years, the supposedly 3 . 2 Ma old Australopithecus afarensis specimen known as ‘Lucy’ has been boldly proclaimed as the ancestor of all humanity in magazines, television shows, books, newspapers and museums. However, Tel Aviv University anthropologists have published a study casting serious doubt on Lucy’s role as mankind’s ape ancestor.1 Based on a comparative analysis of jaw bones in living and extinct primates, researchers concluded that Lucy and members of her kind should be ‘placed as the beginning of the branch that evolved in parallel to ours.’ In other words, Lucy should no longer be considered to be our direct ancestor. Lucy’s demise falsifies 33 years of evolutionary hyperbole and propaganda...

(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: afarensis; australopithecus; creation; evolution; flintstones; godsgravesglyphs; goodgodimnutz; hollywoodreds; intelligentdesign; junkdarwin; lucy; telaviv; university; unnaturallyselective
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1 posted on 03/11/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

2 posted on 03/11/2009 11:41:07 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Only Little Ricky and his descendants can claim Lucy as a direct ancestor.


3 posted on 03/11/2009 11:41:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: GodGunsGuts

If we are all descended from her, than I want my ancestor’s bones back.


4 posted on 03/11/2009 11:43:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

(Reading too much into too little and Consider the Source Alerts)

This is mere fodder for the people who have no idea what they are discussing but are dying to pull out the Darwin boogey man.


5 posted on 03/11/2009 11:44:31 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts

Oh, too bad. It was such a politically correct notion.


6 posted on 03/11/2009 11:44:56 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: FormerRep

Indeed. The presence of australopithocine, a fully bipedal primate with the brain the size of a chimp, is itself a powerful testament to the evolution of primates and the change from knuckle walking to bipedalism. It really doesn’t matter one bit if Lucy is a human ancestor or the start of a branch that died out for the evidence of Australopithocine to show that apes were changing and evolving at a time when there were no human beings.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 11:47:40 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: GodGunsGuts

another bogus, blinders on, report by ignoramuses bent on discrediting scientific fact by artificially narrowing, scientifically accepted as broad, facts.

Please if you want to go after bogus science, go after the fraud of anthropomorphic climate change.


8 posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:37 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Piltdown man

Java man

Nebraska man

Lucy

All have something in common.

9 posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:42 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: allmendream

BINGO!


10 posted on 03/11/2009 11:51:21 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: FormerRep

Exactly.


11 posted on 03/11/2009 11:52:47 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Vaquero; All

Also give Christians a bad name with stuff like this..


12 posted on 03/11/2009 11:53:21 AM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The article states:

“.....[There is no] clear link between ancient apes and human beings.”

Hey, Doc, let me introduce you to some of my neighbors.


13 posted on 03/11/2009 11:53:56 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Vaquero
go after the fraud of anthropomorphic climate change Pikers, compared to evos.
14 posted on 03/11/2009 11:54:43 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: GodGunsGuts

This does nothing to disprove evolution.


15 posted on 03/11/2009 11:55:11 AM PDT by Codeflier (We just had 8 more years of a democrat president in office, we already know what happens!)
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To: Vaquero
go after the fraud of anthropomorphic climate change

Pikers, compared to evos.

16 posted on 03/11/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: zeestephen

If we decended from the apes, why are there still apes?


17 posted on 03/11/2009 11:56:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Lucy, you have some ‘splainin’ to do.


18 posted on 03/11/2009 11:56:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: GodGunsGuts

LOL. Good humor is rooted in truth. Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 03/11/2009 11:56:35 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: GodGunsGuts
So let me get this straight. Creationists don't believe in evolution but they state that Lucy is from a different evolutionary line than modern man? Hmmm. FWIW, she's being displayed in Seattle and I saw her last week. Most of the presentation consists of Ethiopian religious history and artifacts, but she's the climax display. For me, it was a moving experience.
20 posted on 03/11/2009 11:56:40 AM PDT by stormer
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have the “Lucy” book. Wonder how much I could get for it on EBAY?


21 posted on 03/11/2009 11:57:53 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: KevinDavis

How so, considering that Christ spoke against it?


22 posted on 03/11/2009 11:57:56 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: GodGunsGuts

The author fails to note that he is anti-evolution theory. That matters.


23 posted on 03/11/2009 11:58:25 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: massgopguy

If Americans descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?


24 posted on 03/11/2009 11:59:32 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Cedric

The list is getting pretty long, isn’t it!


25 posted on 03/11/2009 11:59:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Cedric
Pikers, compared to evos.

Not really the difference is that we and the rest of the planet ARE the result of natural selection or whatever you want to call it

and Global warming is just plain bull, fortified by huge grants for those who would try to prove it.

26 posted on 03/11/2009 12:00:18 PM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Don’t forget Lucy Jr.!...........................


27 posted on 03/11/2009 12:00:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: stormer

You got turned on by an arthritic hominid?


28 posted on 03/11/2009 12:01:10 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: KevinDavis; GodGunsGuts; metmom
Also give Christians a bad name with stuff like this...

That's a really old debunked strawman, but even so:

However, Tel Aviv University anthropologists have published a study casting serious doubt on Lucy’s role as mankind’s ape ancestor...

29 posted on 03/11/2009 12:01:42 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Cedric
All have something in common.

They ALL voted for The Zero in the last election?..............

30 posted on 03/11/2009 12:01:44 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: KevinDavis

Keeping in mind these “posts” of “facts” are simply meant to incite and cause flame wars, nothing more.

FR’s version of Art Bell and George Noory


31 posted on 03/11/2009 12:01:48 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Vaquero

anthropomorphic climate change?.............That’s a new one on me!..............


32 posted on 03/11/2009 12:02:30 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more Chicago Bull than Michael Jordan...................)
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To: Deb

You never know what the Temple of Darwin might pay to make their failure go away ;o)


33 posted on 03/11/2009 12:02:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Neither "Lucy" nor any other ape or hominid is related to us via any process resembling evolution. The neanderthal has been ruled out as a plausible human ancestor precisely because the genetic gulf is too wide and the gulf between us and all other hominids other than the neanderthal is wider.

"Lucy" is said to be a human ancestor because human or near human footprints were found near her remains and are assumed to be 3M years old because of that fact, i.e. via circular reasoning. The truth of the matter is that the human footprints belonged to a human considerably less than 3M years ago and "Lucy" in all likelihood was that human's pet monkey.

Evolution is garbage science and as garbage science goes a spectacularly evil and dangerous variety, with two world wars and something like 200M - 300M dead bodies lying around to its credit. It's way past time evolutionism was gotten rid of.

34 posted on 03/11/2009 12:02:54 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: FreedomProtector

My pleasure :o)


35 posted on 03/11/2009 12:03:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream
a fully bipedal primate with the brain the size of a chimp

Excuse me for intervening in this debate, but, I can assure you that the above noted Democrats are alive and well in my neck of the woods!

36 posted on 03/11/2009 12:04:19 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Cedric
Christ spoke against it

yes I remember it well...Sermon on the mount I believe.

” God bless the Intelligent Designers, for they shall inherit the superstitious”

pass the loaves and fishes

37 posted on 03/11/2009 12:04:24 PM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: pabianice

==The author fails to note that he is anti-evolution theory. That matters.

He writes for the Journal of Creation. Need he say more?


38 posted on 03/11/2009 12:04:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Cedric

What do they have in common?


39 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:31 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Vaquero
we and the rest of the planet ARE the result of natural selection

Capitalization does not suffice as proof.

40 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:38 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: April Lexington
Liberals have brains fully within the human SIZE range, it is just that they use it less than a hippie uses deodorant.
41 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: GodGunsGuts

So Lucy was a sort of phony ape. Does that mean we should change her name to Michelle?


42 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:48 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: GodGunsGuts

They’ll never go away, something about the cocktail parties and hangin’ with the cool kids.


43 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:56 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: allmendream

Because they are both homo sapiens.

Monkey is Monkey, Human is Human.


44 posted on 03/11/2009 12:06:59 PM PDT by job
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To: Vaquero

==Please if you want to go after bogus science, go after the fraud of anthropomorphic climate change.

That’s already being handled by Tolerancesucksrocks et al.


45 posted on 03/11/2009 12:07:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream

If we evolved from apes why are apes still here? If we did and apes are still here where are the human-ape transition creatures?


46 posted on 03/11/2009 12:08:10 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: varmintman
You better get your sources out, because Neanderthal genes are found in about 70% of the living population of Europe today.

Your post is complete hogwash.

47 posted on 03/11/2009 12:08:50 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: massgopguy

I want to know that too.


48 posted on 03/11/2009 12:09:50 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: massgopguy
Because, you are wrong to say we descended from apes. No reputable scientist or researcher has ever said that.
The point is that there was a common ancestor.
Please do some research and get your facts straight.
49 posted on 03/11/2009 12:10:02 PM PDT by newcats (Natural Born Skeptic)
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creationist: a fully bipedal primate with the brain the size of a pea
50 posted on 03/11/2009 12:10:33 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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