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China’s Big Recycling Market Is Sagging (Even trash has become worthless)
NYT ^ | 03/12/09 | DAN LEVIN

Posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China’s Big Recycling Market Is Sagging

By DAN LEVIN

BEIJING — Each morning Tian Wengui emerges from the home he makes under a bridge here, two large sacks slung over his shoulder. Through the day, and well into the night, he scours garbage cans for soda bottles, soy sauce containers and cooking oil jugs. Selling the refuse to one of Beijing’s ubiquitous recycling depots, Mr. Tian can earn $3 on a good day.

But good days are getting harder to come by.

Since Mr. Tian migrated from Sichuan province, the multibillion-dollar recycling industry has gone into a nosedive because of the global economic crisis and a concomitant fall in commodity prices. Bottles now sell for half of what they did in the summer.

“Even trash has become worthless,” Mr. Tian said recently as he made his way to a collection center, his sacks nearly bursting.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; crash; economiccrisis; recycling

1 posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/11/2009 11:50:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You’d think it would be the other way around.

I was under the impression that the Chinese recycled out of necessity rather than political correctness.


3 posted on 03/11/2009 11:51:32 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL!!! The snowball is growing and picking up speed.


4 posted on 03/11/2009 11:51:36 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt
Gone are the days when investment bankers made huge money selling CDS to one another and Mr. Tian had made mountains of money from recycling business.:-)
5 posted on 03/11/2009 11:55:45 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Does this mean China will be reducing exports to the US?


6 posted on 03/11/2009 11:56:43 PM PDT by tdscpa
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Yes, because Americans are not buying.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 11:57:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Writer ‘Dan’ must have watched CSI:NY tonight and hopped right onto his word processor. The theme was enviromental wackos blowing up some guy who exported electronic recycled materials to China. Too bad Gary Sinise has to put up with such scripts - although he did catch the bomber ;-)


8 posted on 03/12/2009 12:04:27 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: sinanju

Not about political correctness for the Chinese... Recycling is (or was) a huge for profit business.


9 posted on 03/12/2009 12:05:13 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have heard the American market of recycling is tanking too.


10 posted on 03/12/2009 12:05:24 AM PDT by Global2010 (Worship the Creator Not the Creature.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have seen $48 dollar recycled totes made of rice bags that are imported from China.

Money goes to support some village.

I love the totes but not enough to shell out that kinda dough for one. Have to put it on the Christams wish list.


11 posted on 03/12/2009 12:07:21 AM PDT by Global2010 (Worship the Creator Not the Creature.)
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To: Global2010
I have heard the American market of recycling is tanking too.

All that crap is piling up.
Aluminum cans are always worth recycling but my guess is all the other "recyclables" can just be thrown in the regular trash. Cities are brain dead and will still tell you to sort them out but they are merging them with regular trash going to the landfill

12 posted on 03/12/2009 12:12:30 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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I fill up two big blue bins a week due to all the sterile wrapped medical supplies I use.
I love the idea else I would be paying a huge fee to have it taken away with the normal garbage.

Also all the plastic medical tubing and sterile plastic water bottles ect I go through.

And I am talking big wheeled blue bins like the size of the garbage bin.

13 posted on 03/12/2009 12:18:10 AM PDT by Global2010 (Worship the Creator Not the Creature.)
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To: Global2010

Well recycling helps you a bit


14 posted on 03/12/2009 12:23:42 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Scrap steel continues to go to China from the USA. If any of you are wanting to start any small recycling/casting operations, you should grab some of that steel fairly soon and cover it up. Getting ore and smelting it can be expensive.


15 posted on 03/12/2009 12:59:47 AM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: dennisw

Penn and Teller do an excellent (but profane) story on the real story of recycling. I recommend it (on Youtube).


16 posted on 03/12/2009 1:08:21 AM PDT by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

17 posted on 03/12/2009 1:19:27 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Even trash has become worthless

even in china where you’d usually expect to find it in children’s toys and toothpaste and an occasional stir fry


18 posted on 03/12/2009 1:38:50 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Global2010

If they sell many at that price, they’re making a killing.

I know the guy who does these:

http://clothbag.com/products.html


19 posted on 03/12/2009 2:51:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Global2010

At Sam’s Club, you can purchase 10 pounds (IIRC) of Basmati rice. The rice is in a plastic inner bag and the outer bag is burlap, with handles and a zipper, screen printed with Product of Tibet etc. All for $15.00 or so. Excellent rice, cute bag. Would make a good knitting bag or one for carting sewing/quilting projects around.

Some pics
http://www.kusharice.com/basmati_rice.html


20 posted on 03/12/2009 4:04:00 AM PDT by reformedliberal (N0)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Did Tony Soprano move to Shanghai?


21 posted on 03/12/2009 4:40:44 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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It's killing my wife's bussiness. Her brothers and she own a medium sized recycling bussiness. They now have acre's of scrap, with no market.

They have gone from getting $35.00 a ton for newsprint last spring, to paying $40.00 a ton to get rid of it this month.

22 posted on 03/12/2009 5:16:01 AM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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