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Obama Not Making Any Friends With Veterans (The blowback will bring Zero down)
KXnet.com ^ | 3-16-09

Posted on 03/16/2009 9:47:34 PM PDT by utahson

A few days ago I posted about the Obama administration’s plan to rob soldiers of some of their medical benefits. Today the head of the American Legion (the nation’s largest veterans organization) paid a visit to Obama to talk about the issue, and he didn’t leave happy.Normally I am a staunch advocate of limited government and privatization. But in this instance we have troops who served their country, often in awful war zones that left them scarred and maimed, and they did so with the assumption that medical care would be one of the benefits they’d receive as compensation. The government has no business trying to opt out of that.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bama; armedforces; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; bhoveterans; democrats; marxism; military; neomarxism; obama; veterans
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Obama wants to bailout/fund the organized labor unions, yet he wants to screw our military veterans out of the right to free federal medical care for serving their nation. There will be angry blowback that the POS democrats and Zero have never seen. Obama is aching for a fight from our veterans and military.

Thanks to all you Obama voters, stay at home cry babies and third party voters for not voting to stop this man. If any of you are veterans that this will affect, how is this vote for change treating ya? You are responsible for this train wreck.

1 posted on 03/16/2009 9:47:35 PM PDT by utahson
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To: utahson

That money has been redistributed elsewhere.


2 posted on 03/16/2009 9:49:20 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: utahson

I’m thinking if he pushes amnesty through he won’t need veterans in 2012.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 9:49:53 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: utahson

“Thanks to all you Obama voters, stay at home cry babies and third party voters for not voting to stop this man.”

we could have had a POW veteran as commander in chief. That’s what makes this Obama revelation really stinky.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 9:54:01 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: utahson
There will be angry blowback that the POS democrats and Zero have never seen.

Certainly when he tries to use the military to stop the civil unrest.
5 posted on 03/16/2009 9:54:57 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: utahson

Bookmark


6 posted on 03/16/2009 9:55:19 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: utahson
...we should remember, this clown is just a hand puppet for
some nasty Marxist group running this country now, and anything this fool does, he does with the “the nod” from a consensus of misfits who are now in power. He is the true Manchurian candidate.
7 posted on 03/16/2009 9:58:49 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

You’re right.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 10:00:06 PM PDT by unkus
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To: utahson

Anybody who did not see this coming is either brain dead or lives on Mars. Hussein has no love for the military, has accused then of murdering women and children and will use them as his doormat if allowed. President Bush is being appreciated more each day by the antics of Obama.
Where’s the fight......and I mean a meaningful one, I’ve been ready far too long.


9 posted on 03/16/2009 10:00:15 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: utahson
Thanks to all you Obama voters, stay at home cry babies and third party voters for not voting to stop this man.

Yes, blame the voter for your Party's ineptitude, gross incompetence, and rank opportunism. Yes, reward failure because...the alternative is "unthinkable"!

It's not the GOP/RNC/RINO Party's fault that it could not successfully convince conservative voters to vote for its candidate...it's the voters' faults for not being dumb enough to support yet another RINO! /sarc

10 posted on 03/16/2009 10:02:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: utahson

The American Legion and VFW should start running anti-Obama advertisements NOW! The sooner - the better in my estimation.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 10:02:36 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: utahson

Hmm...smells fishy to me. Think about this—Could this be a really disgustingly Machiavellian(sp?)ploy to bring about the return of the draft? I mean, if this goes through, what happens to our numbers of voluntary enlistments?

You have to know that a lot of O’s dem friends have harped for years about bringing back the draft, so that rich, privelidged(read, white) kids will have to serve in the military.

If voluntary enlistments decline due to despicable policies like this, can they then demand reinstatement of the draft?


12 posted on 03/16/2009 10:02:42 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: ari-freedom

Yup. McCain gets a lot of grief on this board — but he would NEVER disrespect America’s veterans like this. NEVER.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 10:08:18 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: rabscuttle385
Rabs, take your 23 year old wet behind the ear NO LIFE EXPERIENCE and shove it punk. You pushed hard to get voters to vote third party. This is your damn train wreck. You were okay with having Obama, you got him.
14 posted on 03/16/2009 10:08:59 PM PDT by utahson
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To: mtrott

“Could this be a really disgustingly Machiavellian(sp?)ploy to bring about the return of the draft?”

Interesting. Mark Levin mentioned something about overloading the private insurance companies to force nationalized healthcare. Of course it could be both!

Even if it IS NOT some evil plan - that will still be the outcome.


15 posted on 03/16/2009 10:12:21 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: utahson

I am a veteran this will affect and IIRC, and unfortunately a good segment of veterans voted for ‘change’ = Obama


16 posted on 03/16/2009 10:14:27 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: utahson
Thanks to all you Obama voters

Nobody on this friggin' Forum voted for Obama.

stay at home cry babies

Conservatives still went out and voted for McCain.

and third party voters for not voting to stop this man.

You simply have no control over the actions of other people.

If any of you are veterans that this will affect, how is this vote for change treating ya? You are responsible for this train wreck.

Stop being hyperbolic, newbie.

17 posted on 03/16/2009 10:18:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: utahson

A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve – is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to “The United States of America,” for an amount of “Up to and including my life.”

The American people gave our military the finger by electing Hussein.

A message to the left and the right who voted for Hussein.

Give up and leave now while you still can.


18 posted on 03/16/2009 10:19:18 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

EEE, you were the head cheerleader with knee pads and all in Ron Paul’s name, trying to get people to vote third party. You helped elect Obama, so piss off.


19 posted on 03/16/2009 10:20:07 PM PDT by utahson
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To: utahson

good one. that hushed up that young one didn’t it?


20 posted on 03/16/2009 10:21:09 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: utahson

Obama has just planted some seeds he will regret when they are harvested.


21 posted on 03/16/2009 10:22:37 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: utahson

If there are any Tuskeege (sp?) airmen left, they should be contacted for their views on this raghead’s latest assault on the country.


22 posted on 03/16/2009 10:22:48 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: bobby.223

Not for long, I am afraid.


23 posted on 03/16/2009 10:23:10 PM PDT by utahson
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To: rabscuttle385

.... divided we fall.


24 posted on 03/16/2009 10:26:25 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: utahson
Rabs, take your 23 year old wet behind the ear NO LIFE EXPERIENCE and shove it punk.

You naively assume that I have no life experience just because I'm twenty-three. You stupidly assume that my life has been fine and dandy and that I don't suffer from any hardships.

Think again.

You pushed hard to get voters to vote third party.

I pushed for my fellow voters to support conservatives, something I can't say holds true for you.

This is your damn train wreck.

Quit trying to evade responsibility. If I'm so young and inexperienced, as you claim, then how are the years of rot and decay—a direct result of taking the "pragmatic" and "moderate" approach to one's own core principles—within the Republican Party *my* fault?

You were okay with having Obama, you got him.

When did I say that?

When did I ever say that I was "okay" with having Obama?

I was never okay with Obama. But I was also never okay with McCain either. Both of them are detestable, treasonous skunks, and neither is, or ever will be, worthy of filling the office of President of the United States of America.

25 posted on 03/16/2009 10:30:05 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: utahson

This is another sign of Obama’s gross incompetence. There is ZERO chance that this will pass Congress (even Patty Murray called id DOA!) - but by discussing it, he gains the everlasting hatred of those who have served.

It is Lose/Lose for him...so why? All I can come up with is Michelle sitting at the table, flexing and saying, “But Bill Ayers said it was a great idea...”


26 posted on 03/16/2009 10:31:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: bobby.223; utahson
that hushed up that young one didn’t it?

If you want to talk about me, don't do it behind my back a la McCain.

27 posted on 03/16/2009 10:31:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Eye of Unk
Obama’s plan is despicable.
28 posted on 03/16/2009 10:32:17 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: MarkT

Unfortunately they were probably coned into thinking about how voting President Obama into office would be a sign of progress.


29 posted on 03/16/2009 10:33:18 PM PDT by jprobst (Who is John Galt?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
First Veterans, then weapons. This guy will make Jimmy Carter look like Reagan by the time he is finished.

Yet, the throngs of ignorant Americans adore The One.

The locals here in Orange County are giddy that The One will be visiting on Wednesday. So much for Orange County Conservatives. We have Obama stickers on BMW's and MBZ's here.

30 posted on 03/16/2009 10:34:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Since Obama Bin Lyin, the Economy Bin Dyin...)
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To: Doogle
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31 posted on 03/16/2009 10:34:55 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: valkyry1
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32 posted on 03/16/2009 10:36:22 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Aria
.... divided we fall.

Why should I join with and support folks who believe in privileging pragmatism over principle, essentially selling their souls to save their skins? Either you know who you are and what you believe in, and you stand firm, come what may, or you are just a fair-weather fool and a follower.

The responsibility for governance requires more than simple charisma. It requires a capacity for leadership, grounded in a set of core principles, a willingness to stand one's ground, unflinchingly, against the opposition even when the odds are not in one's favor, and a certain trust and faith in one's Creator that ultimately, good will prevail over evil.

33 posted on 03/16/2009 10:37:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: utahson

I don’t remember anyone here, save for a few trolls that lasted less than a day, cheering for Obama. I remember much anti-RINO sentiment, and I remember a very lackluster campaign from McCain who said he agreed with Obama on many points. As the big dog on the block, the RNC is at fault for not choosing Conservatism, the only policy they have ever ridden to victory. Maybe RINO’s need a little socialism to see that even a little, is terribly dangerous.


34 posted on 03/16/2009 10:42:18 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: mtrott

mtrott wrote, “Hmm...smells fishy to me.”

Smells fishy to me, too. Why would a president with Marxist leanings want to privatize health insurance for vets? I think the theory that he wants to overload insurance companies in order to nationalize them makes sense.

But why create such a public relations disaster so soon? No one is going to like this one, especially not the military. It seems intentionally provocative, as though he is trying to bring the simmering tensions to a head.


35 posted on 03/16/2009 10:43:26 PM PDT by Cara C
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To: Aria
.... divided we fall.

Unless and until the infighting among those that claim to be conservative or Republican stops, we will not be in power again for a very long time. Keep it up folks the other side loves it.

36 posted on 03/16/2009 10:45:44 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s nice in theory....in theory I agree. But we didn’t have the choice of Ronald Reagan v BO...and no one else but McCain ever had a chance at beating BO.

I once threw away a vote for Ross Perot and we got Clinton. Never again.

Lots of votes were thrown away and now we have what is probably the worst president this country will ever see. NOT worth it.

Your position reminds me of those who say they’d rather see the country get nuked than waterboard a terrorist.


37 posted on 03/16/2009 10:45:55 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: rabscuttle385

settle down junior. ‘behind you back’? my post was right up and out front here for everybody to see including you wasn’t it? you are in over your head here it appears young man.


38 posted on 03/16/2009 10:47:00 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Republic of Texas

I wasn’t the least bit thrilled with McCain but there’s no way he could be a fraction as bad as Obama.


39 posted on 03/16/2009 10:47:53 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Dick Bachert

Yeah, thats about it, LOL.

Thank you all of you marxist liberals, free loaders, race baiters, dumb rhinos, and even stupider vets who voted bozo into office /sarc>


40 posted on 03/16/2009 10:48:38 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Aria

He could absolutely be several fractions as bad, and then the right would get the blame.


41 posted on 03/16/2009 10:51:02 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: bobby.223; calcowgirl
settle down junior. ‘behind you back’? my post was right up and out front here for everybody to see including you wasn’t it? you are in over your head here it appears young man.

Rumor has it that it's good etiquette to ping other Freepers you talk about, if you're talking about them publicly.

42 posted on 03/16/2009 10:51:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Republic of Texas; Aria; sickoflibs; Impy
He could absolutely be several fractions as bad, and then the right would get the blame.

The leftists characterize the actions RINOs such as Bush and McCain (and yes, Bush was a RINO) as being representative of conservatism in general, so when they fail, they use such failure to discredit both conservatism and libertarianism simultaneously.

43 posted on 03/16/2009 10:52:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: CottonBall

Will the military shoot at their brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers-—or will they turn their weapons on the elite overlords?


44 posted on 03/16/2009 10:53:39 PM PDT by pankot
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To: pankot

Read up on the Bonus Army from FDR’s days. Patton and MacArthur were in charge, and our troops fired on WW I vets and razed their protest camp in D.C. Several were injured, and a baby was killed.

It is ironic that one of the results of the Bonus Army protest was veteran’s benefits.


45 posted on 03/16/2009 11:02:51 PM PDT by 21twelve (The Obamas have all the class of the Clintons and none of the charm.)
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To: rabscuttle385

good God. confused a bit here are you? okay son, whatever you say, but how about letting the adults talk now and you go back to your cartoons somewhere.


46 posted on 03/16/2009 11:04:50 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: utahson

Never let a good train wreck go to waste!


47 posted on 03/16/2009 11:09:06 PM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: bobby.223; rabscuttle385
confused a bit here are you?

Rabs is right, and you are wrong. It is called a "courtesy ping", and it is very bad form to talk about another FReeper without pinging him to the post.

It is simply a matter of having good manners and reasonable civility.

48 posted on 03/16/2009 11:14:50 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: jprobst
Unfortunately they were probably coned into thinking about how voting President Obama into office would be a sign of progress.

It was all hope, change, pie, and suntan.

Tough to beat that with someone who is always 'reaching across', even though I think Sarah gave him a lot of votes he might not have had otherwise (I voted for her).

49 posted on 03/16/2009 11:23:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cara C
Why would a president with Marxist leanings want to privatize health insurance for vets?

So, in a year, they can all point to the honorable men and women who cannot afford health care after having been injured in the service of their country and use it to push Socialized Health Care.

Typical Liberal/Democrat: create a problem, then push the bogus (Marxist) solution. Just another step toward State control of everything.

50 posted on 03/16/2009 11:29:05 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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