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Grandson of America's 10th President (John Tyler) alive and working in obscurity at Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech Magazine ^ | Feb 2007 | Christopher J. Leahy

Posted on 03/12/2009 8:47:00 AM PDT by Edit35

As a boy, Harrison Tyler never gave much thought to his grandfather, John Tyler, the 10th president of the United States. "I grew up during World War II," he told Subaru Drive Magazine in 2002, "and surviving the war and the shortages was what was on everybody's mind. Being related to a president was never a thought."

Such a view may seem astonishing, but President Tyler died in 1862, 66 years before his grandson was born. In fact, Harrison Tyler's father, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, was born in 1853 and died in 1935, so there were very few first-hand accounts of the president to inspire Harrison.

(Excerpt) Read more at vtmagazine.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: johntyler; presidentialhistory; presidents; tyler; virginiatech
Amazing. The grandson (not great-grandson or great-great-great grandson) of the 1841 American President John Tyler is living in relative obscurity working at Virginia Tech.

John Tyler was President 20 years BEFORE Lincoln!!!

For those into presidential trivia, Tyler was the first president elected by succession.

He was vice-president to William Henry Harrison, who died 32 days into office from a cold that turned into pneumonia and pleurisy.

Tyler was only 1 of 4 presidents who never ran for the office. He was 1 one of 3 to get married while he was President (his first wife died halfway through his term). Between his two wives he had 15 children--a record for Presidents!

Amazing.

1 posted on 03/12/2009 8:47:01 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Edit35
Amazing.

I'm flabbergasted!

2 posted on 03/12/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by houeto (I see Obama voters...and it's changed my tipping habits.)
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To: Edit35

3 posted on 03/12/2009 8:51:39 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Edit35
He was vice-president to William Henry Harrison, who died 32 days into office from a cold that turned into pneumonia and pleurisy.

WHH is one of my more notable ancestors, probably due to that fact alone. The two Benjamin Harrisons, did us proud.

4 posted on 03/12/2009 8:53:30 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Edit35
My grandmother had documentation by old deeds and birth certificates that she was great great granddaghter of John Morton who signed the declaration of independence, said he started out wealthy and lost the plantation and everything he had in the revolutionary war to debtors buying weapons for the militia, died a poor man living off the land in Ohio, his sons went on to be riverboat pilots

that and $3.95 will get me a cup of coffee, and the priveledge to pay my taxes, some jackass born in Kenya becomes telepromter in chief, a mexican illegal alien gets a discount on his electric bill

5 posted on 03/12/2009 8:54:50 AM PDT by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: Edit35

Do the math. This grandson must be older than dirt, or his old man is the poster boy for some forgoten natural organic viagra!


6 posted on 03/12/2009 8:55:20 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

He’s around 81


7 posted on 03/12/2009 8:56:28 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Edit35

Grandmother must have been Julia Gardner then (Tyler’s 2nd wife). His great-grandfather was Congressman David Gardner of N.Y. who was killed (1844) when Tyler took him, his fiance (Julia), the Secretary of State (Apel Upchur who was also killed), and Secrtary of Navy (also killed) Thomas Gilmer on a boat excursion down the Potomac to see a new Navy gun (it exploded).


8 posted on 03/12/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by meandog (The only "Bush" sounding surname worth a damn belongs to NASCAR's Kurt&Kyle Busch--not GEORGE!)
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To: Edit35
Another article from 2007:

Tyler

A Google search showed he's donated to the Virginia Republican Party in the past.

9 posted on 03/12/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Edit35

If true that is amazing. I think we are not so far removed in time as we perceive with relatively recent history.


10 posted on 03/12/2009 8:58:08 AM PDT by Free Descendant (Palin Power!)
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To: P8riot
That makes hid dad 75 when he was born. Like I said, some forgotten form of organic viagra!
11 posted on 03/12/2009 8:59:15 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Edit35

A friend of mine is the grandson of a black Civil War soldier who had been a slave. His aunt, the soldier’s daughter is still alive. She just turned 100 last year. There were two girls born to this soldier from a second marriage. The aunt was the youngest, and was just a baby when her mother died.


12 posted on 03/12/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: P8riot
WHH is one of my more notable ancestors, probably due to that fact alone. The two Benjamin Harrisons, did us proud.

One was grandson of WHH the other (his great-grandfather) was governor of and among the first families of Va. I must say, I wouldn't be so "proud" of the former as I would be of the latter. President Benjamin Harrison was a YANKEE who fought against his family roots here in the Old Dominion...I doubt if his grandfather and great-grandfather would have thought much of him.

13 posted on 03/12/2009 9:03:14 AM PDT by meandog (The only "Bush" sounding surname worth a damn belongs to NASCAR's Kurt&Kyle Busch--not GEORGE!)
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To: Beagle8U

The math says John Tyler (born 1790) was 63 when he sired Lyon Gardiner Taylor (born 1853). Lyon Gardiner Tyler was 75 when he sired Harrison Tyler (born 1928). Harrison is 80 or 81 years old (not sure of date, but year stated on Wiki was 1928. There must be some good longevity genes in that family.


14 posted on 03/12/2009 9:03:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Edit35

I think there are still a handful of Civil War widows out there.


15 posted on 03/12/2009 9:04:35 AM PDT by fso301
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To: IYAS9YAS

Oops, I have a Taylor where it should be a Tyler.


16 posted on 03/12/2009 9:04:51 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Edit35
For those into presidential trivia, Tyler was the first president by succession.

Yeah, I remenber that. The previous President died in a boating accident ..... Something about his canoe tipping over. ;-)

17 posted on 03/12/2009 9:07:38 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

LOL!


18 posted on 03/12/2009 9:12:24 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: IYAS9YAS; All
“There must be some good longevity genes in that family.”

I'll betcha more than “evity” is long in that family!

They must be able to attract and keep much younger women!

19 posted on 03/12/2009 9:17:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Free Descendant
.....we are not so far removed in time as we perceive with relatively recent history....

My grandfather was born in 1867. His father in 1798! At 70, I feel connected to the 18th, 19th, 20th, and 21st Centuries.

20 posted on 03/12/2009 9:19:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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To: Edit35

Quite incredible - especially to me, an amateur genealogist. President Tyler was born in 1790, his son in 1853 when he was 63, and the son’s son in 1928 when he was 75. Most folks become grandparents in their 50’s or 60’s, with the last grandkid born before they are 85 or so. This grandchild was born 148 years after his grandfather! Heck, I thought it unusual that my grandfather would have been 89 when my youngest cousin was born a few years ago - but that pales in comparison to this.

He’s now 80 or 81 - I wonder if he’s fathered any kids of late?

BTW, President Tyler is the only President with whom I share a birthday, so I’ve always been a bit more interested in him.


21 posted on 03/12/2009 9:20:37 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant-wannabee: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Beagle8U; P8riot
That makes hid dad 75 when he was born. Like I said, some forgotten form of organic viagra!


"Y'all got a problem with that, boy?" .... Senator Strom Thurmond, circa 1978

22 posted on 03/12/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Beagle8U

“Do the math. This grandson must be older than dirt, or his old man is the poster boy for some forgoten natural organic viagra!”

And you are an ass.


23 posted on 03/12/2009 9:26:43 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Beagle8U

P.S.

Forgive me. I meant to say you are “a DISPICABLE ass.”


24 posted on 03/12/2009 9:33:23 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Polybius

I think its great!


25 posted on 03/12/2009 9:36:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Edit35

He’s working. Like he oughta be. What he’s supposed to be lying around going my ancestor was President?


26 posted on 03/12/2009 9:37:18 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Whats your problem gramps? Sticker wont peck up?


27 posted on 03/12/2009 9:39:22 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Edit35
Tyler was only 1 of 4 presidents who never ran for the office...Between his two wives he had 15 children--a record for Presidents!

Given this proclivity, I'm surprised there aren't a lot of NFL players named after him.

28 posted on 03/12/2009 9:42:50 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: KTM rider

Not to argue with your grandmother’s story, but John Morton died on his farm in Chester, PA (a suburb of Philadelphia today) in April 1777 of tuberculosis. He was the first signer to die. He left the farm and a few slaves to his wife and children, who were forced to flee to New Jersey when the British captured Philadelphia that fall.


29 posted on 03/12/2009 9:57:10 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Beagle8U

“Whats your problem gramps? Sticker wont peck up?”

Please explain in explicit detail what that phrase means. I live in Panama and have no knowledge of the meaning of that phrase.

I am waiting.


30 posted on 03/12/2009 10:06:41 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Beagle8U
"Y'all got a problem with that, boy?" .... Senator Strom Thurmond, circa 1978

I think its great!

It seems that, back in those days, Senator Bob Dole was having .... ummm .... "problems" in a certain department relating to married life. So, he went to his friend, the much older Senator Thurmond, for advice.

"It all has to do with circulation!", said Senator Thurmond. "Ya got to get the blood circulating down there. So, before I get into bed, I drop down and give the old boy fifty, just like back in boot camp. And I count 'em out real fast 'One! Two! Three' Four!....' When I get to fifty, I'm ready to go!"

So, next Friday night, Bob Dole came home after some late night Senate business, got ready for bed, turned off the lights, dropped down on the floor and started started counting out real fast, "One! Two! Three' Four!....

Mrs. Dole then sat up in bed and whispered into the darkness, "Strom? Is that you, Strom?"

31 posted on 03/12/2009 10:21:02 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Edit35

The calander can do strange things to family lines. My grandmother made horse collars for the Confederate Army and my grandfathers brother my grand uncle?...fought for the Confederacy and was captured at the Battle of Vicksburg. I am 72.


32 posted on 03/12/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: Beagle8U

P.S.

Should you send me your reply by FReep mail, you need not worry. I will share it with everybody else. I know there are a lot of folks who will want to know your reply; and therefore, I will put it on the public FR ping list.


33 posted on 03/12/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Edit35

He was also the first president born after the adoption of the Constitution and the only president to participate in rebellion against the U.S. - he was elected to the confederate congress but died before he could be sworn in.


34 posted on 03/12/2009 10:33:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
“Please explain in explicit detail what that phrase means. I live in Panama and have no knowledge of the meaning of that phrase.”

Just the fact that you live in Panama is proof enough that you have no knowledge. Not much else needs be added.

Hows your skeeter problem?

35 posted on 03/12/2009 10:37:29 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
John Tyler did have 15 children by two wives, more than any other President. He was also the only president to serve in the Confederate Congress.

Lyon Gardiner Tyler was the youngest child and was also married twice and had six children. He had been President of the College of William and Mary. He was also a notorious lost causer, the author of A Confederate Catechism.

It's good that the grandson was able to achieve something with his life. Both the Tylers and the Gardiners (who held a patent from Charles I for Gardiner's Island off Long Island) were old families who had some difficulties adapting to today's world.

36 posted on 03/12/2009 10:44:14 AM PDT by x
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


37 posted on 03/12/2009 10:49:35 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Our Savior who art in Washinton, Hallowed be His name...)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Assuming ‘51 in the picture means that he was a member of the class of 1951, I would imagine he’s at least in his 80s.


38 posted on 03/12/2009 10:51:43 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (There are no points for second place.)
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To: Beagle8U

“Hows your skeeter problem?”

What is a “skeeter Probblem?” We in Panama do not know what that means.

Please share with all of us...you coward.


39 posted on 03/12/2009 11:32:10 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"The surviving children of John Morton were as follows: Aaron, the eldest, married Frances, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Paschall Annitt. They lived in Delaware County for several years and afterward emigrated to Ohio."

sorry about that I guess i had the story wrong all these years, I guess she was tracing back how she ended up in Ohio the daughter of a steam powered riverboat pilot and I got the story fuzzed up..

grandma died when I was young she was in her late ninetys I believe. Dont know how I got it that mixed up,

well that made my day, finding out what i thought I knew turned out to be a lie, dammit

well it doesn't matter anyway my whole family is gone now, no one to even left to ask about it

40 posted on 03/12/2009 11:33:05 AM PDT by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: Edit35

Here earlier today: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2205004/posts


41 posted on 03/12/2009 11:33:30 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: fso301

Nope. Last one died 31 May 04

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-05-31-war-widow_x.htm


42 posted on 03/12/2009 11:35:50 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: KTM rider
well that made my day, finding out what i thought I knew turned out to be a lie, dammit

Oh, I don't know. A lot of family lore that's passed down the generations gets muddled along the way. Doesn't make it a lie. Does any of this invalidate that Morton was your ancestor? There's actually an organization you can join for the descendants of signers of the Declaration. You could find relatives you never knew you had.

43 posted on 03/12/2009 11:51:58 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
“What is a “skeeter Probblem?” We in Panama do not know what that means.”

Are they all idiots? Try google if malaria hasn't rotted your brain too much to understand how.

44 posted on 03/12/2009 11:58:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Edit35

BTTT

Very interesting article...


45 posted on 03/12/2009 12:05:38 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Beagle8U

Hey coward, you never answered my question.

(P.S. You are so dang dumb, malaria is not a big problem in Panama.

Denge yes. But you would not know that. Denge is a name for new breed of kitty cat.


46 posted on 03/12/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: mass55th
A friend of mine is the grandson of a black Civil War soldier who had been a slave.

I remember reading about two years ago that the last person receiving veterans benefits from the Civil War had just died.

Seems that around 1918 a soldier who had fought in the Civil War (he was about 80 in 1919) had married a 17-year old young girl, and thus she was entitled to the veterans benefits paid to wives of soldiers.

She eventually passed away around 2003 at age 105 or so, but was the last person in America still receiving benefits DIRECTLY from civil war action.

47 posted on 03/12/2009 3:06:53 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: fso301
I think there are still a handful of Civil War widows out there.

I remember reading a story in the newspaper about two years ago that the last person receiving veterans benefits directly from the Civil War had just died.

Seems that a soldier who had fought in the Civil War was about 81 when he married a 17 year old girl around 1918.

He died soon after but she was entitled to the benefits that go to the wife of a Civil War soldier.

She eventually passed away around 2003 at age 105 or so, but was the last person in America still receiving benefits DIRECTLY from civil war action.

48 posted on 03/12/2009 3:14:12 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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