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To: chuck_the_tv_out

maybe someone can hunt this out but i have a disticnt memory of the ussr pulling this crap during the Carter depression. He too bent over for them and they took full advantage. it took Reagan to fight back. anyone else remember that?


6 posted on 03/12/2009 2:10:17 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Irishguy
maybe someone can hunt this out but i have a disticnt memory of the ussr pulling this crap during the Carter depression.

The Soviets did several times challenge innocent passage of U.S. warships in e.g. the Sea of Japan in the 70's.

There were at least two incidents in which Soviet icebreakers attempted to cause collisions with WW2-era U.S. destroyers (Allen M. Sumner and Gearing classes) which were known to have longitudinal structural-strength issues. I.e., they tried to cut destroyers in two. One incident was written up in detail in the "NOFORN News", the DIA's weekly intelligence summary. The icebreaker in that incident succeeded in engineering a collision but struck the U.S. destroyer on the portside bow anchor, doing no real damage. Personally, I'd have had my gun mounts clear the Russian's bridge for him. But the RoE were very strict about these encounters.

10 posted on 03/12/2009 2:34:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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maybe someone can hunt this out but i have a disticnt memory of the ussr pulling this crap during the Carter depression. He too bent over for them and they took full advantage. it took Reagan to fight back. anyone else remember that?

No, not so much...I was a Standley Steamer 1977-80 and we most certainly did not bend over for the Soviets in any way! Not that that idiot Carter was good for the navy whatsoever. I distinctly remember two times when it was uncertain whether we were actually going to be paid, and Navy Relief geared up to help the families who depended on dad's paycheck. Death to leftist scum!
14 posted on 03/12/2009 2:38:50 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback, pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32)
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