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Boeing unveils upgraded F-15 Silent Eagle with fifth-generation features
www.flightglobal.com ^ | 17/03/09 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 03/17/2009 1:43:19 PM PDT by Freeport

Boeing today unveiled a new F-15 prototype aimed at the international market with such "fifth-generation" add-ons as radar absorbent coatings, internal weapons carriage and integrated digital avionics, plus featuring a distinctive V-tail.

Improving the fourth generation fighter’s profile on air-to-air radar is Boeing’s key goal for the F-15SE, which the company plans to offer to five foreign countries with an estimated market for 190 orders.

Radar absorbent materials added to leading edges are designed to soften the F-15SE’s head-on radar signature. Canting both horizontal stabilizers by 15 degrees is intended to reduce radar returns to the side.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aerospace; eagle; f15; f15se; iran; israel
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Now, add the NASA ACTIVE engine system for thrust vectoring and you have the perfect 2nd war week air superiority fighter with the F-22 as the 1st war week system.
1 posted on 03/17/2009 1:43:19 PM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport

Isn’t 0bama cutting out the F-22?


2 posted on 03/17/2009 1:44:55 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Freeport
Ya
But Obama wants to pay illegals to build bridges to no where.

Obama does not want to spend money on military aircraft manufacturing.

3 posted on 03/17/2009 1:45:37 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Freeport

” with fifth-generation features”

Including an iPod dock!


4 posted on 03/17/2009 1:48:31 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Freeport
A picture of the NASA ACTIVE thrust vectoring system no thrust ground test:


5 posted on 03/17/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Kansas58

[libspeak]
Building something like this is provocative. It will make other countries think we intend to attack or intimidate them and lead them to develop more and better weapons themselves. It would be ever so much better to stand down and don’t present such a threatening posture in the world. After all, the best and brightest always gravitate towards positions of power, and they can talk and reason through any disagreements.
[/libspeak]


6 posted on 03/17/2009 1:48:52 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Freeport
After all these years the F-15 is still a thing of beauty IMHO

Have to admit though, this thing is not so bad looking itself...

7 posted on 03/17/2009 1:52:05 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Freeport

Weird, seeing an F-15 with angled vertical stabilizers. Helps with stealth, I imagine.


8 posted on 03/17/2009 1:52:13 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Freeport
"...plus featuring a distinctive V-tail...."

Been there, done that.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 1:53:36 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (DRILL NOW. DRILL OFTEN. DRILL 24/7/365. PAY LESS. SUCK THE GROUND DRY.)
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To: Abathar

That’s an F-22 in your pic with the shuttle launch


10 posted on 03/17/2009 1:53:59 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Abathar

I figured they always ran CAP on Shuttle launches after 9/11. Great photo.


11 posted on 03/17/2009 1:54:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Freeport
Maybe they can teach an "Old Dog" new tricks?
12 posted on 03/17/2009 1:55:22 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: JewishRighter

I know, I was just commenting that both are a thing of beauty.


13 posted on 03/17/2009 1:55:34 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Freeport

Ex-AF hubby will slobber over this.
Thanks for posting it!


14 posted on 03/17/2009 1:55:34 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: NCC-1701

My Dad was in the USAF, and always called those “Fork-Tailed Doctor Killers.”


15 posted on 03/17/2009 1:57:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: unkus
"Isn’t 0bama cutting out the F-22?"

All except for the hybrid version.

16 posted on 03/17/2009 1:57:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Freeport

Pretty... They made it look like a stretch limo version of an F/A-18.


17 posted on 03/17/2009 1:57:56 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: buccaneer81

“Weird, seeing an F-15 with angled vertical stabilizers. Helps with stealth, I imagine.”

Helps a lot. the vertical stabilizer combined with the horizontal stabilizer form a perfect corner reflector - which reflects energy exactly back towards it’s source.

I like it.....


18 posted on 03/17/2009 1:58:48 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: PetroniusMaximus

ROFLMAO!

Priceless.


19 posted on 03/17/2009 1:59:09 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: Freeport

Even if it really “Fifth geberation”

What would it require in RDT&E $$?
Is it ready for production, or is it a one-off prototype?
How much has it been tested in realistic operational conditions?

TC


20 posted on 03/17/2009 1:59:53 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: MrB

F*** ‘em.

[/bobspeak]


21 posted on 03/17/2009 2:00:01 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Save the Hispaniolan Solenodon!)
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To: MrB

You realize, of course, that that speech would be more effective if delivered whilst wearing a neon pink tutu and waving a white flag, don’t you?.....:)


22 posted on 03/17/2009 2:00:58 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: Salamander

You can fully imagine/fantasize about the adornment of the lib speaking that speech all you want... :)


23 posted on 03/17/2009 2:02:41 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Abathar

Abathar,
I live on an airpark west about 90 miles south of the Cape.
A couple of shuttle launches ago I took off with my son in my RV6Aand flew to Sebastian, about 60 miles north of here while climbing to 10,000 feet and we watched as it toook off, came up and flew by like an angel.
WAAAY cool.


24 posted on 03/17/2009 2:03:41 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

How close could you have gotten before the CAP intercepted you?


25 posted on 03/17/2009 2:05:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: unkus

Yeah, better hold onto this one for us!

Colonel, USAFR


26 posted on 03/17/2009 2:05:53 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Joe Boucher

Spent my summers on Merritt Island and Cocoa Beach, got to see two of them launch.

My friend who works at the Cape sent me that photo, he got it in an email from the pilot who took it.

I would love to be airborne and see the launch, that would be great.


27 posted on 03/17/2009 2:06:12 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: NCC-1701

Hey, the Forked-Tailed Doctor Killer! Haven’t seen one of those in awhile!

Colonel, USAFR


28 posted on 03/17/2009 2:06:51 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: jagusafr

Yeah, better hold onto this one for us!

Colonel, USAFR
______________________

I haven’t heard anything final on cutting the F-22. Have you?


29 posted on 03/17/2009 2:09:28 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Eye of Unk

Nice piece of art work... And I’ve read the books too!


30 posted on 03/17/2009 2:12:31 PM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Eye of Unk

That’s just plane ugly.

Looks like that Spy vs. Spy character.


31 posted on 03/17/2009 2:13:05 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: Abathar

Good looking plane. I was really scared they would pick the Hideous Boeing plane for the F-35.


32 posted on 03/17/2009 2:13:29 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Flight testing starts first quarter 2010.

I’d expect to see production in late 2011 or early 2012.


33 posted on 03/17/2009 2:14:41 PM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Freeport

Since ZERO is bent on wasting the investment to date in the F-22

and since our pilots are flying F-15s that have been used harder and longer than intended

and since our pilots sometimes worry more about the integrity of their aircraft than the enemy

forget export and let’s build them for US.

Oh, I forgot...no money for things we really need...just for glory roads, bailouts of millionaires, trinkets for the natives and PORK for POLITICIANS...AND CUTTING MEDICAL BENEFITS FOR TROOPS INJURED IN BATTLE!!!!


34 posted on 03/17/2009 2:17:07 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: Abathar
"Have to admit though, this thing is not so bad looking itself... "

I Love both The Eagle and The Raptor but my all time Fav is:

The Falcon

35 posted on 03/17/2009 2:18:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Freeport; Eye of Unk
That was one good series of books. I have met Dale when he lived in Incline Village. Nice guy. Do not where he is now after his tax problems.
36 posted on 03/17/2009 2:21:07 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Mad Dawgg

One could do the same kind of things with this aircraft as well.


37 posted on 03/17/2009 2:23:40 PM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"All except for the hybrid version."

Why would he do such. The Raptor is miles ahead of the Competition.

This is madness!

38 posted on 03/17/2009 2:23:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL - Good one.


39 posted on 03/17/2009 2:25:19 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: mad_as_he$$

Incline Village at North Shore Lake Tahoe? I used to live there briefly in 1988 then I moved on down to South Shore, I wonder, if thats the case I too may have met him, many years ago I vaguely remember talking about modifying or upgrading old aircraft with someone, but then again I still do that.

Not trying to get any attention here you know.


40 posted on 03/17/2009 2:25:22 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: NCC-1701

Big difference between a ruddervator and a slightly canted vertical stabilizer.


41 posted on 03/17/2009 2:29:30 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Abathar

I tried to match that shot exactly with gogle earth.
I have it being taken at around 7300 feet with no zoom.
I wonder if that sounds right.


42 posted on 03/17/2009 2:29:40 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: unkus

Gates is intimating it’ll happen. Certainly it’s been a big target for the last 4 years.

Colonel, USAFR


43 posted on 03/17/2009 2:51:28 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Freeport

If this is a modified Mud Hen, then it is basically a bomber.


44 posted on 03/17/2009 3:15:00 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy

It has the fast packs, which would indicate that its not intended to dogfight. That said, the reduced RCS would still make it a very lethal BVR shooter.


45 posted on 03/17/2009 3:17:29 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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To: SampleMan; Freeport

My bad. The article indicates that this bird is intended for an air defense role primarily. It’s also aimed at the export market (Japan? Australia?) It lacks all aspect stealth so the deep interdiction role is probably not in the cards until enemy air defenses are beat down. Still has an impressive bomb load, however.


46 posted on 03/17/2009 3:21:15 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Mad Dawgg
The Falcon

AKA The Viper. Apparently there are lots of BSG fans in the USAF.

47 posted on 03/17/2009 3:46:13 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Pretty cool piece from F-16.net:

Viper: the unofficial nickname

The F-16 is often referred to as the "Viper", a nickname especially popular with people involved with the F-16. Before "Fighting Falcon" was selected as official name, pilots at Hill AFB, the first F-16 base, came up with a number of proposals, including "Viper". Lt. Col. Pat "Gums" McAdoo, USAF Ret., one of the first F-16 pilots at Hill AFB, recalls the origin of the name "F-16 Viper":

At end of runway, the F-16 did resemble a cobra or something as it approached you. However, I think Northrop had already taken that name for the YF-17.

We all voted, and Viper came in really high. Seems there was a series on TV that had 'colonial Vipers' flying off of Battlestar Galactica (a term later used for the Eagle).

In any case, the Generals didn't want a plane 'named after some snake'!

Falcon was a good name, and it fit in with the motif that the Eagle had created. Sort of a little brother, but still a 'Bird of Prey'. In fact, GD had a great promo out in late 70's called "Bird of Prey", and it used the Falcon as the real world model.

Even when F-16 Fighting Falcon became the official name, Viper stuck around and became the unofficial nickname for the F-16. The name "Viper" is even officially used for the Joe Bill Dreyden "Semper Viper" award, which is awarded for excellent airmanship by F-16 pilots.

48 posted on 03/17/2009 3:49:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Aeronaut

Pinging you to something sweet.


49 posted on 03/17/2009 3:49:45 PM PDT by Miss Behave (When seconds count, the cops take minutes.)
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To: Abathar

Cool picture. Is there a larger version; it would make a great desktop wallpaper.


50 posted on 03/17/2009 3:53:10 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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