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DOD Ends Sale of Expended Military Brass to Remanufacturers
http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html ^

Posted on 03/17/2009 2:35:23 PM PDT by keep your powder dry

Now it has come clear...now we know what they intend to do.

It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns--they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit "assault" weapon sales.

Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; bhodod; brass; gunlaws; obama; socialistblitzkrieg

1 posted on 03/17/2009 2:35:23 PM PDT by keep your powder dry
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To: keep your powder dry

many, many.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=Brass


2 posted on 03/17/2009 2:36:19 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Apparently, this policy may be rescinded very shortly, per page 11 on this thread and some other comments that popped up today:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=844248

Or so I hope, anyway!


3 posted on 03/17/2009 2:38:48 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: AzSteven

you should pass that info around a bit..


4 posted on 03/17/2009 2:42:10 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: keep your powder dry

Just buy and stock - my dad uses those laser things to keep his scope and rifle in check ... no real need to shoot up what you have .... except in an emergency ...


5 posted on 03/17/2009 2:48:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: keep your powder dry

“when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.”

Unlikely. The federal, state and local armories have bullets we can use.


6 posted on 03/17/2009 3:10:07 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: keep your powder dry

Then we must be sure to use them for what they are intended for before we run out!


7 posted on 03/17/2009 3:11:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use extreme violence to preserve liberty, deserves the tyrant that rules them.)
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To: keep your powder dry
...and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.

That statement grossly underestimates the resourcefulness of the average American conservative.

8 posted on 03/17/2009 3:16:09 PM PDT by BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL (Si vis pacem para bellum)
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To: sergeantdave
Unlikely. The federal, state and local armories have bullets we can use.

That is precisely why we are always counseled to purchase firearms in standard military calibers. The "boutique" calibers have their place, but aren't really the core point of having "regulated" militia capable of working together with common calibers. Firearms in 9mm, 45Auto, .223, .308 and 30-06. If you expect to have a chance to capture some 7.62x39, bring a rifle in that caliber too. A select few of us have rifles that chamber 50 BMG.

9 posted on 03/17/2009 3:23:55 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL
That statement grossly underestimates the resourcefulness of the average American conservative.

I agree. Bullets can be molded from wheel weights if you have the right molds. Primers are more of a problem. Ditto for powder. Home brew powder isn't likely to be as consistent in performance as the commercial product. When accuracy is paramount, you want all the ammo you're loading from the same can of powder for consistency. The bench rest accuracy fanatics even pay extra for "bench rest" primers that are manufactured for consistency of primers within a given lot as well.

10 posted on 03/17/2009 3:31:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: keep your powder dry

The wording of the order says they have to shred the brass before it can be sold, not that it can’t be sold at all. That doesn’t mean that the brass can’t be melted and remade into raw brass for the extrusion of new casings. Yes, it does add a couple steps and a bit of expense to the whole process, some of which will be recouped when the price of raw brass drops because so much more will enter the supply chain. We’re ALREADY getting hosed hard on ammo prices right now, anyway. Some of that is attributed to the cost of raw metals. Assuming there is an actual withdrawal of US forces from abroad, the decline in use of ammo will ease the demand quite a bit, at least for a while.

Let’s not hit the ceiling over this just yet.


11 posted on 03/17/2009 4:33:26 PM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: Mr Inviso
The wording of the order says they have to shred the brass before it can be sold, not that it can’t be sold at all. That doesn’t mean that the brass can’t be melted and remade into raw brass for the extrusion of new casings. Yes, it does add a couple steps and a bit of expense to the whole process, some of which will be recouped when the price of raw brass drops because so much more will enter the supply chain. We’re ALREADY getting hosed hard on ammo prices right now, anyway. Some of that is attributed to the cost of raw metals. Assuming there is an actual withdrawal of US forces from abroad, the decline in use of ammo will ease the demand quite a bit, at least for a while. Let’s not hit the ceiling over this just yet.

Regardless, in the end, the ammo will cost more than it would have without this action. In the meantime, the action is slowing the arming up and provisioning of the militia, which senses trouble ahead.

The taxpayers will also have a net loss, since they will have to pay for the shredding (it likely won't be cost effective for the purchasers to do so being only able to charge scrap metal prices for the stuff once it's shredded), and will only get scrap metal prices, which are much less than once fired brass prices.

12 posted on 03/17/2009 4:56:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AzSteven

Great news.

A couple of local custom loaders around here haven’t heard about this, but after I called them they got very nervous.


13 posted on 03/17/2009 4:59:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: El Gato

Apparently (at least according to the folks over on AR15.com) this has been resolved, anyway. Fired brass .50BMG and under has been reclassed to code Q, meaning that it can once again be sold without crushing/shredding/demilling.

Problem apparently now resolved.


14 posted on 03/17/2009 5:14:11 PM PDT by Mr Inviso
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