Skip to comments.Morally Unserious in the Extreme (Charles Krauthammer)
Posted on 03/13/2009 10:53:01 PM PDT by STARWISEEdited on 03/14/2009 5:06:16 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Last week, the White House invited me to a signing ceremony overturning the Bush (43) executive order on stem cell research. I assume this was because I have long argued in these columns and during my five years on the President's Council on Bioethics that, contrary to the Bush policy, federal funding should be extended to research on embryonic stem cell lines derived from discarded embryos in fertility clinics.
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I thought it was above his paygrade.
And i never hear a good explanation. If it really will change medicine the way they claim, make the paraplegic walk, etc. Then why is no private money interested in funding and patenting the research?
It would be like discovering viagra, times 50.
Krauthammer sounds ambiguous about abortion.
Do plants have stem cells?
In theory, is it possible to grow an apple or a marijuana bud in a petri dish?
No soil, no pests, no stalks or leaves, no weather.
In theory, it seems like a productivity miracle.
The hammer is right on once again. He knocks over Obama’s army of straw men.
“Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It”
Hydroponic gardening as an industry is doing well here in SE Ohio.
The comments I’ve heard him mention about pro-life
issues strike me as unusual, given his brilliance
on the conservative side, but I guess his statement
about not being religious covers it all. He’s a
scientist, and probably an athiest, or at most agnostic.
I think he’s physically suffered greatly; it’s a
chore for him to even breathe and talk. But alas,
it doesn’t appear that he’s a devout pro-life champion.
A couple of background pieces
A Man for All Seasons
Bio from Wiki
(The answers regarding his ideology are detailed here)
Krauthammer is generally considered a conservative.
However, on domestic issues, Krauthammer is a supporter of legalized abortion; an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a “false conflict;” a supporter of embryonic stem cell research using embryos discarded by fertility clinics with restrictions in its applications; and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation.
 Meg Greenfield, editorial page editor for The Washington Post who edited Krauthammer’s columns for 15 years, called his weekly column “independent and hard to peg politically. It’s a very tough column. There’s no ‘trendy’ in it. You never know what is going to happen next.”
On the other hand, 0 IS the moral equivalent of a hangnail.
Proponents Federal funding for research on new fetal stem cell strains really want to promote unrestricted abortion. They’re too dishonest to say so, however.
Proponents of Federal funding for research on new fetal stem cell strains really want to promote unrestricted abortion. Theyre too dishonest to say so, however.
“I thought it was above his paygrade.”
You don’t understand. Saving babies is above his pay grade. Encouraging and enabling their murder is squarely within his core competency.
However, stem cells from other sources look like the best route for the quest for regeneration of human tissues. Scientists at the Royal Adelaide Hospital's Hanson Institute are using discarded baby teeth to grow human tissue. Stem cells taken from such teeth are being used to grow all types of human tissue; including spinal cord tissue.
Think? Why should anti-Christian liberals think when they have their daily sound bite to think for them?
He is Pro Abortion!
It bothers you that Chuck was right?
McCain ran his whole campaign like a concession speech.
Palin pulled him into contention for a while, until McCainiacs undermined her.
Mr. Krauthammer is not religious but he apparently can't stomach the implications of being so.
A corpse is given respectful treatment because it is the earthly remains of a Human Being. It represents all that is left upon this earth of a Life granted by God. There is no reason a ‘thing’, a collection of cells, that has in Mr. Krauthammers view no ‘person hood’ should be accorded treatment any different than an excised tumor. None. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. One would think that a guy in a wheelchair with a name like 'Krauthammer' would be aware of the danger of leaving the authority for conferring 'person hood' to men.
don't over think it
egg + sperm = fully complete human
just wait, and you'll see...
“Proponents Federal funding for research on new fetal stem cell strains really want to promote unrestricted abortion.......”
I think you are correct that it really is about abortion. Abortion is a very lucrative and profitable industry. Embryonic stem cell research, which has shown NO results for medicine, will only open the gates more and more for abortion.
Millions and millions and MILLIONS have been murdered as a result of abortion and their blood will not go un-avenged.
The whole argument of allowing embryonic stem cell research for science and healing is a lie much like evolution and global warming. The only reason dems want stem cell research is to propagate the evil sin of abortion, a hate filled act of the ignorant mind of those who live in darkness and is worse than slavery, which cost over 400,000 American citizens to go to their death.
Abortion is no less a sin then slavery and is the murder of young children now funded by taxpayers money.
Sin always brings death and judgment of God upon those who hate his right ways.
My take on K-Hammer: he’s one of the sharpest knifes in the conservative toolbox, and he’s reliably incisive when it comes to issues with little or no moral component. And he’s not too bad on a lot of those which have a signficant moral component.
But because he has no religious beliefs, on those issues which have a strong moral dimension (such as abortion), like most humanists, his views reflect an ethical foundation built on sand. A belief in a higher power isn’t essential to view things like abortion as an insult to human dignity (pro-lifers don’t come any stronger than the atheist Nat Henthof), but it is a lot tougher to come to that position absent the ethical grounding of theistic belief system.
But I do respect him more than just about any humanist going because he’s so intellectually honest - I think that’s what really honks him off about Obama. In addition, unlike most humanists, he has a real respect for religiously-based viewpoints he disagrees with, provided they’re expressed in an intelligent and non-doctrinaire fashion. Try to dig up some of his other impressions of his work on Bush’s ethics commission - he’s uniformly fair and respectful of all reasonable views, and (again) very complementry of Bush’s wisdom in these matters.
“I am not religious. I do not believe that personhood is conferred upon conception. But I also do not believe that a human embryo is the moral equivalent of a hangnail and deserves no more respect than an appendix.”
Damn, this statement, from a man I respect, really is troubling. If personhood or whatever he calls being a human being does not begin at conception he needs to offer an opinion on when it does begin. This is the quandary all pro abortionists are required to answer if they are going to defend abortion. And, if life does not begin at conception then the embryo does not deserve any more respect than a hangnail or an appendix. After all, if it is not a person, it is just a glob of tissue, much like an appendix and deserves no rights.
Growing Marijuana in a hydroponic garden under lights is the best way to do it. You can fully customize the plants, and they are far more potent.
Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research
Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It
CNS News | March 13, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey
Posted on 03/13/2009 8:12:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines
[snip] On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any “research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death.” [end]
Not really, Charles. History tells us that doctors can be great fascist lapdogs.
“Then why is no private money interested in funding and patenting the research?”
From what I’ve read, the whole issue is that there would be no way to reliably ‘patent’ anything. Consequently, it’s not worth the investment of time & money for a private corporation to do this research.
“I suggested the bright line prohibiting the deliberate creation of human embryos solely for the instrumental purpose of research — a clear violation of the categorical imperative not to make a human life (even if only a potential human life) a means rather than an end.”
This is so disgusting .... I have no words. We have a deranged Communist beast in the WH.
Abortion as a cruel human practice exponentially dwarfs slavery in it’s evil...particularly when compared to the North American trade.
The numbers involved alone are proof enough.
Not to mention economics and religious and social mores generally forbid murdering one’s slave at least in the US.
Abortion has murdered more human beings worldwide than anything in history including war....and all in just a few decades.
I doubt that's true, since companies are investing time and money into adult stem cell research.
What I read was that fetal stem cell lines are harder to control in the lab and go cancerous more often than the adult stem cells. Which should be reason enough to avoid them altogether.
Krathhammer used to write for the New Republic just like Barnes and Kondracker and O’Rourke.
many folks here don’t know that and think his hawkish views on Israel make him conservative
far from it.
he’s also somewhat pro-gun control
it amazes me how little some freepers keep up...folks who should know better
I think the old term for this is “hydroponic gardening”.
He demonstrates perfectly why Libertarian ≠ Conservative.
No, more like the moral equivalent of an ingrown toenail.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Your point’s well taken.
My only quibble - I don’t think one can easily pigeonhole Krauthammer in either the conservative or libertarian camp (he’s certainly not out there with the hard-core Randians).
But if you wanted to argue he’s more libertarian than conservative, I’d have a hard time refuting you.
Still like the guy, though.
LOL-That’s a good one.
Do the baby teeth have to be newly “lost”....or preserved in some way.....just wondering....I have some of my 38 year old son’s baby teeth....wondering if they might come in handy sometime for him???
I never wondered where Charles Krauthamer was coming from nor frome whence came Kristol and Barnes. Are you somehow naming Charles Chuckie?
Is that meant to demean? And if so say something about Barnes and Kristol because I’m starting to get the impression there is a certain secret handshake I’ve not been shown.
You are reading too much into my comments. I just find Charles to be a hypocrite after trashing McCain in all of the debates, thus undermining VERY weak support. And now, somehow this genius is just now seeing Obama as the threat he is. Pathetic. Krauthammer is a bona fide genius. His resume is breathtaking. He is a true intellectual and the .0005% of us GOP members who are attracted to the intellectual GOP (stop laughing) find him compelling. We were disappointed by his lack of enthusiasm for McCain when any simple moron could see that Obama would be a spectacular disaster. It just burns me. Reminds me of the intellectuals in Germany that thought Hitler would be a breath of fresh air for the Deutsche Volk. Some breath! AGGGUHHH!
There is other scientific talk about growing new teeth that have been removed. I think this too is using the baby teeth stem cells. Just think, no more expensive crowns and root canals. Just pull it out and grow a new one.
Krauthypocrite is a tool.