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Homeland Security plans for violence on U.S. border
star-telegram.com ^ | Mar. 13, 2009 | EILEEN SULLIVAN and SUZANNE GAMBOA

Posted on 03/14/2009 8:58:38 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON — Tighter gun control and stronger law enforcement in Southwestern states were recommended Thursday by lawmakers concerned about drug violence in Mexico possibly spilling across the border.

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"The United States and Mexico border violence can only be solved if we look at all parts of the equation," Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., said Thursday during a House subcommittee considering changes to U.S. gun laws. "Let’s examine our gun laws, let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption, let’s ask there to be more resources to root out drug-money laundering," he said...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Texas
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1 posted on 03/14/2009 8:58:38 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What if we gave a war and EVERYBODY came?


2 posted on 03/14/2009 9:01:50 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: neverdem
Never waste a good crisis, eh? Here comes gun control, in TX, of all places.
3 posted on 03/14/2009 9:06:39 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Kenyan Keynesian will bankrupt this nation.)
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To: neverdem
Tighter gun control and stronger law enforcement in Southwestern states were recommended .............

Tighter gun control? Like make more laws against gun smuggling?

4 posted on 03/14/2009 9:16:00 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: neverdem

> “Let’s examine our gun laws, let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption, let’s ask there to be more resources to root out drug-money laundering,”

Oh jeez, why don’t we add a conference on ‘world peace’ into that “equation”, shall we?


5 posted on 03/14/2009 9:16:35 PM PDT by max americana
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To: neverdem
let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption

Uh... not working...

6 posted on 03/14/2009 9:23:58 PM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: neverdem
Tighter gun control and stronger law enforcement...

If they did the second - enforced the existing firearms laws - they wouldn't even be considering the first. In fact, they probably need more firearms in that neck-of-the-woods to help people protect themselves.

If you think the police will protect you, you are sadly mistaken. Police are there to protect society from criminals. By definition, they have to commit a crime first before the police come after them. That crime may very well be against you or your family. Your safety, and the safety of those you care about, is ultimately your own responsibility.

7 posted on 03/14/2009 9:25:44 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: coloradan

Yeah...and look; some MassHole rep to boot suggesting this.
His own state has been under almost 40 years of the most draconian gun-control laws in the nation...now, he wants to spread his crap to Texas???
Texas needs to tell him to stick it up his MassHole....
I cannot stomach those people up there.....


8 posted on 03/14/2009 9:26:18 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: neverdem

Brilliant. As the situation gets more dangerous, lets take away the ability of our citizens to defend themselves. With that kind of reasoning, the author is undoubtably a dem.


9 posted on 03/14/2009 9:28:37 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: neverdem
Don't you just love it? A Massachusetts's congress critter laying out the plans for "peace in our time" to the states of the southwest.
10 posted on 03/14/2009 9:29:16 PM PDT by UbonGhostrider ( Fire for effect.)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Never waste a good crisis, eh? Here comes gun control, in TX, of all places.

Another opportunist. Blame Americans, use another situation to oppress the citizenry.

If I had my way, people in those border states would be armed to the teeth. They are on the front lines of a war, and all this sniveling politician can think up is a way to make our citizenry more vulnerable. Criminals crossing the borders and raiding border towns. Enough of these people already.

11 posted on 03/14/2009 9:30:18 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: neverdem

bookmark


12 posted on 03/14/2009 9:41:41 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: John123

let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption

Uh... not working...
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It sure isn’t, and the proof of that is the election of a marxist anti-semitic racist who doesnt want to show his birth certificate to anyone. My, how our standards have fallen over the years.


13 posted on 03/14/2009 9:45:43 PM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

I would not bet on it!

This is still Texas.

Not some place in Kenya.

We do not need help dealing with the mess in Mexico.

If it spills over, it will be dealt with.


14 posted on 03/14/2009 9:51:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: neverdem
"The United States and Mexico border violence can only be solved if we look at all parts of the equation," Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., said Thursday during a House subcommittee considering changes to U.S. gun laws. "Let’s examine our gun laws, let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption, let’s ask there to be more resources to root out drug-money laundering," he said.

What does some dip/stick in Mass. know about the border, butt out dummie.

15 posted on 03/14/2009 9:56:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Canedawg; John123

let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption

Uh... not working...
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It sure isn’t, and the proof of that is the election of a marxist anti-semitic racist who doesnt want to show his birth certificate to anyone. My, how our standards have fallen over the years.

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Hey Canedawg, you forgot “...coke sniffin’, grass tokin’...” in your description of BHO! :^)


16 posted on 03/14/2009 10:23:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: He Rides A White Horse

“If I had my way, people in those border states would be armed to the teeth.”

Take it from us folks here in the border states...we ARE armed to the teeth!


17 posted on 03/14/2009 10:24:50 PM PDT by Mister Muggles
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To: Mister Muggles

Not me. Just one two 12 gauges, a 30.06, a .45, a .38, and three or four .22s. Barely enough to notice.


18 posted on 03/14/2009 10:26:46 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: neverdem

What a f’cking farce regarding the idea of gun control helping the situation in Mexico.

Why in the hell would the Mexican drug cartels have any use for a semiautomatic rifle bought and smuggled from the US when they can probably get all the full autos they want, CHEAPER, from elsewhere.

This is just another lame ass excuse to infringe on our rights.


19 posted on 03/14/2009 10:31:34 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: neverdem
Hey, what about a well constructed effective border fence? With a trillion dollars for shovel ready projects, just what are they shoveling in Congress?

20 posted on 03/14/2009 10:51:59 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: Texas Fossil

Prayers for the people of Texas.


21 posted on 03/14/2009 11:49:52 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: coloradan
What if we gave a war and EVERYBODY came?

It could get right sportin', I would imagine. Hope my AR kit arrives by then, although if it doesn't I'll hardly be unarmed. In fact my 7.62x51 rifle might be more appropriate. The sight lines are long in these parts, if you get up on one of the many 200' hills.

22 posted on 03/14/2009 11:50:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Never waste a good crisis, eh? Here comes gun control, in TX, of all places.

Good Luck with that.

Now you know why they prohibited the growing of Hemp oh those many years ago. Make's good ropes. But imported ones will do, as will polypropylene. Whatever, but.

Git A Rope!

lots of ropes actually

23 posted on 03/14/2009 11:53:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Mister Muggles
Take it from us folks here in the border states...we ARE armed to the teeth!

Except California perhaps, but even there, they are armed, just not a well armed as they'd like to be.

24 posted on 03/14/2009 11:54:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: neverdem
"Tighter gun control and stronger law enforcement in Southwestern states were recommended."

The typical response by the Ayers and Angela Davis crowd.

Restrict freedoms in the US and the world will be a better place.

25 posted on 03/15/2009 12:30:57 AM PDT by NoLibZone (To save our nation a Strongly Worded e-mail may be in order.)
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To: neverdem

Invade Mexico and restore order. Because invading my civil rights *instead* is not an option. They are responsible for the problem, so they should suffer the consequenses, not me.


26 posted on 03/15/2009 1:03:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: El Gato

27 posted on 03/15/2009 1:11:48 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: lgjhn23
Yeah...and look; some MassHole rep to boot suggesting this.

Massachusetts didn't even want Texas in the Union. John Quincy Adams fought a scorched-earth political war to keep Texas out, and personally delayed Texas's admission to the Union for 10 years.

Of course, when Texas left the Union again 12 years later, that wasn't good enough for Massachusetts, either.

The deal was, they didn't want Texas in the Union as a peer.

Now they want to use an "emergency" to push their substitute for thought off on Texas again. Declare "insurrection" or "invasion", impose martial law -- and burn Texas to the ground, for Massachusetts's good.

28 posted on 03/15/2009 4:48:09 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: El Gato
The sight lines are long in these parts, if you get up on one of the many 200' hills.

Talk to your FFL and see if he can get you one of Ronnie Barrett's Texas-made popguns. He's right down the road from us in Houston.

29 posted on 03/15/2009 4:50:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: neverdem

somebody give this libtard a fork and point him to a light socket...


30 posted on 03/15/2009 5:24:54 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: El Gato
lots of ropes actually

in reality, only one rope will do, as it needs to be cut way down into short lengths anyhows...

31 posted on 03/15/2009 5:30:17 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

LMAO!!!!! Now that’s funny! ;)


32 posted on 03/15/2009 5:31:20 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: neverdem

No, we DON”T need to examine our gun laws....unless it is to REPEAL some! Dummy!


33 posted on 03/15/2009 5:40:18 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Texas Fossil

Broadcast the new acronym:

O ne

B ig

A ss

M istake

A merica!


34 posted on 03/15/2009 5:42:41 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: neverdem

Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., said Thursday during a House subcommittee considering changes to U.S. gun laws. “Let’s examine our gun laws, let’s cut down on U.S. drug consumption,


Sounds like Tierney needs to have a conversation with Ron Paul.


35 posted on 03/15/2009 5:52:50 AM PDT by deport
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To: magooey

The whole lot of them are shovel ready. The only thing congress should vote on is who digs first and who hops in first.


36 posted on 03/15/2009 6:22:07 AM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: neverdem

Scary stuff with Napolitano running the show. She couldn’t even get a handle on the violence in her own state. Phoenix is now the number 2 city for kidnappings. Could zero have picked a more incompetent person to run Homeland Security?


37 posted on 03/15/2009 6:28:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: neverdem
Homeland Security plans for violence on U.S. border

With Janet in Charge?
The EX-Governor of Arizona who couldn't and wouldn't control it?

38 posted on 03/15/2009 6:29:33 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: neverdem
What an asshat. What does someone from Massachusetts know what's going on 1800+ miles away (and that's the closest, direct line) at the Texas / Mexican border.

And rep Tierney, in case you forgot you were elected to represent the people who live in your peehole of a district not in Texas or ANYWHERE else in the USA.

39 posted on 03/15/2009 6:34:15 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Declare "insurrection" or "invasion", impose martial law -- and burn Texas to the ground, for Massachusetts's good.

The last attempt to subject Texas was short lived and did not work out that well.

And the last Civil War was fought over Northern financial interest vs Southern agricultural interests. Not about slavery (which was a despicable thing).

And by the way, my ancestors were literally burned out of Alabama during Reconstruction. That is how we came to live in Texas.

40 posted on 03/15/2009 7:11:05 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Mister Muggles
Take it from us folks here in the border states...we ARE armed to the teeth!

It's easy for this politician to sit far removed, who probably has his own security detachment payed for by you and me, to say such stupid things.

With all of the moronic stimulus packages that are completely worthless, I'll propose one.

We'll call it the Defense of America Act. Tax breaks for people who purchase firearms. No limit for a household.

No harassment from the government. Fully automatic weapons.

41 posted on 03/15/2009 10:02:14 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: coloradan

“What if we gave a war and EVERYBODY came?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The likelihood of that seems to be increasing daily.


42 posted on 03/15/2009 11:31:43 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: magooey

“just what are they shoveling in Congress?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Grass and grain...which has first been processed through the four stomach chambers of a male ruminant of the bovine type.


43 posted on 03/15/2009 11:40:28 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: jersey117
Could zero have picked a more incompetent person to run Homeland Security?

It's more than incompetence. Napolitano's ideology is a bigger problem.

44 posted on 03/15/2009 12:00:38 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: neverdem; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


45 posted on 03/15/2009 2:24:31 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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