Posted on 03/17/2009 8:13:41 AM PDT by NYer
It is an apt anology. Anti-biotics are an “unnatural” means to end a disease. Infertility is a disease (a sydrome, really).
IVF joins genetic material, just exactly like normal sex does -— sperm swims to egg. All that changes is the location of the event. The embryo is still transferred, and God either lets it implant in the mother and prosper or not, just like normal sex.
There are all sorts of moral issues created by IVF (chiefly, too many embryos), but in reputable clinics, these events are avoided.
“There are more than a million embryos frozen in suspended animation!”
Yes, there are all sorts of irresponsible people in this world. People have sex outside marriage, too.
Responsible, married, people who will only fertilize and transfer under the normal guidelines are not at fault for the irresponsible people in this world, just like married people are not responsible for people who have sex outside marriage.
Yes, I agree many protestants ministers are luddites with sexual problems, too.
Yes, it was sarcasm.
“Bishop Wenski’s opposition to technological solutions for reproduction does not seem limited to the destruction of human embryos - even when no lives are lost in processes like IVF (which is what everyone is aiming for), he will still object to what many childless couples consider the greatest miracle of their lives.”
Correct. The technology (and ethical guidelines) is such now that in reputable clinics, only a finite number of eggs are fertilized and transferred -— avoiding horrors like Octomom and the supposed “millions” of frozen embryos.
You press them down to the ultimate issue, and the objection is that the man ejaculates outside the mother. Doesn’t matter if the wife “assists” with this process. It’s “masterbation” and thus a sin.
That would help.
Key word is “responsible”. Same goes with contraception. NOT going to happen!
So the responsible people have to be hurt because other people are irresponsible?
Same logic that made it impossible for me to buy Sudafed because morons make crack (or whatever) out of it.
When ethics are maintained, you may have a point.
The Bishop is speaking in general, and he's right. NON-procreative sex has damaged God's Gift of sexuality, the joining of man and woman in a loving, mutually beneficial relationship that is open to accepting and loving the children that would naturally come from that union. He's lamenting the attitude that children are some sort of commodity, and that people have this notion that they have the 'right' to have their own biological children, whether or not they are in a loving marriage.
That’s the dumbest strawman argument I’ve read today, but fear not—there’s still a lot of day left.
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