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"Yuri Bezmenov on demoralization" ( Interview with Yuri Bezmenov (ex-KGB) 1984 ^ | 1984 | Edward Griffin

Posted on 03/11/2009 11:47:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

This shocking video transcription exposes KGB's subversive tactics against western society. In this interview, Yuri Bezmenov explains how Marxist ideology is deconstructing America's values, destabilizing the economy, and provoking crises in order to sovietize the free world.

Some of the videos below are from different portions of the same interview. (We removed the earlier links to Youtube since they no longer worked)

 Yuri Bezmenov on demoralization

 Bezmenov on Marxists, useful idiots 

 Bezmenov on American mass media

 Bezmenov on KGB interest in yoga, brainwashing

Partial Transcript:

ED GRIFFIN: Well, you spoke before about "ideological subversion" and that's a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't understand. When the Soviets use the phrase "ideological subversion" what do they mean by it?

1. YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes.... It has nothing to do with espionage.

I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic.... That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films.

But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced

by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism....

The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

ED: And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept - these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?

YURI: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy [and] frustrated people, and Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents. Unlike the present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. [Now] you can get popular like Daniel Elsburg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. ...he will refuse to believe it.... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization.... It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you.

ED: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?

YURI: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government.... The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government... to stop aiding Communism.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bezmenov; coldwar2; economy; kgbsubversion; obama; putin; russia; sovietunion

1 posted on 03/11/2009 11:47:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping for later.

2 posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:07 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: joygrace; TigerLikesRooster; rabscuttle385; abb; yankeedame; jpsb; dennisw; dfwgator; Vet_6780; ...
From the same website:

From Marx to Lenin, Gramsci & Alinsky


The Sleight of Hand Behind Obama's Agenda: "Forget the 8,570 earmarks in a bill supported by a president who poses as the scourge of earmarks.... The logic of Obama's address to Congress went like this: '...We are paying for past sins in three principal areas: energy, health care and education -- importing too much oil and not finding new sources of energy... not reforming health care, and tolerating too many bad schools....

      "As an explanation of our current economic difficulties, this is total fantasy.... At the very center of our economic near-depression is a credit bubble, a housing collapse and a systemic failure of the banking industry.... But the list of causes of the collapse of the financial system does not include the absence of universal health care, let alone of computerized medical records. Nor the absence of an industry-killing cap-and-trade carbon levy. Nor the lack of college graduates....

      "...six weeks after his swearing-in, Obama has yet to unveil a plan to deal with the banking crisis.... 'You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,' said chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. 'This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.'... [This rule fits those who have their own agenda to implement -- one that clashes with public wants]

      "Obama sees the continuing financial crisis as usefully, creating the psychological conditions -- the sense of crisis bordering on fear-itself panic -- for enacting his 'Big Bang' agenda to federalize and/or socialize health care, education and energy.... Clever politics, but intellectually dishonest to the core.... The fraudulent claim that they are both cause and cure is the rhetorical device by which an ambitious president intends to enact the most radical agenda of social transformation seen in our lifetime." See The emerging New World Order

3 posted on 03/11/2009 11:51:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am currently reading “The Naked Communist” an excellent book written in the late 50’s that could have been written last year. The parallels are astonishing and absolutely frightening given the fact that so much in the book is applicable today but, was written at a time when the communist movement was in it's infancy.
4 posted on 03/11/2009 11:53:35 AM PDT by Born In America ("O.B.A.M.A.: One Big A** Mistake, America....")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This would explain the high number of idiots on my campus.

5 posted on 03/11/2009 11:57:27 AM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: Born In America
Looks like Amazon still has the Hardcover...:

The Naked Communist (Hardcover)

6 posted on 03/11/2009 12:30:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (What happened to my IRAs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think this explains Russia’s latest moves. Russia and Putin know exactly what they are dealing with in Obama, and thus is why they said no to cutting off Iran for missile defense dismantling. They know they can get alot more.

7 posted on 03/11/2009 3:22:12 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks Ernest!

Trojan Horse Obama is Destroying Our Economy on Purpose
Worldview Radio | March 9, 2009 | Brannon Howse
Posted on 03/11/2009 8:55:18 AM PDT by joygrace

8 posted on 03/11/2009 6:35:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ( Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Thunder90

Russia is another animal entirely from the USSR, although I don’t discount the possibility that they are still communists, and certainly they are still antagonistic toward the US. I have long thought that they have had a significant role in US cultural history over the last 50 years. Bezmenov is a great resource illuminating the true nature of the KGB and US 1960 counter culture connections.

9 posted on 03/13/2009 6:52:07 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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