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Wash state: 'Ax Men' crew salvaged logs illegally
The Seattle Times ^ | 3/13/09

Posted on 03/13/2009 4:36:03 PM PDT by llevrok

SEATTLE — The state Department of Natural Resources has seized more than two dozen logs it says a timber crew featured on the History Channel's reality show 'Ax Men' salvaged illegally.

DNR chief enforcement officer Larry Raedel says officers served a search warrant Friday on S&S Aqua Logging to retrieve timber the company had pulled from the Hoquiam River.

Raedel says the company didn't have a permit to salvage those logs, and DNR officer were tipped off after watching the show.

Calls to the company were not immediately returned. The company is one of several timber crews featured in the second season of "Ax Men."

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: axmen; historychannel; nannystate; timber
The orphaned logs sat in the river for 50+ years. Now that some one has shown enterprise to extract the navigation hazards and turn a buck, the State shows interest.

F'n government!

1 posted on 03/13/2009 4:36:03 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

One guy and his son and now they’re out of business.


2 posted on 03/13/2009 4:39:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: llevrok

I was thinking along similar lines.


3 posted on 03/13/2009 4:39:28 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: llevrok

Unbelievable.

That said... I watched those guys, and while he may know some about milling old logs into pretty things, they didn’t know a *thing* about running a boat. Was rather a comedy of errors.


4 posted on 03/13/2009 4:40:16 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: llevrok

I will admit that I have only seen the promos for this show. But based on the promos, the people on this show are the biggest idiots alive.


5 posted on 03/13/2009 4:40:19 PM PDT by gridlock (BTW, Mods... It might be time to add "Barack" and "Obama" to spellcheck)
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To: llevrok

Can’t have people salvaging logs because...well...we just can’t.


6 posted on 03/13/2009 4:42:04 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Posting bandwidth consuming jpgs since 2000.)
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To: GSWarrior

Mostly because they’re worth big bucks.


7 posted on 03/13/2009 4:43:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: llevrok
And now we are so dependent on that same government that people call them when McDonald's runs out of chicken nuggets.

We are sooooo screwed.

8 posted on 03/13/2009 4:44:26 PM PDT by txroadkill (God Help Us-The Rats are in charge! And they aren't paying their taxes!)
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To: llevrok
Probably some gaddamn-dipshit-tree-hugger-gypsy punk ratted them out. This is all the more reason to saw the friggin' trees down while the diseased little fags are sitting in them, protesting.


9 posted on 03/13/2009 4:45:40 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The Occupation has begun. God help America.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Was rather a comedy of errors.

True but they were just learning.
10 posted on 03/13/2009 4:46:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: llevrok
Just watching this last night I wondered, Why the heck hasn't someone taken these things before. The stupid guy screaming at his kid and was bragging that the logs are worth $10K a piece. Then they ran out of gas!

Ssshhhhhh!

11 posted on 03/13/2009 4:47:32 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah - that was pretty clear!

Ridiculous for the state to have any interest at all in logs that have been submerged for 50 years. Heck, some of them were navigation hazards, and it’s a favor to remove them.


12 posted on 03/13/2009 4:49:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: GSWarrior

They can’t because the govt didn’t get their piece of the action.


13 posted on 03/13/2009 4:52:17 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: cripplecreek

So what? They did the labor, and I am assuming they own the land the river’s on (or had permission). It’s not government’s right to confiscate property because “they didnt have a permit (pay the tax + register)”.


14 posted on 03/13/2009 4:53:05 PM PDT by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Viking2002

Now Now V2002 you need to lay off the red meat and eat a little more toofooo.


15 posted on 03/13/2009 4:53:32 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: JSDude1

No - they didn’t own the land, it’s on a ‘public waterway’ the river.


16 posted on 03/13/2009 4:55:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: llevrok

all these companies are bringing them in and i suspect some churches too.


17 posted on 03/13/2009 4:56:31 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: llevrok

Will there be a budget buster to build an evidence room for the illegal logs?

Will the logs will have to be destroyed so that no one can benefit from the ill gotten gains?

OR, will there be millions spent replacing them from whence they came (environmental studies first, of course)?

24 old logs.

And they voted (not the logs... I hope)


18 posted on 03/13/2009 4:57:30 PM PDT by This_far
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To: gridlock
the people on this show are the biggest idiots alive.

Because they aren't sitting at home looking for welfare?
19 posted on 03/13/2009 4:57:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: gridlock

Having family in the timber industry, I can say that they really overplay a lot of the dramatic elements. I’ve also been told that it’s a surprise that OSHA hasn’t come down on them for some of the stunts they have pulled on the program. However, I don’t think that the label “biggest idiots alive” is warranted at all. Have you ever tried to do this kind of work? As a teen one summer, I worked as a little scrub doing clean-up work on the landings and it kicked my ass. And that was nothing compared to the real jobs of the cutters, choker setters, etc. One thing that is very true is the level of danger in that line of work. I have nothing but respect for these guys.


20 posted on 03/13/2009 5:05:01 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: HairOfTheDog

As I understand it the EPA, DEQ, etc have raised all kinds of hell over logs salvaged from the bottom of the great lakes as well.


21 posted on 03/13/2009 5:06:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: sionnsar

*ping*


22 posted on 03/13/2009 5:06:25 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: hedgetrimmer; gridlock
Because they aren't sitting at home looking for welfare?

Agreed.

I grew up in the town where these two guys live. Your basic logger, who may be an idiot like any city slicker, will never be proud to take welfare.

These two guys may be a log short of a load, but they are workin' and loggin'

23 posted on 03/13/2009 5:06:37 PM PDT by llevrok ("I have never understood multiparty democracy." - HR Clinton 3/6/09)
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To: llevrok

Those old submerged logs are worth a fortune. Probably some kind of special license required to harvest them. Government always has to have its tribute.


24 posted on 03/13/2009 5:08:03 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: llevrok

THANK GOD we are saved from that catastrophe by our government!!!

What will the do with the ‘siezed logs’ and exactly how much is it costing us?


25 posted on 03/13/2009 5:09:08 PM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: llevrok
Coming to a time where the feds are going to get run out of businesses or just thrown out.
26 posted on 03/13/2009 5:09:37 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: thecabal

I worked in a sawmill for a while and that can be awfully dangerous. As it was explained to me that we were working with “Un Engineered” materials and there is danger inherent in that.

I was working in a safe zone once and ended up with broken ribs because of a log that got bound up and shattered. I was just lucky that it hit me flat instead of pointy end first.


27 posted on 03/13/2009 5:10:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: llevrok

One of the most dangerous places in the world is between a bureaucrat and his need to justify his job.

A bureaucrat will move heaven and earth; he will sacrifice anyone, anything, in order to justify his job.


28 posted on 03/13/2009 5:14:49 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything youÂ’ve been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Libertina; kayti; narses; Avid Coug; RedinaBlue; trustandhope; SoldierMedic; Global2010; ...
Pretty thin story from the Seattle Times.

Oh well, thanks to Robwin for the ping.

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Say WA? Evergreen State ping

Quick link: WA State Board

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this ping list.

Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

29 posted on 03/13/2009 5:18:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: denydenydeny
One of the most dangerous places in the world is between a bureaucrat and his need to justify his job.

It has also be said the position between Joe Biden and a TV camera is pretty dangerous.

30 posted on 03/13/2009 5:25:59 PM PDT by llevrok ("I have never understood multiparty democracy." - HR Clinton 3/6/09)
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To: gridlock

Why are loggers idiots?


31 posted on 03/13/2009 5:27:03 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: llevrok
History Channel's reality show 'Ax Men'

I remember when the History Channel used to have shows about history.

32 posted on 03/13/2009 5:33:39 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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To: llevrok

Can’t have the little guy trying to make something of himself. Why, if he succeeds he might inspire others to do the same. If those people then try and succeed themselves; it could spread like a virus!

The .gov fish redistribution racket would come to a screeching halt.


33 posted on 03/13/2009 5:48:44 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean (1 O types of people. Those that think O is the 1; and everyone else.)
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To: llevrok; Viking2002
"F'n government!"

Right the hell on llevrok! Evidently the parasites (Queen Christine and her winged monkeys) didn't get their cut. GDworthlessleechbastardF'ngovernment.

34 posted on 03/13/2009 6:08:21 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: llevrok

Harvesting deadwood is a meritorious activity. Good grief, those guys out in Seattle are crazy. As if we didn’t already know that.

As for dangerous, two of the most dangerous professions are logging and fishing or lobstering (at sea).


35 posted on 03/13/2009 6:31:41 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: llevrok

Stimulatin’ the economy, one family business at a time...


36 posted on 03/13/2009 7:24:48 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: cripplecreek
"One guy and his son"

After watching that show, I don't think the son is going to be in business with is obnoxious father much longer

37 posted on 03/13/2009 8:20:59 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: freeplancer; gridlock
Why are loggers idiots?

Because they work with their hands and bodies instead of pushing paper around! /s

38 posted on 03/13/2009 8:38:28 PM PDT by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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To: freeplancer

I did not say that loggers, in general, are idiots. I said that these particular loggers are idiots.


39 posted on 03/14/2009 4:35:31 AM PDT by gridlock (BTW, Mods... It might be time to add "Barack" and "Obama" to spellcheck)
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To: gridlock

You didn’t even say loggers, you said ‘these people.’

Amazing how quick some are to imagine things you didn’t say and then insult you over it.

And I agree, they’re hamming it up/behaving foolishly for the cameras and that is by definition, idiotic.


40 posted on 03/14/2009 6:14:19 AM PDT by Troy McGreggor
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh

OHMYGAWD.

I only just tonight caught a re-run of the guys you were talking about. I was prepared to cut them some slack... but wow, those “aqua logging” guys are a catastrophe.

First, they’ve got no business being on the water. He clearly knows nothing about driving boats, especially in rivers. He’s gonna get people killed. Next, he’s got homebuilt equipment that just isn’t close to what he needs for that kind of work.

That “winch” has what looks like polypro line for most of it, though it also looks like a few different lengths of different kinds of rope have been tied together... wrong way to do it. That stuff will break and snap back something furious. Those logs outweigh him and his gear by many, many tons.

But more than anything they just don’t know what they are doing. It looks like he doesn’t even have a plan for what to do when he gets a log rigged up.

Yikes... He’s going to lose that boat and whoever is on it. But at least they’ll catch it all on video.


41 posted on 03/22/2009 11:11:51 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Yikes is right! :~)

I guess we missed the new one last night.


42 posted on 03/23/2009 7:41:58 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: llevrok

Where is the outrage that should be there for the little girl that got mauled and killed by Jesse’s dog? Which the dog had already bit a family member.The guy should be in jail for child endangerment.


43 posted on 03/07/2011 12:03:29 PM PST by jarofants
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To: Poison Pill
I remember when MTV used to play Music Video's too.
44 posted on 03/07/2011 12:10:43 PM PST by jarofants
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