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Obama "Birth Certificate" conference moves into high gear
PR-Inside ^ | March 18, 2009 | Andy Martin

Posted on 03/18/2009 9:33:20 AM PDT by AJMCQ

The National Conference on Barack Obama's Missing Birth Certificate and College Records' is taking shape. Here is our first update.

1. Location

We have reserved a room at the Capital Hilton to serve as our headquarters. That will act as our initial point for meeting and information. The Capital Hilton is located a short walk from the White House at 1001 16th Street, NW, just in case we decide to march or demonstrate.

2. Hawai'i freedom of information materials

We received a very generous grant to cover the costs of paying the State of Hawai'i for freedom-of-information materials. We hope to have some or all of that material available for review at the conference.

3. Conference Registration fee and ID requirement

Our initial thought was not to require a registration fee. However, we need some advance indication of how large the attending group could be to make space-planning decisions. Therefore, we have added a nominal $10 advance registration fee. The door charge will be $25 to attend one or both meetings. Please fill out the attendance form and mail it back with the $10 to arrive in New York before March 31st. Please include a copy of a photo ID so we can confirm your identity when you arrive at the conference. (The late fee will be $25 cash only 'at the door' with a photo ID.) Once we know how many to plan for, we can work out how formal or informal to be.

4. Conference agenda

With this cover letter you will also be receiving the first draft of our proposed agenda. You are invited to submit suggestions, comments and proposals for any future revisions.

We do have a big 'surprise' planned for the conference, of course. That will be revealed at the Saturday morning session.

5. All are welcome-but please bring evidence, not illusions

Anyone is welcome to register and attend. But please, if you want to express a theory, bring some rational, tangible evidence to support your claims about Mr. Obama. Those of you who know me know I am committed to only working with accurate information and, as we lawyers say, 'reasonable inferences drawn from the available facts or available documentation.' Pie-in-the-sky will not fly.

6. Security

We will have adequate arrangements for security in case Obama's desperate sycophants try to disrupt us.

7. Media

Media are welcome, but we would suggest you let us know in advance. We will be providing twitter.com updates during the conference (twitter.com/AndyMartinUSA).

8. Out of town visitors

Just a reminder: April 3-4 is one of the biggest tourist weekends of the year, so hotel rooms are at a premium. We have already noticed a tightening of availabilities. If you plan to stay overnight, we suggest you make early plans.

We will be issuing updates of this letter, so please feel free to make suggestions.

And please also remember we operate on a shoestring, so contribute any shoestrings you can afford. If the turnout exceeds our expectations, the registration fee will not cover reserving a larger space on one of the biggest tourist weekends of the year.

With best wishes,

ANDY MARTIN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 03/18/2009 9:33:22 AM PDT by AJMCQ
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To: AJMCQ

The real angle here would be to somehow get Obama’s Occidental College, Columbia or Harvard Law School financial aid records. If he applied for financial aid as a foreign student, that would be a definite tip-off.

How about a hospital record?


2 posted on 03/18/2009 9:37:33 AM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: AJMCQ

So whats Obama hiding?


3 posted on 03/18/2009 9:37:38 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: AJMCQ
Who are these people? I don't think I remember hearing anything about them
4 posted on 03/18/2009 9:38:47 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush - and zer0 has already failed)
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To: null and void; LucyT

Ping for the birthers


5 posted on 03/18/2009 9:48:41 AM PDT by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use extreme violence to preserve liberty, deserves the tyrant that rules them.)
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To: AJMCQ

This topic is something that has chapped my bottom from day 1. This is awesome and I would love to be there. GOODLUCK!


6 posted on 03/18/2009 9:53:14 AM PDT by mickidawn1969
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To: mickidawn1969

They need to identify and locate hospital employees of that era to interview. Plus College office employees..somebody knows something. He is a memorable person..we just need to find some of the right “right” people.


7 posted on 03/18/2009 9:56:13 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: AJMCQ
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8 posted on 03/18/2009 9:57:33 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: AJMCQ

BTTT


9 posted on 03/18/2009 9:58:24 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: AJMCQ
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?
10 posted on 03/18/2009 10:08:02 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: AJMCQ

I want to see that BC, but, isn`t this enabling Paris Hilton?


11 posted on 03/18/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: AJMCQ
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Rather he spends -- now over a million -- on flaks. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
12 posted on 03/18/2009 10:10:46 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: AJMCQ

Continue the mantra,”What is He Hiding and Why?”

Supposedly California records somewhere show he was scholarshiped at Occidental as a foreign student under the name of Barry Soetoro. Any of you PI types or snooper types out there able to confirm this? ?


13 posted on 03/18/2009 10:25:03 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

If there were actaul copies of such documentation, it would be posted regularly, but the obamanoid army of detectives and lawyers w/staff have effectively locked up such registration documentation so no one can look at it, legally.


14 posted on 03/18/2009 10:29:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: stockpirate; Amityschild; Calpernia; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 21stCenturyFreeThinker; ...

Ping!


15 posted on 03/18/2009 10:32:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 58 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: AJMCQ

Andy Martin BUMP!


16 posted on 03/18/2009 10:34:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: wac3rd

The subpoena for that was blocked March 13th.


17 posted on 03/18/2009 10:35:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: AJMCQ

I think we have to face the fact that we are SO SCREWED, because if anything were going to happen regarding this issue it would have by now. Apparently, SCOTUS has no problem fiddling while America is destroyed.


18 posted on 03/18/2009 10:37:08 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: Oldexpat

>>>They need to identify and locate hospital employees of that era to interview.

That would be hard to do since the hospital he claims he was born at, Kapiolani Medical Center, wasn’t a hospital until 1972. It was an outpatient clinic for pregnant women prior to 1972.


19 posted on 03/18/2009 10:38:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: AJMCQ

“We received a very generous grant to cover the costs of paying the State of Hawai’i for freedom-of-information materials.”
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Who is funding this, where did this grant come from? Anyone interested in attending should find out this information first. If this is funded by some right wing racist group or worse, then you don’t want to be associated with this later. Or what if this is an Obama front group trying to gather intel on what the opposition knows.

Long and short of it is- follow the $.


20 posted on 03/18/2009 10:42:44 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: ckilmer
And your list right there is enough to invalidate the "Prima facie" document.


Look here on the bottom of this jpg doc.

It says right in the footer, this copy serves as "prima facie evidence."

Obama has presented his COLB as proof that he was born in Hawaii. That document itself states that it is only "prima facie" evidence of that fact. As we see from ckilmer's post 12, the presumption that the fact exists fails. When evidence contradicting the alleged fact is presented, the interested party needs to present other competent evidence to prove the existence of that alleged fact. If he fails to do so, the alleged fact is not proven, even if the opposing party produces no further evidence.

21 posted on 03/18/2009 10:44:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: awake-n-angry

Andy Martin has been reporting on Obama since 2004. Most of what is out there today is due to his reporting. He has been reporting on Chicago crimes for years.


22 posted on 03/18/2009 10:46:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: wac3rd
If he applied for financial aid as a foreign student, that would be a definite tip-off.What financial aid programs are available to foreign students, and why would he choose that rather then apply for aid as a black American student, for whom there are abundant aid programs?
23 posted on 03/18/2009 10:49:31 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping!

Will be looking for updates...I wonder what the Saturday surprise is?


24 posted on 03/18/2009 10:51:03 AM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: Calpernia

I had no idea that Martin has been reporting on BO since 2004?


25 posted on 03/18/2009 10:53:02 AM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Might be because Obama and Khalid Mansour asked Percy Sutton to help Obama out? Obama is of Omani Arab decent, not Black African. The aid for black Africans was at 12% heritage if I remember those threads off hand. Obama is at 6.25%. Percy Sutton confirms getting the financial assistance.


26 posted on 03/18/2009 10:54:13 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: AJMCQ

McCain, the Bush White House, and the GOP should have been on this from jump street last year AT THE LATEST,along with the Ayers and Rev. Wright stories, BEFORE it was too late—should have forced this crazed rat into a corner to self-destruct—But, no, the “poker player” and the “fighter pilot” didn’t do squat.


27 posted on 03/18/2009 10:55:18 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: azishot

There is still material in his book, Obama - The Man Behind the Mask, that I’ve not seen out on the web yet. He has all of his articles he published in there.


28 posted on 03/18/2009 10:55:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

I would agree with you. But then I got John Ziegler’s video, Media Malpractice and the GOP candidates weren’t even aware of the extent of what the media did to launch Obama into the White House.


29 posted on 03/18/2009 10:57:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Ev Reeman
So whats Obama hiding?

Everything.

30 posted on 03/18/2009 10:58:14 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks...I’ll have to get the book.


31 posted on 03/18/2009 11:01:15 AM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: AJMCQ

Where do we send our contributions?


32 posted on 03/18/2009 11:02:24 AM PDT by spiderfern
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To: AJMCQ
Another crackpot conference. What fun!
33 posted on 03/18/2009 11:02:32 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Calpernia

Well, we all learned about it several months before Nov. If a sitting POTUS and a 30+ yr. DC insider like McCain, with all their advisors can’t get off the dime and into overdrive and make SOMETHING happen, then we are truly lost.

I heard his speech in ‘04 at the Dem convention, and said “They’re going to run this guty in 2012 or 2016” I went out and read his book—50 pages in, my blood was running cold. You mean, every GOP in DC was asleep at the switch the whole time and couldn’t do ANYTHING effective?


34 posted on 03/18/2009 11:07:17 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: null and void

Thanks so much for the pings!


35 posted on 03/18/2009 11:17:54 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Calpernia

Now you’re saying that Obama isn’t black? How far out of touch with reality are you? Does his African family look Arab? People who are 1/16th black don’t look like Obama. People who are 1/8th black don’t look like his father.


36 posted on 03/18/2009 11:20:49 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

There are grants for foreign students, not via Federal or State programs, but recently the lines have been blurred by the DREAM Act/La Raza people.


37 posted on 03/18/2009 11:25:32 AM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

McCain had his own leash on him via Ayers and their Weathermen group. Bill Ayers had a history with him from back in Vietnam via the ‘Committee of Liaison with Families of Servicemen Detained in North Vietnam’. COLIFAM for short. COLIFAM was a POW extortion operation.

McCain is not innocent in any of this. But, no, not everyone knew the extent the media had. I didn’t realize it myself until I watched the video, Media Malpractice. I’m a news junky and I didn’t realize it all myself.


38 posted on 03/18/2009 11:26:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You saying everyone with brown skin is Native African? How out of touch are you?


39 posted on 03/18/2009 11:27:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

I hear ya—but if the GOP isn’t at least one step ahead of the media-it’s curtains.

Then, Rev. Wrongway Wright-that was a hanging curve ball that should have been knocked out of the park, along with a lot of 0’s other skeletons and gaffes-I know the media is in the tank, but our brain trust should be able to do something

Of course, with all this, I must sadly take into account that, in this day and age, many Americans wouldn’t listen, or would actually agree w/ Wright and Ayers. Sort of like the OJ jury in 1995-if they had a video of him doing it, and a signed confession-he still would have been acquitted.


40 posted on 03/18/2009 11:32:03 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

>>>I hear ya—but if the GOP isn’t at least one step ahead of the media-it’s curtains.

We are living that now.

Wright and Ayers were covered in this video also. That was a curve ball that was fouled.

>>>Sort of like the OJ jury in 1995-if they had a video of him doing it, and a signed confession-he still would have been acquitted.

The DNA ‘floating around the room’ is proof of that.


41 posted on 03/18/2009 11:37:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: AJMCQ

I’m liking the sound of this conference!


42 posted on 03/18/2009 12:09:05 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Calpernia

Bookmarked.


43 posted on 03/18/2009 12:09:58 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Calpernia

“Andy Martin has been reporting on Obama since 2004. Most of what is out there today is due to his reporting. He has been reporting on Chicago crimes for years.”
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Then publishing the source of funds should be a snap.


44 posted on 03/18/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: All

Here is good use of “shovel ready” jobs, the bigger this gets the more people are doing constructive work.

And being part of history.


45 posted on 03/18/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: spiderfern

Any chance they will webcast this?


46 posted on 03/18/2009 12:55:29 PM PDT by naturalborn
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To: naturalborn

I dunno? I just need an address to send my contribution.


47 posted on 03/18/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by spiderfern
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To: Beau Jack
Abercrombie read a letter from President Obama, who set the record straight about his origins: "Kapi'olani is the place of my birth." ...

Then submit your hospital birth statement to one or the many court cases arrayed against you Obama. Don't just give it to a kool-aid drinking Dem. What's the matter Obama...what are you afraid of?

50 posted on 03/18/2009 2:22:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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