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NC Judge Orders Homeschool Mom to Put Kids in Public School (to challenge the ideas she taught them)
Christian NewsWire ^ | Mar. 12, 2009 | Adam Cothes

Posted on 03/12/2009 10:40:35 AM PDT by Between the Lines

RALEIGH, NC -- Venessa Mills is fighting a legal battle for the heart and soul of homeschooling in North Carolina. As reported on World Net Daily, on Friday, March 6, Judge Ned W. Mangum stripped her of the right to homeschool, and ordered her three children to enter public school.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91397

Mills was forced to defend her right to homeschool during divorce proceedings brought on by her husband's unfaithfulness. Mr. Mills admitted, under oath, to repeatedly committing adultery. Even with abundant evidence showing the Mills children are well adjusted and well educated, Judge Mangum ruled overwhelmingly against Mrs. Mills on every point. He stated the children would do better in public school despite the fact that they are currently at or beyond their grade level. Evidence showed two children tested several grades ahead.

When issuing his verdict Judge Mangum stated his decision was not ideologically or religiously motivated. However, he told Mrs. Mills public school will "challenge the ideas you've taught them."

What has emerged is a picture of a clearly liberal judge imposing his beliefs and striking down traditional values. Mangum, a Democrat appointee, disregarded the facts of the case in favor of his own agenda. Such anti-conservative prejudice is increasingly legislated from the bench, and appears to be encouraged by the Democratic Obama administration.

Robyn Williams, friend and homeschool mother of four was present at the proceeding. "I have never seen such injustice and such a direct attack against homeschooling," said Williams. "This judge clearly took personal issue with Venessa's stance on education and faith, even though her children are doing great. If her right to homeschool can be taken away so easily, what will this mean for homeschoolers state wide, or even nationally?"

On March 24th lawmakers in North Carolina will be reminded of the sheer numbers of homeschoolers in their state. As students and their parents descend on the capitol, organizers of the Capital Fest 2009 field trip will show they have a voice in North Carolina legislation regarding education.

Williams is rallying homeschoolers from across the nation to fight back to defend their rights as Americans to educate their children. She feels the judge has been given a free hand to impose his personal opinions and needs to reexamine his decisions. Please subscribe to Robyn's blog and join the fight for protecting everyone's homeschool rights (www.HSinjustice.com).

For more information or to schedule an interview contact Adam Cothes at acothes.publicity@gmail.com or call 253-797-6194.

The public is being encouraged to take these action steps:

1. Forward this message to every person on your contact list, and all those interested in protecting basic American rights. After the right to educate is gone, property and other basic rights will follow.

2. Read the blog at www.HSinjustice.com.

3. Contact three officials to express your outrage at Venessa Mills' right to homeschool being taken away and the prejudicial orders of this judge. Three or four short emails or phone calls could be the difference for these kids, and many more like them.

You can reference the case number: #08CVD17753

Judge's Supervisor

Judicial Standards Commission P.O. Box 1122 Raleigh, North Carolina 27602 919-831-3630

State Legislators

NC Senate--Neal Hunt (R) 919-733-5850 Neal.Hunt@ncleg.net

NC House--Ty Harrell (D) 919-733-5602 Ty.Harrell@ncleg.net

North Carolina Governor

Governor Bev Perdue Office of the Governor 20301 Mail Service Center Raleigh, NC 27699-0301 Phone: (919)733-4240


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: activistcourts; antichristian; atheismandstate; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; education; homeschool; indoctrination; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; parentalrights; socialengineering; starkravingsocialism; ussa
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1 posted on 03/12/2009 10:40:35 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines

Stupid and/or corrupt judges are one of our biggest problems in this country right now.


2 posted on 03/12/2009 10:42:13 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Tax-chick

In case you didn’t know about this...


3 posted on 03/12/2009 10:43:07 AM PDT by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: Between the Lines

This is maddening


4 posted on 03/12/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by indi_girl447 (Hope and Change eh?...Gee, I'm sold...)
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To: Between the Lines

There is surely more to this story than meets the eye...


5 posted on 03/12/2009 10:47:11 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: beethovenfan; indi_girl447

This is just part of the judge’s stupid rulling. Go to the blog to read more. www.HSinjustice.com


6 posted on 03/12/2009 10:48:53 AM PDT by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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To: Between the Lines

And who will “challenge the ideas the public school indoctrinates them with.”


7 posted on 03/12/2009 10:53:01 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Between the Lines

DISGUSTING!!!


8 posted on 03/12/2009 10:54:09 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Between the Lines

“Evidence showed two children tested several grades ahead”.

...this is what the problem is. Can’t have these kids “ahead” of anyone else for God’s sake! That would be labeled as “success”, “independant” and “prosperous”. All are unacceptible in the libs world.


9 posted on 03/12/2009 10:55:36 AM PDT by albie
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To: Between the Lines

The judge should be impeached.


10 posted on 03/12/2009 10:57:16 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: Between the Lines

I have serious concerns about the way my sister homeschools her son (he’s usually on his own!) Thats why I’m always a bit suspicious of homeschooling... But this lady seems to be doing a great job. Leave it to a liberal judge to drag these kids into a public school system to be indoctrinated.


11 posted on 03/12/2009 10:57:33 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: Between the Lines

It’d be good to see this story linked on drudge.


12 posted on 03/12/2009 10:57:38 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: beethovenfan

Mills was forced to defend her right to homeschool during divorce proceedings brought on by her husband’s unfaithfulness.

Adultery is the nation’s biggest problem. The husband(in this case)should be entitled to the clothes on his back. There needs to be serious consequences in these cases.


13 posted on 03/12/2009 10:58:14 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Between the Lines

With at least four years of Obama judicial nominees, it’s only going to get worse.


14 posted on 03/12/2009 11:00:32 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (I think we're gonna have another civil war.)
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To: Between the Lines

NC ... judge Mangum ... any relation to Crystal Gayle Mangum?


15 posted on 03/12/2009 11:00:45 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Government employment exists to provide a middle class lifestyle to otherwise, unemployable people)
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To: floridavoter2

I have serious concerns about the way my sister homeschools her son (he’s usually on his own!)

That’s the point, raising children who are capable of learning on their own. Hey, it worked for Ben Franklin.


16 posted on 03/12/2009 11:00:45 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: DieHard the Hunter

The missing information is couple is divorced. Divorce was due to Father committing adultery. Mother is Conservative Christian, Father is not. Father suddenly (after four years) wants kids to go to public school because he doesn’t want the children taught in Christianity. Since the two cannot agree, it goes to the courts. Courts say public school. I think Father was also going after custody on same basis.

That’s what I think remember from pre-court articles about this case over the last few months.


17 posted on 03/12/2009 11:01:04 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Quotes to this effect abound throughout history:

It is better to be uneducated than miseducated.


18 posted on 03/12/2009 11:01:47 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Between the Lines
she should not obey that order. sounds illegal on its face.

if she cannot homeschool, send them to a private school instead =o)

19 posted on 03/12/2009 11:02:40 AM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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To: Domandred
Thus the warning about being
unequally yoked (2 Cor 6:14-18)
20 posted on 03/12/2009 11:04:23 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
There is surely more to this story than meets the eye...

Well, sure ... but of course you know that having the full facts of a case takes all the fun out of a full-steam ahead rant.

21 posted on 03/12/2009 11:04:57 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Between the Lines

Start a movement to de throne the judge. Make some noise like Sharpton and co. and don’t stop.


22 posted on 03/12/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: Domandred; DieHard the Hunter
The missing information is couple is divorced.

This article is a definite case of "Consider the source."

What the author of this piece fails to tell you is that he (Adam Cothe) is a spokesman for the mother in this case.

He can be expected to tell only one side of the story ... and he has. Mr. Cothe is clearly not interested in telling you the other side of the story.

23 posted on 03/12/2009 11:13:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: devistate one four

I keep thinking of the phrase

“Henry Bowman, pick up the white phone...”

I just can’t place it, though.


24 posted on 03/12/2009 11:15:34 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Between the Lines

Judge Ned W. Mangum should begin paying support for these children immediately. After all, he’s assuming parental rights over them...


25 posted on 03/12/2009 11:18:03 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I was wondering the same thing.


26 posted on 03/12/2009 11:18:27 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Between the Lines

This judge would be at home in Germany. Homeschooling is strictly prohibited there via a law enacted by Der Feuher.


27 posted on 03/12/2009 11:22:15 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Of course it would be really excellent if the Judge had to
pay through the eyelashes for infringing upon a parents rights...
28 posted on 03/12/2009 11:24:56 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Between the Lines

Government’s afraid that the mom won’t give her kids leftist propaganda.


29 posted on 03/12/2009 11:24:57 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is truly evil. and liberals have no sense of humor either.)
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To: freedomfiter2

“There needs to be serious consequences in these cases.”

He won every thing he requested.


30 posted on 03/12/2009 11:39:36 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: Between the Lines

Stupid is as stupid judge.


31 posted on 03/12/2009 11:48:54 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: freedomfiter2

No, that isn’t the point of homeschooling. Children need guidance. He’s not even a teen yet. He needs help understanding concepts in math, his belief systems in religion, grammar points of English, etc. Just because one is being homeschooled doesn’t necessarily make it a quality education.


32 posted on 03/12/2009 12:05:32 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: All

da-dah-da-daaaaah....Mindcrime....


33 posted on 03/12/2009 12:05:45 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: floridavoter2

Ultimately the resonsibility to educate falls to the parent. If they chose not to educate their son then that is their choice. The government should have no say in it. What about all the public school kids that arent getting an education at school?
If he (your nephew) wants to learn he can do it on his own. I overcame the inadequacy of my public school education. He can do the same for his homeschool education.


34 posted on 03/12/2009 12:42:03 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: GeronL

Yeah and let the husband pay for it!


35 posted on 03/12/2009 12:43:28 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: r9etb

Obviously homeschooling was good enough for the dad for the FOUR years he was married to her. Why is it all of a sudden unacceptable?


36 posted on 03/12/2009 12:44:44 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
Obviously homeschooling was good enough for the dad for the FOUR years he was married to her. Why is it all of a sudden unacceptable?

No clue. Perhaps the mother is a fruit loop. Perhaps the judge really is a bad guy. Almost certainly, there is a lot more to this story than Mr. Adam Cothe chose to tell you.

My point is simply that the author of this piece has a vested interest in presenting the mother's side -- he is, after all, "a spokesman" for her. He cannot be trusted to give you a straight story.

37 posted on 03/12/2009 12:47:43 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: floridavoter2

I don’t know what your shcool was like, but in mine we had way more self directed learning than teacher talking time.


38 posted on 03/12/2009 1:17:01 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: nina0113

I saw it this morning. There’s a lot of corruption and incompetence in the courts in NC.


39 posted on 03/12/2009 1:46:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There are more enjoyable ways of going to Hell." ~ St. Bernard)
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To: Tax-chick
There is in my state directly to the east as well. Take a Liberal Judge, a liberal state agency or two, add a couple of liberal lawyers working for each one with liberal agendas, and you have an organized liberal oligarchy. True in your state and true in Tennessee as well so I've seen.
40 posted on 03/12/2009 2:08:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

Even in counties that aren’t controlled by Democrats, such as mine, the good ol’ boys are pretty much running the place for their own benefit. (The judge in this case is one of the Raleigh Mafia, so the author’s attempt to blame the Obama Administration for him doesn’t fly.) And the school systems and especially “social-welfare” agencies are heavily liberal, mainly I think because of the kind of people who go into that work in the first place. (School adminstrations are after the money, too, of course.)

This present case has a lot more going on than homeschooling, so I hesitate to comment. HSLDA isn’t mentioning it at this point on their site or in state-level communications.


41 posted on 03/12/2009 2:22:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There are more enjoyable ways of going to Hell." ~ St. Bernard)
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To: Tax-chick
Even in counties that aren’t controlled by Democrats, such as mine, the good ol’ boys are pretty much running the place for their own benefit.

Same thing here also.

42 posted on 03/12/2009 3:02:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Between the Lines

bump


43 posted on 03/12/2009 5:49:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Between the Lines

bump


44 posted on 03/12/2009 7:19:11 PM PDT by AngieGal
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45 posted on 03/12/2009 7:21:26 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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46 posted on 03/12/2009 7:21:39 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“There is surely more to this story than meets the eye...”

All leftist thought is of and from Satan, if that’s what you mean.


47 posted on 03/12/2009 9:39:13 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: Between the Lines

If I were her, I would get passports, make plans and move out of the US.


48 posted on 03/12/2009 9:49:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: floridavoter2
There will always be some homeschoolers who do not do a good job of homeschooling.

However, there are parents of public schoolers who do not have a hands-on approach to their children's education either which is evidenced by how poorly the students of our nation's educational system often perform compared to the rest of the world.

I might add the “socialization” and “opposing views” arguments which the liberal judge (as you correctly stated) brought up border on absurdity.

Most homeschoolers can interact with adults just as easily as they do with other kids and can, unlike Caroline Kennedy, do so without using the word “like” or the phrase “you know” more than once or twice in a conversation.

Their socialization is with people of varying ages rather than being couped up in a class room all day with kids their own age with the same emotional and maturity levels, and have to fight to survive the “law of the jungle” that often takes place in public school settings.

Also many homeschooling parents willing teach hot topic issues just so their children will know the opposing viewpoints. Most homeschooling kids watch TV, go to movies, and are on the internet, so they are constantly exposed to opposing viewpoints any way.

I have homeschooled for the past 10 years, and we are ending our homeschooling journey in May when my daughter graduates. Currently, she is a dual credit student at a local junior college and is carrying a 4.0. This is in addition to completing a few remaining courses at home.

Since I don't know how your sister runs her homeschooling efforts, I can't speak to what you have observed.

However, I can truthfully say the homeschooling families I have interacted with over the past 10 years take their task of homeschooling very seriously because they know their children's future depends on how well they, the parents, do their job. The parents also know the public sector will judge all homeschooling efforts by their own students’ failures or successes.

49 posted on 03/12/2009 10:41:46 PM PDT by Texas56 ("...most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Between the Lines
What an absolute disgrace!

This mother is doing a great job with the kids, so lets reverse everything that she did just to indoctrinate the kiddies. Disgusting.

And the judge justifies this how? The husband cheated so I am going to punish the children by forcing them into a sub-par education system run by liberal brainwashed idiots.

I don't home-school my kids, but I might just have to in the future rather than have their heads filled to the brim with absolute crap.

Un freakin believable!

50 posted on 03/13/2009 6:46:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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