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HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%
The Washington Post ^ | 15 March 2009 | By Jose Antonio Vargas and Darryl Fears

Posted on 03/15/2009 8:08:09 AM PDT by wgflyer

Edited on 03/15/2009 8:41:26 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: NoGrayZone
Men who have sex with men in secret, and go home to their wives and girlfriends. Live a heterosexual life for all appearance sake.
51 posted on 03/15/2009 9:42:19 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: NoGrayZone
The only ones in control of it are those who have gay sex.

Actually, you need to add drug use to that, and then you are exactly right.

Whenever people start talking about not covering obese people because that is a "lifestyle" disease; i.e., people choose to behave in a way that makes them obese, I get angry. It is politically incorrect to be fat, but gay is the highest rung of the P.C. ladder so these people get a pass on their behavior.

Well, are these people also willing to stop providing health care to AIDs patients, 'cause those "drug cocktails" that they have to take to keep them alive are very expensive and they "choose" to participate in activities (gay sex or drug use) that open them up to this disease.

52 posted on 03/15/2009 10:02:02 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: gidget7

Amen sister!


53 posted on 03/15/2009 10:06:53 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: gidget7
Ugh, that is so disgusting, but pretty rampant. Long story, made short.... I was on Craigs list looking for an apartment a few years ago. I decided to check out the entire site. I noticed they had personals and saw male for male, or whatever they call it.

I was curious as to how gay men posted. Do they say “I'm a girl looking for a guy”, etc. I decided to look. What an education I received. There is so much I can post about what I learned (really really gross stuff).

But one of the things that got my blood boiling was how many men, who were either married or had girlfriends, who were looking for gay sex!!!

It was unbelievable!!! All I could think about was those poor women, especially the married ones.

I must say, that education I received changed me, for the better.

54 posted on 03/15/2009 10:15:29 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: SoKatt

It’s called keeping on the down low


55 posted on 03/15/2009 10:17:58 AM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: wgflyer

If they can jack up the price of the cigars I smoke once in a while with the whole second-hand smoke BS and the S-CHIP health care scam—(prices have just gone up 50 cents per cigar in the past week or so) They can tack on a $20 cover charge on gay bars and $50 or $100 daily charge on those bathhouse places to pay for AIDS research, right?

I mean they demonize smokers—and I can at least understand someone sticking a cigarette in their mouth....


56 posted on 03/15/2009 10:32:12 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: chae

What does that mean??


57 posted on 03/15/2009 10:50:49 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: gidget7
Get a grip, folks.

This report comes from an incompetently run local Washington DC government agency.

They are looking to increase their budget.

Pure and simple, they are looking to increase their budget!

This same group claimed that 5% (!!) of DC residents had HIV/AIDS in November 2007.

Click on the 2007 link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/25/AR2007112501677_pf.html

Now, in 2009, they claim 3% of DC residents have HIV/AIDS.

Apparently the The Washington Post, which wrote both stories, can't do math.

Dropping 5% to 3% is a 40% DECREASE in the number of HIV/AIDS residents, in two years!

How did they get the 5% infection rate in 2007?

Who knows, it's a “projection” from unknown sources.

How did they get the 3% infection rate in 2009?

This way:

They surveyed 750 high risk residents in six of Washington DC’s most high risk neighborhoods.

This is not science.

This is political dog poop from people who want a bigger slice of Obama’s budget.

58 posted on 03/15/2009 11:05:13 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: babygene

>>A woman can get aids through herto sex with an infected man (but not the other way around), or a needle. But not from homo sex with another woman.

Sort of. Ordinary unprotected sex is highly unlikely to infect a healthy woman (take 500-1000 instances for her to likely be infected, according to studies). The reality in this study is that these women CLAIM to have been infected heterosexually. Most probably, they were infected by sharing needles, or by receiving unprotected anal sex with men who share needles.

>>A man gets it through homo sex or a needle. Not through hetro sec with a women.

Unless the man has genital sores, like is common in Africa.


59 posted on 03/15/2009 11:12:30 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics=Obamageddon)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I would suspect bisexuals, who are extremely promiscuous, carry the virus back and forth among the usual identified groups.


That is probably overstated. It is almost impossible (1 in 500 odds) to infect a healthy woman with unprotected vaginal sex. And even if you did, she has no way to transmit it aside from needle sharing.

“Back and forth” applies only where genital sores are widespread, like in Africa.

The “I got it from my boyfriend” tale may sometimes be true, but 99% odds that it was because she either received unprotected anal sex or shared needles with her boyfriend.


60 posted on 03/15/2009 11:22:09 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics=Obamageddon)
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To: SC DOC

It is amazing how the worst of everything, i.e. public education, black-on-black crime, aids, etc. flows forth from the same city that is the seat of power for those who would instruct, indeed command, us on everything. More amazing is how few in the broad electorate seem to get it.


61 posted on 03/15/2009 12:10:55 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: NoGrayZone

Keeping it on the down low is when a guy, usually a black man, will be married or have a steady girlfriend. But he goes out and has sex with other men, but still insists that he isn’t gay or bisexual.
I read somewhere that in the urban community, being gay is still looked down upon as wrong (Prop 8 in california passed because of the high african american turnout), and therefore it is very hard to get an accurate statistic because the “gangsta” type guys won’t admit to gay sex.


62 posted on 03/15/2009 12:46:05 PM PDT by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: wgflyer

“Heterosexual sex was the principal mode of transmission for blacks with the disease”

Back when AIDS was known as the “gay plague,” people noticed that a lot of Haitians had it. This was because homosexuals were taking sex vacations in Haiti, but that wasn’t widely known then. It just looked like there were high concentrations of the disease in Haiti and among homosexual men.

A joke was told...”The toughest thing about getting AIDS is convincing your parents that you’re Haitian.”

Yeah, sure these black men are getting it from heterosexual activity. Just ask them. They’ll tell you.


63 posted on 03/15/2009 12:46:07 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: atomicweeder

My guess is they’re not being politically correct, but are being specific. Sexuality isn’t as black and white as gay/straight - it’s a continuum. There are men who, on the continuum, are mostly straight, but have (and act on) their coexistent attraction to other men.

So when these men have sex, it would be inaccurate to call it “homosexual contact”, because they’re not homosexual men. It is more accurate to call it “men having sex with men”.

If it were only about gay men, there would be no explanation for why so many non-drug using, married women get HIV.

I think it makes a lot of men more psychologically comfortable to think that sexuality is dichotomous, but it’s just not reality. It’s like people saying that Obama is black, and disregarding that he is half white.


64 posted on 03/15/2009 1:21:02 PM PDT by canaan
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To: canaan

Where I come from, if you b***f*** man, you’re a homo.


65 posted on 03/15/2009 3:18:34 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: wgflyer

Black men have sex with other black men (live on the “down low”) at alarming rates, then infect black women. I don’t understand how black men are then not the biggest percentage of people and not black women. hm.


66 posted on 03/15/2009 4:02:11 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: wgflyer

I’ll bet in the Dupont Circle area it is 50%+.


67 posted on 03/15/2009 4:12:21 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: wgflyer

Maybe the African bailout is needed in DC since they turn everyplace they live into an african pit.


68 posted on 03/15/2009 5:11:59 PM PDT by edcoil (Are we there yet?)
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To: SoKatt

That is called a McGreevy


69 posted on 03/15/2009 9:59:26 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: Gaffer
"He’ll find a way to blame you and me for some poor black person sticking a dirty needle in their arm and getting aids...It WILL happen."

Even if he can't find a way to blame us for it, he'll find a way into our pockets to pay for "researching" it (which is dim speak for showing that you care even if it has absolutely no chance of doing a damn bit of good).

70 posted on 03/16/2009 5:59:17 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: wgflyer
Unfortunately when it comes to blacks ... a life of crime and being in prison is more the norm. Most don't even know who their fathers are - 70%. I mention blacks because there are gender identity issues - no dad present when growing up and also when they are in prison they often go along with homosexuality till they get out. They may not remain homosexual upon release but ofter pick up the disease while in prison and pass it along to their girlfriends. I read it is an unspoken occurrence that in prison many men go along with gay sex because that's all that is available. It's embarassing so it is not made an issue.

There have been numerous articles written on this.

71 posted on 03/16/2009 7:46:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Lucky Dog
Perversion has become an epidemic.

As we run God out of our lives more perversion will occur.

72 posted on 03/16/2009 7:48:16 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: wgflyer

Interesting how FOX news has more believeable information:

HIV-AIDS Rate in D.C. ‘Higher Than West Africa’
Monday, March 16, 2009
AP

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WASHINGTON — At least 3 percent of residents in the nation’s capital are living with HIV or AIDS and every mode of transmission is on the rise, according to a report to be released Monday by D.C. health officials.

The findings in the 2008 epidemiology report by the D.C. HIV/AIDS Administration point to a severe epidemic that’s impacting every race and sex across the population and neighborhoods.

“Our rates are higher than West Africa,” said Shannon Hader, the administration’s director, who used to spearhead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s work in Zimbabwe. “They’re on par with Uganda and some parts of Kenya.”

The report, obtained by The Washington Post, updates a landmark 2007 study that discovered the epidemic had moved from affecting a mostly gay population to a general one, and that it disproportionately affected blacks.

The study found that the number of HIV and AIDS cases jumped 22 percent from the 12,428 reported in 2006. Almost 1 in 10 residents between 40 and 49 are living with the virus, and black men had the highest infection rate at almost 7 percent, the report said. It added that 3 percent of black women in D.C. have HIV.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509316,00.html


73 posted on 03/16/2009 7:51:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: gidget7
“Men who have sex with men in secret, and go home to their wives and girlfriends. Live a heterosexual life for all appearance sake.”

Exactly!

There is still a stigma attached to it.

Look at McGreevy - he married and even had a daughter for the sake of appearances and his wife KNEW he was gay when she married him. It was a marriage of convenience for BOTH. McGreevy ONLY came forwar to distract and avoid going to prison.

74 posted on 03/16/2009 7:56:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: babygene
A woman can get aids through herto sex with an infected man

true.

(but not the other way around)

Nonsense. It's several times less likely for a woman to infect a man, but it happens. The same could be said for gay men, namely that one can only get infected if one TAKES it up the youknowwhat. (Infection rates for insertive penile-vaginal intercourse and insertive penile-anal intercourse are more or less the same.) But that is also bogus.

The real problem is viral load. If e.g. a woman has a fresh infection with high viral load, it doesn't matter that vaginal intercourse is ten times less risky if the risk increases thousandfold due to her high viral load.

But not from homo sex with another woman.

True. Which is the reason for the gay marriage "movement". When male homosexuals were dying, lesbians - who never had much of an AIDS problem - took over the political agenda and all they wanted to do is nest.

A man gets it through homo sex or a needle. Not through hetro sec with a women.

ROFL. Tell that to those unsuspecting men who got it that way. Sure, there are probably more women for which the same is true, but that doesn't make your generalization any less wrong.

Babies get it from their mother

With precautions (i.e. antiretroviral therapy, hospital birth, no breastfeeding) it's 99% likely that babies won't get it from their mothers.
75 posted on 03/17/2009 3:57:37 AM PDT by wolf78 (Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender)
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To: wgflyer

“You have this problem affecting us, and you tell people how serious it is and it literally goes in one ear and out the other.”

Going in and out of their “ears” is not the main anatomical problem...it’s going in and out of other places that is. AIDS has got to be the most politically correct and medically avoidable disease on the planet. It’s not about “race” it’s about “behavior.”

...who knows...maybe a good dose of “global warming” is just the thing we need to fix this.


76 posted on 03/17/2009 4:23:11 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: nmh

Thanks for that link. You’re right...much more fact oriented, less PC spin.


77 posted on 03/18/2009 6:55:18 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: edcoil

“...since they turn everyplace they live into an african pit.”

Yes, but only when they accept liberalism as their God and savior, and that regardless of the specific gene pool from whence the liberal springs. Just look at San Francisco, for example.


78 posted on 03/18/2009 6:59:35 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

You’re exactly correct. In fact, though, they are more likely to jack up the taxes on your cigars to pay the water bill in the bath houses. Barney Frank has power up there in filth land.


79 posted on 03/18/2009 7:03:25 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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