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Steele Slips Again, But America Should not Fall for it - ALAN KEYES challenges Steele to debate!
America's Independent Party ^ | Friday, March 13, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance

We need to work on getting Steele out of there quick. - He is a real loose cannon.


101 posted on 03/13/2009 3:49:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Mojave

Nonsense. It wasn’t the reasoning of Blackmun. It was an admission that in order to allow for abortion they had to strip away the humanity of the child to even have ANY way of overcoming the Constitution’s most explicit provisions.

I think those who admit that the unborn child is a person and yet think that in America that child can still be “legally” killed are worse than Blackmun. They’ve gone one more large stride down the road to the complete destruction of liberty in America.

That’s right. Liberty’s very premise is that government’s abiding and paramount reason for being is the protection of innocent human life. ALL governments. At every level.

The current ignorance of America’s most fundamental principles among the people, even here on FreeRepublic, is appalling.


102 posted on 03/13/2009 3:51:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Mojave
Horse manure. And unquoted, naturally.

Gosh. I guess you should have read the post right after it, which went up not even a minute later.

103 posted on 03/13/2009 3:53:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Teacher317

The Inalienable right he was takling about was the right to life.


104 posted on 03/13/2009 3:55:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: EternalVigilance
It wasn’t the reasoning of Blackmun. It was an admission

Which formed part of the basis for Blackmun's "reasoning" stripping the states of their historic and inherent police powers, then substituting a purported 14th Amendment right of women to kill their babies. Leftists use the 14th Amendment as the basis for unlimited federal powers in place of the states.

105 posted on 03/13/2009 3:55:59 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: EternalVigilance

At first I liked Steele after seeing him on FOX during the year. I changed my mind when he threw Rush under the bus on that black liberal show and then when he gave in to the pro choice question. To me it’s fence sitting or like voting “present”. Luke warm water makes you want to spit it out. He doesn’t have the backbone to stand up for what the party represents. Sorry Steele, we need a natural born leader not a wuss.


106 posted on 03/13/2009 3:56:34 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: EternalVigilance
Gosh. I guess you should have read the post right after it, which went up not even a minute later.

Which even in your heavily altered form failed to support your claims.

107 posted on 03/13/2009 3:57:09 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Deb

what a bizzare tagline.


108 posted on 03/13/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (It's time for the grown ups !)
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To: editor-surveyor

If I was looking out solely for my own self-interest, I’d want him to stay right where he is. I’m the chairman of the third-largest party in the country, and he’s a one-man wrecking crew.

You throw him out and they’ll probably pick someone who isn’t fundamentally different than Steele on principle, but who is a more capable liar.

But we’ve made a commitment to challenge anyone who holds the egregious views that Steele holds, no matter the personal cost.


109 posted on 03/13/2009 3:57:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Albion Wilde

Are you sure there would be enough folks left on the other side to mount such an effort in the hardcore baby butchery states? Many Freepers on this thread seem to advocate leaving a state in protest that babies may be butchered. Besides, I bet it would be just as difficult or even easier to pass some type of national legislation than to try to outlaw baby butchery in NY or CA.

Overturning roe is a start. But then, I bet it will take national action to save those Americans who have the bad luck to be in the womb in a pro-baby butchery states. It would be like tolerating being able to enslave Americans in some states.

Freegards


110 posted on 03/13/2009 4:01:48 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Mojave
Which even in your heavily altered form failed to support your claims.

They're not "altered" one tiny bit. The so-called Preamble, the Fifth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment are all lists. Leaving out the other items on those lists does not change the substance even one iota. It simply clarifies what it explicitly says.

And since folks like you obviously need some clarity brought to this most important of all questions, I simply helped you out.

Sorry. But you can't kill innocent persons in America no matter who you are and claim to be within the bounds of the clear provisions of our Constitution. All you can do is dehumanize the child, lie, and/or obfuscate the truth.

111 posted on 03/13/2009 4:04:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: TheKidster

And, Steele was right, ‘abortion is an individual choice”...the woman ( and man if involved) CHOOSE abortion...whether legally, or illegally. That was his point.

Even if you go state by state, the issue still has not been dealt with by conservatives, that is always a hidden argument...do you just prosecute the doctor? Or also the woman...and husband if they “choose” abortion? Until that is clarifed, we send a lot of conflicting messages. After all, all those involved would be complicit.


112 posted on 03/13/2009 4:05:30 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (It's time for the grown ups !)
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To: infidel29
To think if only Keyes had won Illinois back in ‘04 where might we be now.

He couldn't have had...These Steele supportors threw him under the bus and gave us 'Obama' instead...

113 posted on 03/13/2009 4:06:39 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: icwhatudo
both who would be ignored if not for the color of their skin.

Sadly, if Alan were white he would be a much more formidable spokesman, for conservative candidates, maybe even been President.

114 posted on 03/13/2009 4:10:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: ex-snook
The GOP leadership knew what they were getting with Steele.

Exactly! Unfortunately they want business as usual, they seem to enjoy secondary status. That’s good because that is where they shall remain.

115 posted on 03/13/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: EternalVigilance
They're not "altered" one tiny bit.

The...multiple...redactions...don't...count...? Is...that...a...new...14th...Amendment...emanation...of...a...penumbra?

But you can't kill innocent persons in America no matter who you are

But you think that the judicial expansion of the 14th Amendment and the transfer of state police powers to the federal government that resulted in the killings of millions of babies should not only stand, but should be strengthened. Making the federal district courts the sole arbiters of the respective rights of mother and child is a recipe for more of the same. Which is why the left loves judicial legislation and twisting the wording of the Constitution.

116 posted on 03/13/2009 4:15:08 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Deb
You and all the Steele bashers are dupes.

Hardly, Steele is not the right man for the job. There may not even be a right man, but Steele is doing more damage than he is worth.

117 posted on 03/13/2009 4:16:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Iscool
Actually I blame all our Nation's woes on Mike Ditka. If he had either accepted the (R) invitation to run vs. Obama or declined it earlier Keyes might have had more time to mount an effective campaign.

...not to mention allowing that freakshow "refrigerator" Perry to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl instead of the greatest football player in history, Walter Payton.

118 posted on 03/13/2009 4:16:45 PM PDT by infidel29 (2008, a year I'd like to forget)
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To: Norman Bates
Yes, and considering how thoroughly he was clobbered back then

You care to post a narrative on how all of Obama's opponents were clobbered, in Illinois?

119 posted on 03/13/2009 4:20:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: Ransomed
Overturning roe is a start. But then, I bet it will take national action to save those Americans who have the bad luck to be in the womb in a pro-baby butchery states. It would be like tolerating being able to enslave Americans in some states.

Overturning this may be a patchwork of increments, as was slavery. It was legal in some states, illegal in others. Some states mandated returning runaways to their "owners"; others did not. The fights started over whether to allow slavery in the newly-acquired territories. This is and will continue to be a long war. Please read post 91.

120 posted on 03/13/2009 4:22:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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