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Hang on to Your Hats ... Mark Steyn
National Review ^ | 26 Jan 2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/13/2009 2:49:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: Rummyfan
Speaking of the days when male actors spoke in male voices, what about womens' voices today?

Female actresses and pop tarts have voices about an octave higher than those of yesteryear. High-pitched, childlike, tentative, whispy, immature voices spoken nasally and sometimes almost impossible to decipher all the words. I had hope this pre-adolescent tone of voice had died out after Jackie Kennedy worked it to death.

Lauren Bacall had a great lower-register voice, sultry, mature........and completely unsuitable for breathlessly warbling "Happy Birthday Mr. President" to Jack Kennedy as did Marilyn Monroe in her little girl voice.

Leni

61 posted on 03/13/2009 6:58:15 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Rummyfan; kellynla; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ..
Thanks for the Ping Rummyfan!

Pinging the Mark Steyn Ping List.

Welcome to the newest members of this ever expanding  list.




On or off, please FReepmail me.

As long as we are on the subject of Sinatra and Steyn, I give to you what I think is one of Steyns very best columns ever;

HOW DOES IT FEEEEEEEEL?
The National Post ^ | 5/24/01 | Mark Steyn

Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 12:33:51 PM by Paul Ross

HOW DOES IT FEEEEEEEEEEL?
From The National Post, May 24th 2001

I first noticed a sudden uptick in Bob Dylan articles maybe a couple of months ago, when instead of Pamela Anderson's breasts or J-Lo's bottom bursting through the National Post masthead there appeared to be a shriveled penis that had spent way too long in the bath. On closer inspection, this turned out to be Bob Dylan's head. He was, it seems, getting ready to celebrate his birthday. For today he turns 60.

Sixty? I think the last time I saw him on TV was the 80th birthday tribute to Sinatra six years ago, and, to judge from their respective states, if Frank was 80, Bob had to be at least 130. He mumbled his way through "Restless Farewell", though neither words nor tune were discernible, and then shyly offered, "Happy Birthday, Mister Frank." Frank sat through the number with a stunned look, no doubt thinking, "Geez, that's what I could look like in another 20, 25 years if I don't ease up on the late nights."

Still, Bob's made it to 60, and for that we should be grateful. After all, for the grizzled old hippies, folkies and peaceniks who spent the Sixties bellowing along with "How does it feeeeeel?" these have been worrying times. A couple of years ago, Bob's management were canceling his tours and the only people demanding to know "How does it feeeeeel?" were Dylan's doctors, treating him in New York for histoplasmosis, a fungal infection that in rare cases can lead to potentially fatal swelling in the pericardial sac. If the first question on your lips is "How is histoplasmosis spread?" well, it's caused by fungal spores which invade the lungs through airborne bat droppings. In other words, the answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.

He has, of course, looked famously unhealthy for years, even by the impressive standards of Sixties survivors. He was at the Vatican not so long ago and, although we do not know for certain what the Pope said as the leathery, wizened, stooped figure with gnarled hands and worn garb was ushered into the holy presence, it was probably something along the lines of, "Mother Teresa! But they told me you were dead!" "No, no, your Holiness," an aide would have hastily explained. "This is Bob Dylan, the voice of a disaffected generation."

It is not for me to join the vast army of Dylanologists who've been poring over his songs for 30 years. As Bob himself once said, "They are whatever they are to whoever's listening to them." End of story. But it does seem to me that, while most rock stars pursue eternal youth, Dylan has always sought premature geezerdom. The traditional elderly rocker look is best exemplified by Gram'pa Rod Stewart: peroxide hair with that toss-a-space-heater-in-the-bathtub look, tight gold lame pants with extravagant codpiece, pneumatic supermodel on your arm. By contrast, Bob, barely out of his teens, consciously adopted an aged singing voice and the experience it implied, a quintessentially Dylanesque jest on pop's Peter Pan ethos.

When he emerged in the early Sixties, he was supposedly a drifter who had spent years on the backroads of America picking up folk songs from wrinkly old-timers, and who provoked Robert Shelton of The New York Times to rhapsodize about "the rude beauty of a Southern field hand musing in melody on his porch." Actually, he'd toiled instead at the University of Minnesota -- a Jewish college boy, son of an appliance store manager. The folk songs he knew had been picked up not from any real live folk, but from the records of Ramblin' Jack Elliott. Ramblin' Jack had rambled over from Brooklyn, dropping his own Jewish name -- Elliott Adnopoz -- en route. "There was not another sonofabitch in the country that could sing until Bob Dylan came along," pronounced Ramblin' Jack, with a pithiness that belies his sobriquet. "Everybody else was singing like a damned faggot." It's one of the more modest claims made on Dylan's behalf.

His first album was composed almost entirely of traditional material. But by the second he was singing his own compositions, pioneering the musical oxymoron of the era, the "original folk song": No longer did a folk song have to be something of indeterminate origin sung by generations of inbred mountain men after a couple of jiggers of moonshine and a bunk-up with their sisters. Now a "folk song" could be "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" or "The Times They Are A- Changin'". I'm reminded of that episode of, appropriately enough, "The Golden Girls", when Estelle Getty comes rushing in shouting, "The hurricane's a-comin'! The hurricane's a-comin'!" "Ma!" Bea Arthur scolds her. "A-comin'?" With Dylan, the songwriting styles they were a-regressin', the slyly seductive archaisms and harmonica obbligato designed to evoke the integrity of American popular music before the Tin Pan Alley hucksters took over. "Without Bob the Beatles wouldn't have made Sergeant Pepper, the Beach Boys wouldn't have made Pet Sounds," said Bruce Springsteen. "U2 wouldn't have done Pride in the Name of Love," he continued, warming to his theme. "The Count Five would not have done Psychotic Reaction. There never would have been a group named the Electric Prunes." But why hold all that against him? If rock lyrics wound up as clogged and bloated as Dylan's pericardial sac, that's hardly his fault. Bob, for his part, has doggedly pursued his quest to turn back the clock. He's on the new Sopranos soundtrack CD, singing Dean Martin's "Return To Me", complete with chorus in Italian. Just the latest reinvention: Bob Dino, suburban crooner.

Visiting America a few years ago, Dave Stewart, of the Eurhythmics, said to Dylan that the next time he was in England he should drop by his recording studio in Crouch End, an undistinguished north London suburb. Dylan, at a loose end one afternoon, decided to take him up on it and asked a taxi-driver to take him to Crouch End Hill. Cruising the bewildering array of near-namesake streets -- Crouch End Hill, Crouch End Road, Crouch Hill End, Crouch Hill Road and various other permutations of "Crouch," "End" and "Hill" -- the cabbie accidentally dropped him off at the right number but in an adjoining street of small row houses. Dylan knocked at the front door and asked the woman who answered if Dave was in. As it happened, her husband was called Dave, so she said, "No, he's out on a call at the moment," and asked Bob if he'd like to wait. He said he would. Twenty minutes later, Dave -- the plumber, not the rock star -- returned and asked the missus whether there were any messages. "No," she said, "but Bob Dylan's in the front room having a cup of tea."

It's a sweet image, compounded by the subsequent rumour that Dylan had been seen with local realtors looking for a house in the area. Perhaps deep inside his southern field hand persona is a suburban sexagenarian pining for a quiet life in a residential cul de sac, dispensing advice over the fence to the next-door neighbour on how to keep your lawn free of grass clippings: "The answer, my friend, is mowin' in the wind." Happy birthday, Mister Bob.

CLASSIC STEYN !

Cheers,

knewshound

knewshounds blog


62 posted on 03/13/2009 7:01:41 AM PDT by knews_hound (I for one welcome our new Insect overlords!)
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To: pgyanke
Mel Gibson

Well, there have been some decent suggestions (the closest of which I would agree with is Tom Selleck), but I think the others just fall a little short. (My mom, however, swears that George Kloony could pull it off, but I'm just not seein' it.)

63 posted on 03/13/2009 7:02:13 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: I Buried My Guns
Although a young Denise Richards in a bikini is easier on my eyes

Yeah, but us ladies are swooning at our keyboards with all these pics of REAL MEN!

64 posted on 03/13/2009 7:05:21 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Mr. Know It All

You said it.

Some things are classic from the moment they come out, some will recognize it then, some only after a few decades.

And some men are still men, just a bit further from the usual haunts of Styne and Hanson apparently.


65 posted on 03/13/2009 7:09:28 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: knews_hound

Keith Richards is another one who isn’t too worried about looking his age. :)


66 posted on 03/13/2009 7:15:13 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: Rummyfan
In Sinatra’s time it was really cool to be 50, to be a man.

It's cool in my time, too. Dick Cheney, James Morrison, Scott Glenn, Tom Selleck ... and Bibi Netanyahu and my personal spouse are getting there, but not yet Arrived.

67 posted on 03/13/2009 7:18:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("There are more enjoyable ways of going to Hell." ~ St. Bernard)
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To: Rummyfan

Re: Sinatra. What a goofy lookin’ guy he was...but those EYES! Gorgeous. :)

Re: Men, today. Look to the Presidency. We have a freakin’ inexperienced INTERN with his finger on the button. Eeeek!


68 posted on 03/13/2009 7:20:09 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Family Guy

I have to tell you that I’m near sixty, and I don’t like hardly anything new. That includes movies as well as music. And the musicians I used to love, Paul Simon for example, put out garbage. Simon’s last three albums wer virtually all trash. I’m getting to the point where I think no one will ever write anything good again. I’d love to be proven wrong, but it looks pretty bad from my vantage point.


69 posted on 03/13/2009 7:25:11 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: COBOL2Java

Wounded at Anzio, which accounted for the ‘hitch’ in his step.


70 posted on 03/13/2009 7:26:23 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: 3catsanadog

Keith looks like he shared a birthday cake with Tutankamuhn.


71 posted on 03/13/2009 7:31:11 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: MinuteGal
voice change has to do with smoking... in movies and even music there are now digital software packages that can adjust pitch, timbre and even modulate notes in your vocal tracks.

In a way that's what's good about American Idol. They have to be able to sing a cappella. An example is Sting. Millions of records and good stage show, but when he did a "musical" he couldn't pull it off with his weak high pitched pipes. Lots of examples like that. Not so much in country cause of the importance on lyrics, but rock and the other cr#p lends itself to digitizing stuff and covering up flaws.

72 posted on 03/13/2009 7:31:22 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: publius1
Boyhood's been pathologized and young males drugged into submission.

Sad indeed and everyone loses.

73 posted on 03/13/2009 7:35:57 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Rummyfan

With the Muzzlims... hold onto your head too


74 posted on 03/13/2009 7:48:38 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: MagnoliaMS

Ping


75 posted on 03/13/2009 7:54:37 AM PDT by Birmingham Rain ("Where you tend a rose, my lad, a thistle cannot grow." (The Secret Garden))
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To: Mr. Know It All
Elvis and the Beatles were declared passing fads, too. Yes, most popular culture is stupid and fades away, but there's just so much of it that a steady trickle of classics emerges. Another swing and a miss for Steyn.

Uh, hate to break it to you, but most young people today have no clue about Elvis or the Beatles. In 20 years, even fewer were. 20 years after that, the only young folks who have much of a clue about them will be students who are studying ancient music.

The truth of the matter is that Elvis and the Beatles WERE a fad. They are a long-lasting fad because the generation that lionized them, the Baby Doomers, have been running things for about 20 years now. When they start dying off, the fad will die with them.
76 posted on 03/13/2009 7:57:55 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every time Obama speaks, I buy more silver.)
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To: Antoninus
The truth of the matter is that Elvis and the Beatles WERE a fad. They are a long-lasting fad because the generation that lionized them, the Baby Doomers, have been running things for about 20 years now. When they start dying off, the fad will die with them.

Elvis was a "silent generation" star, he wasn't a giant to the boomers that never got to know him before he went into the army. In 1960 the "silent generation" ranged from age 15 to 35, by the time boomers started coming along Elvis was in his last years and never really grabbed them.

It will be quite a while before boomers like Sarah Palin start "dying off" so don't hold your breath.

77 posted on 03/13/2009 8:23:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Elvis was a "silent generation" star, he wasn't a giant to the boomers that never got to know him before he went into the army.

Tell that to my boomer relatives. In truth, most of the "silent generation" folks I know, including my mom and her family, were into big-band and Sinatra and remain so to this day.

It will be quite a while before boomers like Sarah Palin start "dying off" so don't hold your breath.

Do you actually know when the baby boomer generation started? Sarah Palin is clearly not one.
78 posted on 03/13/2009 8:27:42 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every time Obama speaks, I buy more silver.)
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To: publius1
We are getting as generation of males who are men only anatomically; they have no idea what it means to be a man. The culture doesn’t tell them, their girlfriends or significant others don’t tell them, and their parents don’t tell them.

And the men in their professions don't mentor them, either. That's been lost as well.

79 posted on 03/13/2009 8:32:33 AM PDT by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
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To: knews_hound

I love Dylan’s music. My wife hates it with a passion.

In my teens and early twenties, most of my income came from playing in a band, being a church pianist, and playing at weddings and the like. Musicians are much more likely than the public at large to like Dylan’s music.


80 posted on 03/13/2009 8:36:58 AM PDT by DallasMike
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