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Iraqi soccer player shot dead attempting goal
Washington Examiner ^ | 3-16-2009 | AP

Posted on 03/16/2009 10:46:14 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged

Police say an Iraqi soccer player has been shot dead just as he was about to kick what could have been the tying goal in a weekend game south of Baghdad.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dead; goal; iraq; iraqi; obamasfault; shot; tm
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Whatdaya think Obama, should we withdraw our troops?
1 posted on 03/16/2009 10:46:14 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged
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To: theruleshavechanged

Somebody had 8 to 5 on the other team, I’m guessing.


2 posted on 03/16/2009 10:47:00 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

It will be another Killing Fields if Obama gets his way.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 10:47:43 AM PDT by Swede Girl (and)
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To: theruleshavechanged

That’s because scoring is illegal in soccer.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 10:48:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
That’s because scoring is illegal in soccer.

I thought keeping score was illegal, but scoring was okay. Whoda think?

5 posted on 03/16/2009 10:49:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

These people take their soccer seriously.


6 posted on 03/16/2009 10:50:27 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Swede Girl

I pray not.


7 posted on 03/16/2009 10:51:45 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: theruleshavechanged

That makes the game a lot more interesting. We should try it with the NBA.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 10:51:53 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: theruleshavechanged

I am certain that based on what we know about islam that’s it’s OK in the koran somewhere.

That they didn’t also go to the dead mans house, rape and behead his daughters, shows that we are making inroads.


9 posted on 03/16/2009 10:53:09 AM PDT by NoLibZone (To save our nation a Strongly Worded e-mail may be in order.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

I keep telling people soccer is not for wimps. Nobody ever believes me.


10 posted on 03/16/2009 10:54:15 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: theruleshavechanged
Sounds to me like our Publik Skools playing game with no score kept.

This poor guy was probably a Sunni playing against a bunch of Shiites.

11 posted on 03/16/2009 10:54:39 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: theruleshavechanged

So, under Iraqi rules does that constitute a yellow card or a red card?


12 posted on 03/16/2009 10:55:17 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: theruleshavechanged

One of the fans shot him? I thought only the goalie was allowed to shoot an attacker.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 10:55:56 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: AppyPappy
That’s because scoring is illegal in soccer.

Professional soccer matches average over 3 goals per game. That translates to over 21 points per game in American Football terms. That's not so bad, is it?

14 posted on 03/16/2009 11:01:10 AM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: truthandlife

You haven’t seen that punk Alves from Barcelona rolling on the ground have you?


15 posted on 03/16/2009 11:01:26 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Though not technically against the rules — I would suppose that’s a foul.

Penalty kicks? Red card?

SnakeDoc


16 posted on 03/16/2009 11:02:46 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Jack Bauer -- Sarah Palin, 2012)
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To: Wil H

For the record 14 - 7 game is incredibly boring.
More closely aligned would be a 6-3 game - which is a bore fest of Chicagoan proportions.


17 posted on 03/16/2009 11:03:42 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: theruleshavechanged

...democracy is taking hold.........


18 posted on 03/16/2009 11:06:56 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (The stupidity of the American people never ceases to amaze me.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I think it was in Croatia a guy shot the ball as it was rolling towards the net...One hell of a shot. Anyway he got three months jail time but was considered a hero by the fans. The opposing team did not get the goal because the ball deflated before it crossed the line. I read about this in a book which explains the rules about soccer. Maybe someone else read the same thing.


19 posted on 03/16/2009 11:07:10 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: domenad

or maybe they had the under :)


20 posted on 03/16/2009 11:07:45 AM PDT by isom35
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To: b4its2late
I thought keeping score was illegal,

Only in the socialist country of America. The rest of the world takes the game seriously

Why, in socialist America they vote to chose their College Football National Champions ...LOL, and they reward failure in their professional football leagues with first draft picks to "level the playing field" and make things "fair". And they have artificial salary caps so you can't assemble the best talent in one place, wouldn't want to promote excellence, would they?.

Of course they have no demotion or promotion in their leagues as they do in Soccer leagues in the rest of the World, that wouldn't be fair.

But just to ensure everyone's self esteem is maintained and everyone feels good they hold domestic competitions and declare the winners "World Champions"...LOL!

Seems to me it's an American problem, not a soccer one...

21 posted on 03/16/2009 11:11:13 AM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: theruleshavechanged
an Iraqi soccer player has been shot dead just as he was about to kick what could have been the tying goal


22 posted on 03/16/2009 11:11:14 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: domenad
Soccer is definitely a sport where a single goal can make a BIG difference.
23 posted on 03/16/2009 11:11:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: b4its2late

“I thought keeping score was illegal, but scoring was okay. Whoda think? “

only in America. wouldn’t want to hurt their self esteeeem


24 posted on 03/16/2009 11:12:16 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: VRWCmember
So, under Iraqi rules does that constitute a yellow card or a red card?

Boooo, hissss. :)

I guess somebody had to say it, right?

25 posted on 03/16/2009 11:14:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat (Sacred cows make the best hamburger.)
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To: Wil H

I love the idea of a demotion to a lower league. No more listening to some idiot shouting “Who Dey” in his silly striped coat.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 11:15:12 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: Wil H

Yep, and don’t forget the ultimate fairness of giving the ball to one team, and then to the other in American armpitball, so that no offensive player would bew force to to play defense and no defender forced to play offense. No wonder we have been unable to win wars of late!


27 posted on 03/16/2009 11:17:46 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Venturer

“That makes the game a lot more interesting. We should try it with the NBA.”

I was always a fan of making golf a contact sport.


28 posted on 03/16/2009 11:18:21 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“Are you better off than you were a month ago?”)
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To: theruleshavechanged

This makes Woody Hayes look mild-mannered.


29 posted on 03/16/2009 11:22:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: dfwgator

not just columbia anymore


30 posted on 03/16/2009 11:23:24 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Venturer
That makes the game a lot more interesting. We should try it with the NBA.

With the NBA, it could easily be the opposing players doing the shooting rather than some fan.

31 posted on 03/16/2009 11:24:09 AM PDT by Bob
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To: theruleshavechanged
Effective defensive strategy.
32 posted on 03/16/2009 11:25:07 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: theruleshavechanged
an Iraqi soccer player has been shot dead just as he was about to kick what could have been the tying goal

You don't "kick" goals in soccer.

You can kick a field goal or a conversion in rugby and of course you can kick the extra point in American Football.

In soccer you shoot or you score. if you score from a penalty or free kick then you "take" the penalty, you don't "kick" it.

Another weird Americanism that used to be used in soccer reports was to (ironically given this instance) refer to a header as a "head shot". The media has wised up to that and now uses the correct terminology.

33 posted on 03/16/2009 11:26:30 AM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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So, under Iraqi rules does that constitute a yellow card or a red card?

Yellow card, yellow card, definitely!

Let's not get carried away here!

CA....

34 posted on 03/16/2009 11:27:23 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've at last found that silly grin!)
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To: Venturer

We had it football once;

http://neswsports.com/2009/02/02/steve-martin-snl-billy-the-gun-van-goff/


35 posted on 03/16/2009 11:33:18 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Wil H

Well, ya got me on the Bowl Division college football. Oddly enough every other level of football in America, including the smaller college has a playoff system.

As far as giving the last place team the first pick, well it’s better than watching some team like Detroit stink up the place year after year (oh wait, bad example).

Salary caps are very good. It forces the teams to take into consideration what they need versus what’ available. If you don’t have something to encourage the talent to spread around a bit you wind up with America’s major league baseball and the Yankees, or the English Premier league with Manchester, Liverpool, and Arsenal. Everybody knows that the other teams in that league have very little chance at all of winning the championship. In the NFL, Detroit could conceivably go from 0-16 this year to a playoff berth next year (well, let’s not get carried away here.) In England, they wouldn’t even be in the Premier League they would have been relegated, so there would be little hope of them rebuilding anytime soon.

Seriously, how many small fry teams wind up barely making it to the Premier League level and get relegated the next year. I would think fans would want to see the best competition available for their money. Having three or four sharks in the tank with a bunch of small fish isn’t interesting, in fact it is extremely boring. In the NFL, they say anything can happen on any given Sunday. I have never heard that phrase applied to soccer with any meaning.

Put the Superbowl champions up against any other team of 52 players that any other country in the world could throw at them playing American football and they would win. That makes them world champs in my book.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 11:35:11 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: rednesss

It’s interesting to fy over Baghdad and see how many soccer games are going on in empty lots. It kinda reminds me of growing up, except in the Gulf South it was backyard football.


37 posted on 03/16/2009 11:37:41 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: b4its2late

Depends on who you’re scoring with, I guess...


38 posted on 03/16/2009 11:44:19 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Wil H

In what other sport is it encouraged to propel the ball with the cranium (guarding one of God’s greatest creations, the human brain), while denying the use of another marvelous tool, the human hand?


39 posted on 03/16/2009 11:44:41 AM PDT by mikrofon (Jus' Askin')
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To: mikrofon

Why stop there? Why do we play sports with sticks?


40 posted on 03/16/2009 11:51:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

A fly swatter would be too obvious? (Best I could do on short notice.)


41 posted on 03/16/2009 11:54:55 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: Hawk1976
In England, the League and Cup are separate competitions. The League, where you play everyone in your division at home and away, is regarded as the National Championship, the FA Cup the other major domestic trophy, is a sudden death knockout competition where every goes in the hat together, so in your Detroit analogy, they could win the cup even though they were in a lower League division.

700 clubs entered the FA Cup this year!.

Last season, lower division Barnsley dispatched both Liverpool and Chelsea from the competition and the Final was contested by a lower division side (Cardiff) and was won by Portsmouth - not one of "The Big Four".

Even though "The Big Four" boss the Premiership there are other clubs making inroads and there are frequent upsets too. Arsenal lost to newly promoted Hull City at home this season. Middlesbrough beat Man Utd, Stoke City were leading 1-0 at Chelsea with two minutes to go before losing 1-2 so it doesn't always follow the form book.

As for being world champions, you are confusing being (arguably) the best in the world with being "World Champions".

The best team doesn't always win the title, for example, the Patriots last year..

To be "World Champions" you have to win a World Championship, and that needs to be a competition that is open to World Wide Competition. Of course, if there is no foreign competition to compete against anyway then your sport is not a world sport and your World Championship just died on the vine before it ever got started.

There are components to competing in a foreign country than can affect you performance, none of that is part of The NFL competition.

You can call them "World Champions" (of the NATIONAL Football League..LOL) if you like, but it's a hollow claim.

I have competed in World Championships on several continents, it not the same as competing at home.

42 posted on 03/16/2009 12:13:52 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: theruleshavechanged

They were apparently playing by Islamic Rules, which permit beheading your opponent, but only if he is across midfield, in possession of the ball. Beheading is preferred, but the Islamic game had to adapt to today’s realities, so shooting became accepted sometime in the ‘50’s. Of course, when playing infidel teams, killing is permitted at any time and by any means.

ROP sarcasm alert.


43 posted on 03/16/2009 12:15:29 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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‘That makes the game a lot more interesting. We should try it with the NBA.’

Don’t try it when the players are out clubbing as then they are better armed than we are likely to be. Just check the number news stories of athletes who get into gun scrapes.


44 posted on 03/16/2009 12:25:46 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: mikrofon
In what other sport is it encouraged to propel the ball with the cranium (guarding one of God’s greatest creations, the human brain), while denying the use of another marvelous tool, the human hand?

What's your point?

The essence of the game is to move the ball around without using your hands, that would be too easy. It's like arguing for bigger golf clubs or baseball bats to make it easier to hit the ball.

If you are inferring Soccer is unnecessarily dangerous due to the use of the head the statistics don't support you claim.

Heading a soccer ball won't damage your brain, being hit in the head with a soccer ball (which is not the same thing) might do damage if it was travelling fast enough, but there is no instance of a continued occurence of head injures. It's just not an issue.

There are THOUSANDS of soccer matches EVERY day WORLD WIDE and little or no reporting of head injuries caused by the ball.

45 posted on 03/16/2009 12:28:20 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Wil H

I don’t know. Soccer seems to be played pretty much the same everywhere I’ve seen it.

A hostile crowd is hostile pretty much whether they speak the same language or not.

Also, the MLB club that wins the world championship most likely has four different nationalities on it’s roster.

The Patriots may or may not have been the best team. They have been a very good team the last few years, but they have also had a lot of luck regarding injuries, and that particular bug caught up to them last year. They’re bench isn’t the deepest in the league.

Thanks for your description of how the league and FA work. I’m a long way from a soccer fan. Even if I played it, I wouldn’t be able to watch it.

Yes the big four were put out last year, but they are back in force this year. I listen to BBC radio a lot out here, the rest of the stations are awful.


46 posted on 03/16/2009 12:34:46 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: b4its2late

Obvious, someone had a score to settle.


47 posted on 03/16/2009 12:34:57 PM PDT by chemicalman (Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem. (R.R.))
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To: VRWCmember
...does that constitute a yellow card or a red card?

A yellow. But if they shoot him again, it's a red for sure.

48 posted on 03/16/2009 12:39:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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49 posted on 03/16/2009 12:44:26 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Wil H

“It’s like arguing for bigger golf clubs or baseball bats to make it easier to hit the ball.”

Take a listen to add # 62 for real men of genius....it’s a hoot.

http://thefuntimesguide.com/2004/10/bud_light_real.php


50 posted on 03/16/2009 12:47:37 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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