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Border fences make critics fear for the area's wildlife
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Brady McCombs

Posted on 03/15/2009 7:31:35 AM PDT by SandRat

It could take years to fully comprehend the environmental toll of border fencing, but critics say it is bound to create problems for the land and wildlife.

The attempts by environmentalists and public-land managers to address their concerns were brushed aside early on by former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who invoked a provision of the 2005 Real ID Act that allowed a waiver of environmental and other federal regulations for border projects.

And it wasn't long after that problems began cropping up.

In testimony last year, Tohono O'odham Chairman Ned Norris Jr. told a House subcommittee that near Douglas and Naco, construction workers dug up fragments of human remains in Tohono O'odham ancestral lands.

He also noted that during the construction, some birds died when they got stuck in 12-inch-diameter steel pipes.

The Gila woodpeckers were confused by the pipes, which looked enough like a saguaro cactus that the birds flew into the open ends and became trapped, said Jeffrey Brooks, who worked as an archaeological and ecological construction monitor for a private company in the spring of 2008. The exact number that died is unknown, but it was probably as high 100, he said.

Now anecdotal evidence is showing that the fences are harming wildlife, said Matt Clark, Southwest representative of Defenders of Wildlife, a group that works to protect endangered species.

"They are encountering the wall, hesitant at the wall, being deflected away from the wall, in some cases hitting the wall or getting stuck in the bollards," Clark said. "Indications are that it is having the sorts of impact that we anticipated."

Those concerns include fragmentation of habitat; increase of wildlife disturbance by motorized vehicles that now have more access; and severing of migration and dispersal corridors for animals such as the jaguar, ocelot, black bear, cougar and coatimundi, all species that require large amounts of habitat, Clark said.

And there are other problems attributed to the fencing, including flooding at Nogales and Lukeville during the 2008 monsoon that was caused, or at least compounded, by border fences.

Border Patrol officials say the fencing is beneficial to the environment and wildlife because it is cutting down on the trash left behind by illegal immigrants.

Clark and others argue that a real assessment of the border fence's adverse impact will have to await the completion of a formal study by a neutral agency. So far, however, nothing like that has been started.

"We have models and predictions of what some of the impacts might be, but we don't have very much in the way of hard data," Clark said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; critics; envirowhacos; fence; immigration; mexico; wildlife

1 posted on 03/15/2009 7:31:36 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; ...

Border fences make critics fear for the area’s wildlife — Not this again!!!!


2 posted on 03/15/2009 7:32:42 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat
The Gila woodpeckers were confused by the pipes, which looked enough like a saguaro cactus that the birds flew into the open ends and became trapped,

That is one dumb peckerwood.

3 posted on 03/15/2009 7:35:20 AM PDT by mylife ( The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SandRat
Damn the wildlife. Human life is what concerns us. Human life, sovereignty and preservation of our way of life.
4 posted on 03/15/2009 7:36:53 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: SandRat
Anecdotal bullcrap. The "Defenders of Wildlife" would rather see the desert plantlife destroyed by foot and offroad traffic, the surface covered with garbage, human feces and trash. Like all leftwing lobbies, DoW is a false front "green" group that is far more red then green.
5 posted on 03/15/2009 7:37:32 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SandRat
Border Patrol officials say the fencing is beneficial to the environment and wildlife because it is cutting down on the trash left behind by illegal immigrants.

And the trash that is the illegals themselves.

6 posted on 03/15/2009 7:39:33 AM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: SandRat
If we should not have a border wall because birds are confused and fly into it then we should not have glass windows either. I have birds fly into my plate glass windows all the time. Some times it kills them, sometimes they stagger around and then fly off. These enviro nuts are too much for me to understand.
7 posted on 03/15/2009 7:42:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SandRat

No surprise here. Wildlife is more important than the constitution.


8 posted on 03/15/2009 7:42:43 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: mylife; jazusamo; girlangler
Yes, I agree it does make them sound dumb, but it's instinctual. The holes in these pipes (often PVC) are sometimes the perfect size for these flickers, which are cavity nesters. They slide into them, thinking they'll find a chamber and can slide out, and then they get stuck.

In other places of the desert, such as southern Nevada, other cavity-nesters (such as the ash-throated flycatcher) often get caught in the PVC air tubes on mining claims.

What this article DOESN'T say is that there is an easy solution for this: cap the tubes. In Nevada, these tubes are getting capped (if not in use) or modified to prevent birds and other animals from getting stuck in them. They can easily do this at the border wall too, but the enviros won't tell you this.

This article also DOESN'T mention that animal corridors can be created at the wall to allow for animal movement or migration (such as pronghorn).

All said and done, this article is total left-wing environmentalist propaganda that seems to support illegal immigration.

But that doesn't surprise me. These people are always dishonest and never tell the whole truth.

9 posted on 03/15/2009 7:46:02 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SandRat

Not one mention of wildlife adapting to their environment or, in this case, changes to their environment. The silence that speaks volumes.


10 posted on 03/15/2009 7:47:22 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: SandRat

Priorities. Do we focus upon Woodpeckers, or do we focus upon Border Security?

Perhaps we could train the Woodpeckers as “Assault Woodpeckers”, but then anything “Assault” must be banned according to Democrats, but then if the Woodpeckers are banned there won’t be any to hinder construction of the Border fence. It’s a win-win.

That’s logic.


11 posted on 03/15/2009 7:48:41 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Not according to the Enviro-MENTAL Wac-KOOKs
12 posted on 03/15/2009 7:49:00 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Watermelons - Green on the outside but Red on the inside.
13 posted on 03/15/2009 7:50:45 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Boy you got that right. I hike often down here in Southern Arizona and you should see the garbage these people leave not to mention human waste. Talk about endangering the wildlife!

Something needs to be done period.


14 posted on 03/15/2009 7:51:21 AM PDT by waxer1 ( Live Free or Die; Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death)
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To: SandRat

But the crap the illegals leave behind is good for the wildlife I suppose.

15 posted on 03/15/2009 7:54:56 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: rockinqsranch

That’s logic.
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Environmental Nazis are devoid of all logic and common sense.


16 posted on 03/15/2009 8:00:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: SandRat

Grrrrrrrrrrrr!


17 posted on 03/15/2009 8:28:18 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: SandRat

It boils down to the fact that it’s either us or the wild life. Wild life will adjust, just as they have done when we build cities. We should not have to tell families that they have to adjust and learn to live with the border crossings.


18 posted on 03/15/2009 8:31:59 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: SandRat
It could take years to fully comprehend the environmental toll of border fencing, but critics say it is bound to create problems for the land and wildlife.

I guess that hundreds of thousands of people coming across the desert leaving diapers, water bottles, baggies, paper and other trash is good for the environment. Maybe we could solve the problem by locating "green" solar powered trash receptacles next to signs that say "It's your desert now, keep it clean!"


19 posted on 03/15/2009 8:36:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: SandRat

Life always fins a way to adapt, well except humans I guess.


20 posted on 03/15/2009 9:04:53 AM PDT by BillT (New Executive Order to abolish the WS Constitution to be signed to save the US Constitution)
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To: SandRat

The “land and environment” recovered from the building of the Great Wall of China, and, with seriously much less problem, so will the American southwest recover from border walls and fences.


21 posted on 03/15/2009 9:19:53 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SandRat
“problems for the land and wildlife.”

The wildlife is what we are trying to keep out.

22 posted on 03/15/2009 9:37:30 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: SandRat

The biggest threat to the environment is from the illegal aliens themselves....if these EnviroFascists would address this issue....but they won’t because many of the EnviroFascists themselves are pro-illegal/anti-American


23 posted on 03/15/2009 10:20:25 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

They are watermelons - Green on the outside and Red on the inside.


24 posted on 03/15/2009 10:31:55 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Flycatcher
These people are always dishonest and never tell the whole truth.

Exactly! In the vast majority of pieces by enviros, animal rights activists and enemedia that support them they don't tell the whole story, they cherry pick and magnify (lie) about their side of the story.

Thanks for your info and the ping, good post.

25 posted on 03/15/2009 10:56:49 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The "Defenders of Wildlife" would rather see the desert plantlife destroyed by foot and offroad traffic, the surface covered with garbage, human feces and trash. Like all leftwing lobbies, DoW is a false front "green" group that is far more red then green.

BINGO!

26 posted on 03/15/2009 12:37:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Not one mention of wildlife adapting to their environment or, in this case, changes to their environment.”

Maybe the critters are taking Spanish classes at night. :)


27 posted on 03/15/2009 1:11:00 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: SandRat; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


28 posted on 03/15/2009 2:25:13 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Lion Den Dan

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29 posted on 03/15/2009 6:45:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SandRat
I'm sure it will create some issues for wildlife, however you cannot tell me that zillions of people crossing the border, leaving trash etc doesn't also create issues for wildlife. I happen to think our wildlife is a national treasure, however the sovereignty of our nation is of greater importance.
30 posted on 03/15/2009 7:29:27 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: SandRat
Well that's it...take the fence down. Can't harm the wildlife.

/s

31 posted on 03/15/2009 7:46:05 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: PLMerite
“Not one mention of wildlife adapting to their environment or, in this case, changes to their environment.”

Of course this was not mentioned it would ruin their cause. Most wildlife can and do adapt to their environment.

32 posted on 03/15/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: DogBarkTree

Maybe some brave media outlet will start showing pictures like the one that you posted. I think that for many it would be an eye opener.


33 posted on 03/15/2009 7:54:13 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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