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Steele Slips Again, But America Should not Fall for it - ALAN KEYES challenges Steele to debate!
America's Independent Party ^ | Friday, March 13, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Mojave
You stand with Blackmun and the enemies of orginal intent

So, you think "original intent" was to allow the slaughter of 50 million innocents. Uhuh.

141 posted on 03/13/2009 7:05:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Mojave

Doesn’t matter if you kill, or abet killing, in the name of “privacy” or “states’ rights,” it’s still the killing of innocent human beings. It makes no difference why you do it to those whose lives and humanity is being stripped away. They’re just as dead either way.

And our Constitution, our free republic, and liberty, are dead too.


142 posted on 03/13/2009 7:09:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: EternalVigilance
So, you think "original intent" was to allow the slaughter of 50 million innocents.

The destruction of state laws protecting the unborn by your hero Blackmun did that.

Now it's time for you to hide your eyes again:

“The only conclusion possible from this history is that the drafters did not intend to have the Fourteenth Amendment withdraw from the States the power to legislate with respect to this matter.”
—William Rehnquist, Roe v. Wade: Dissent

143 posted on 03/13/2009 7:10:41 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave

Are babies PERSONS, Mojave?

A yes or no answer will suffice.


144 posted on 03/13/2009 7:11:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: EternalVigilance
Doesn’t matter if you kill, or abet killing, in the name of “privacy” or “states’ rights,” it’s still the killing of innocent human beings.

The mass killing of the unborn has been done in the name of the 14th Amendment.

145 posted on 03/13/2009 7:12:05 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave

That’s not the Fourteenth Amendments fault. As you’ve proven in spades, if people want to ignore the clear meanings of words there isn’t much you can do about that.


146 posted on 03/13/2009 7:14:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: EternalVigilance
Are babies PERSONS, Mojave? A yes or no answer will suffice.

Apparently not.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2206091/posts?page=96#96

147 posted on 03/13/2009 7:15:39 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: EternalVigilance
That’s not the Fourteenth Amendments fault.

Right. The reason is the Constitution haters that want to twist the 14th Amendment to unduly expand federal powers. Your side.

“The only conclusion possible from this history is that the drafters did not intend to have the Fourteenth Amendment withdraw from the States the power to legislate with respect to this matter.” —William Rehnquist, Roe v. Wade: Dissent

148 posted on 03/13/2009 7:17:55 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
Yes

Well, that makes you worse than Blackmun. He at least tried to maintain the illusion that he cared about the Constitution's clear provisions which protect innocent persons.

He said, "They're not persons, so you can kill them."

You say, "They are persons, but you can kill them anyway. States are not bound to protect unalienable rights."

I say they're persons, created in the image of the One Who created them. That means that their right to live is unalienable. With the founders, I understand that natural rights, of which the right to life is foremost, preceded the existence of this country or our Constitution, and that all American republican governments, at every level, were devised and empowered by the consent of the governed to protect and secure those rights.

149 posted on 03/13/2009 7:23:56 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Mojave

Just exactly which part of “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws” do you fail to comprehend?


150 posted on 03/13/2009 7:26:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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The ironies of this thread abound far more than the casual reader may know. And so, I’m going to state a few personal facts.

A) After twenty years as a committed Republican, extremely active in my party at the local, the state and the national levels, I left that party last year in complete disgust at its utter corruption and failure to adhere to the principles I care deeply about.

B) Also last year, I founded America’s Independent Party, which is completely committed to the principles I care deeply about.

C) While the pathetic Chairman of the RNC and his minions defend Gerald R. Ford’s and John McCain’s fake destructive “states’ rights trump the right to life” position, we continue to defend the Reagan Republican pro-life position, the stated position of THEIR platform, which recognizes the personhood of the unborn, and their resultant protection by the Fourteenth Amendment.

And the final irony?

D) While they do NOTHING to even help their OWN conservative pro-life candidates, we continue to do so at some personal sacrifice.


151 posted on 03/13/2009 7:53:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: EternalVigilance

Abortion is murder. It is not a choice. Steele is a far left liberal and this interview is just an illustration of what many of us already suspected.

However, abortion laws need to be administered and prosecuted at the state level. The founders understood that our Constitution was made for a moral people. America is allegedly a nation with a Christian majority yet abortion, divorce and sodomy are epidemic. Unless there is a widespread repentance and re-awakening of Christians abortion will never be made illegal at the local, state or federal level. The federal government does not have the authority to enforce murder laws within the several states of the union, and I do not want them to assume that authority. There is a great risk that they would use that authority for other purposes. Humanists trust in the goodness of man. I do not.


152 posted on 03/13/2009 8:17:39 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: EternalVigilance

ALL RIGHT! Allan Keyes will HUMILIATE Michael Steele!


153 posted on 03/13/2009 8:46:42 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: EternalVigilance
He said, "They're not persons, so you can kill them."

Fake quote. Leftist love to lie.

You say, "They are persons, but you can kill them anyway. States are not bound to protect unalienable rights."

Fake quote. Leftist love to lie.

154 posted on 03/13/2009 8:55:17 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Just exactly which part of “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws” do you fail to comprehend?

Really bad case of projection.

155 posted on 03/13/2009 8:56:16 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: SecAmndmt

This is not an either/or question. It is “all of the above.”

All officers of the United States, at every level, swear to defend and uphold the Constitution, a document that states as its crowning purpose the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

The organic law of the United States, in all its parts, recognizes and protects innocent human life. The constitutions of all fifty states do the same.

Oaths before Almighty God are not a light thing.

And those oaths were sworn before the people as well. It’s time that the people demand that those oaths be kept.

If we won’t make and enforce that imperative demand, this country, and the liberty of its people, cannot be saved. This is an inevitability. If the foundations are destroyed, the house cannot possibly stand.


156 posted on 03/13/2009 8:58:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Mojave

You have a twisted view of words. I begin to suspect you went to law school.


157 posted on 03/13/2009 8:59:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: Mojave

It’s the substance of your argument, such as it is. You can cry about it, but you can’t change the reality of it.


158 posted on 03/13/2009 9:00:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: EternalVigilance
All officers of the United States, at every level, swear to defend and uphold the Constitution

Which should include defending it against those who misrepresent it and deliberately alter its meaning.

"The only conclusion possible from this history is that the drafters did not intend to have the Fourteenth Amendment withdraw from the States the power to legislate with respect to this matter."
—William Rehnquist, Roe v. Wade: Dissent

159 posted on 03/13/2009 9:01:28 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: EternalVigilance
It’s the substance of your argument

Backwards. Your lies are the foundation of your argument.

160 posted on 03/13/2009 9:02:19 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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