Skip to comments.Wash state: 'Ax Men' crew salvaged logs illegally
Posted on 03/13/2009 4:36:03 PM PDT by llevrok
SEATTLE The state Department of Natural Resources has seized more than two dozen logs it says a timber crew featured on the History Channel's reality show 'Ax Men' salvaged illegally.
DNR chief enforcement officer Larry Raedel says officers served a search warrant Friday on S&S Aqua Logging to retrieve timber the company had pulled from the Hoquiam River.
Raedel says the company didn't have a permit to salvage those logs, and DNR officer were tipped off after watching the show.
Calls to the company were not immediately returned. The company is one of several timber crews featured in the second season of "Ax Men."
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One guy and his son and now they’re out of business.
I was thinking along similar lines.
That said... I watched those guys, and while he may know some about milling old logs into pretty things, they didn’t know a *thing* about running a boat. Was rather a comedy of errors.
I will admit that I have only seen the promos for this show. But based on the promos, the people on this show are the biggest idiots alive.
Can’t have people salvaging logs because...well...we just can’t.
Mostly because they’re worth big bucks.
We are sooooo screwed.
Yeah - that was pretty clear!
Ridiculous for the state to have any interest at all in logs that have been submerged for 50 years. Heck, some of them were navigation hazards, and it’s a favor to remove them.
They can’t because the govt didn’t get their piece of the action.
So what? They did the labor, and I am assuming they own the land the river’s on (or had permission). It’s not government’s right to confiscate property because “they didnt have a permit (pay the tax + register)”.
Now Now V2002 you need to lay off the red meat and eat a little more toofooo.
No - they didn’t own the land, it’s on a ‘public waterway’ the river.
all these companies are bringing them in and i suspect some churches too.
Will there be a budget buster to build an evidence room for the illegal logs?
Will the logs will have to be destroyed so that no one can benefit from the ill gotten gains?
OR, will there be millions spent replacing them from whence they came (environmental studies first, of course)?
24 old logs.
And they voted (not the logs... I hope)
Having family in the timber industry, I can say that they really overplay a lot of the dramatic elements. I’ve also been told that it’s a surprise that OSHA hasn’t come down on them for some of the stunts they have pulled on the program. However, I don’t think that the label “biggest idiots alive” is warranted at all. Have you ever tried to do this kind of work? As a teen one summer, I worked as a little scrub doing clean-up work on the landings and it kicked my ass. And that was nothing compared to the real jobs of the cutters, choker setters, etc. One thing that is very true is the level of danger in that line of work. I have nothing but respect for these guys.
As I understand it the EPA, DEQ, etc have raised all kinds of hell over logs salvaged from the bottom of the great lakes as well.
I grew up in the town where these two guys live. Your basic logger, who may be an idiot like any city slicker, will never be proud to take welfare.
These two guys may be a log short of a load, but they are workin' and loggin'
Those old submerged logs are worth a fortune. Probably some kind of special license required to harvest them. Government always has to have its tribute.
THANK GOD we are saved from that catastrophe by our government!!!
What will the do with the ‘siezed logs’ and exactly how much is it costing us?
I worked in a sawmill for a while and that can be awfully dangerous. As it was explained to me that we were working with “Un Engineered” materials and there is danger inherent in that.
I was working in a safe zone once and ended up with broken ribs because of a log that got bound up and shattered. I was just lucky that it hit me flat instead of pointy end first.
One of the most dangerous places in the world is between a bureaucrat and his need to justify his job.
A bureaucrat will move heaven and earth; he will sacrifice anyone, anything, in order to justify his job.
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It has also be said the position between Joe Biden and a TV camera is pretty dangerous.
Why are loggers idiots?
I remember when the History Channel used to have shows about history.
Can’t have the little guy trying to make something of himself. Why, if he succeeds he might inspire others to do the same. If those people then try and succeed themselves; it could spread like a virus!
The .gov fish redistribution racket would come to a screeching halt.
Right the hell on llevrok! Evidently the parasites (Queen Christine and her winged monkeys) didn't get their cut. GDworthlessleechbastardF'ngovernment.
Harvesting deadwood is a meritorious activity. Good grief, those guys out in Seattle are crazy. As if we didn’t already know that.
As for dangerous, two of the most dangerous professions are logging and fishing or lobstering (at sea).
Stimulatin’ the economy, one family business at a time...
After watching that show, I don't think the son is going to be in business with is obnoxious father much longer
Because they work with their hands and bodies instead of pushing paper around! /s
I did not say that loggers, in general, are idiots. I said that these particular loggers are idiots.
You didn’t even say loggers, you said ‘these people.’
Amazing how quick some are to imagine things you didn’t say and then insult you over it.
And I agree, they’re hamming it up/behaving foolishly for the cameras and that is by definition, idiotic.
I only just tonight caught a re-run of the guys you were talking about. I was prepared to cut them some slack... but wow, those “aqua logging” guys are a catastrophe.
First, they’ve got no business being on the water. He clearly knows nothing about driving boats, especially in rivers. He’s gonna get people killed. Next, he’s got homebuilt equipment that just isn’t close to what he needs for that kind of work.
That “winch” has what looks like polypro line for most of it, though it also looks like a few different lengths of different kinds of rope have been tied together... wrong way to do it. That stuff will break and snap back something furious. Those logs outweigh him and his gear by many, many tons.
But more than anything they just don’t know what they are doing. It looks like he doesn’t even have a plan for what to do when he gets a log rigged up.
Yikes... He’s going to lose that boat and whoever is on it. But at least they’ll catch it all on video.
Yikes is right! :~)
I guess we missed the new one last night.
Where is the outrage that should be there for the little girl that got mauled and killed by Jesse’s dog? Which the dog had already bit a family member.The guy should be in jail for child endangerment.