Posted on 03/18/2009 6:38:22 PM PDT by neverdem
Attorney General Eric Holder is using the drug violence in Mexico to "confuse and mislead" Americans in an attempt to reinstate the expired federal assault weapons ban, gun advocates say.
Get ready for a gunfight.
Holder revealed his intention to reinstate the ban last month while announcing more than 700 arrests in connection with a crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the United States.
"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to re-institute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder said. "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum."
Holder said reinstating the ban would decrease the flow of guns from the U.S. into Mexico. He declined to offer a timeframe for any re-implementation; Justice Department spokesman Matt Miller also declined comment on Tuesday.
But Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, told FOXNews.com that Holder's "argument in general is bizarre."
"It's a delusion to say that diminishing the Second Amendment in America is somehow going to stop these ruthless drug cartels in Mexico."
LaPierre called on Holder and Justice Department officials to uphold existing laws and focus on increasing enforcement along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border, rather than consider additional legislation...
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
There he goes: Obama begins expected assault on gun rights
Has Fox News stopped providing printer friendly versions? I didn't see any.
BRING IT ON!!!
Can the government force organizations to give up their subscription lists???
Sure, they just make them an offer they can’t refuse.
Outside of high capacity magazines “assault” weapons are no more dangerous that “sporting” weapons. I also wonder if the AG has thought that weapons may be coming up through Central America. Doesn’t he think FARC and the Colombian Drug Cartels may be in the arms business?
“there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make...”
What a load of BS.
I always make the point to my Democrat brother in law - "Who's the only organization in the world that can take everything you have, or ever hope to have, and get away with it, and suffer NO consequences? The Mafia? NO! It's the government. And there's nothing you can do about it."
He regularly ignores me, of course.
Yes they can with a subpoena if they want. Also they can subpoena mail order billing documents (ammo, reloading, and firearms parts Internet sales).
Think insurgent warfare in the US that will dwarf anything you might have seen in Iraq.
You think they will stop at an assault weapons ban?? I don’t. They are going to try to ram it all down our throats at once. And, it will be worse than most of us expect.
Obama will seek these 4 elements in a gun bill
1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.
2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets.
3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon, or turn it in without compensation...
4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.
Finally, this bill will revoke and ban Concealed Carry and the permits.
“Doesn’t he think FARC and the Colombian Drug Cartels may be in the arms business?”
Don’t forget that Iran has been meddling down south, also.
Gee...I don’t know, Eric.....
I’m thinkin....since I live in Texas, a border state, I might want to hold on to any weapons I have for...um...maybe....self defense (big duh).
Time for grabbing the pitchforks YET?????
He better get that “civil defense force” up and running...
This is such BS. The drug lords are getting the weaponry (US type) from corrupt elements of the Mexican military and through foreign sources, theft, etc.
RPG’s, Grenades, full auto rifles. Yeah, you can get them in any US gunshop.
Holder is throwing a red herring.
thunder have you seen this in writing from the obamoids? does this have a chance of being enacted?
I'm thinking "Vermont" and "Alaska" on that point.
Have you read the first link in comment# 1? I guess you haven’t. I put links in comment# 1 for a reason. 65 Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives have told Holder to take a powder.
I’d say “no”. If they did pull it off, it would be the end of the democrats in DC for 8-12 years.
HR 45-— Legislation pending. Could be attached to an AWB bill. Holder backs HR 45 attachment to AWB.
Insurance Requirement-— Comes from same area that Obama was a State Senator in IL. This could be a test case for it nationally, and could be attached to an AWB. Holder backs this.
Ammunition Accountability-— Legislaton pending in appromx 15 states. Included is CA, IL, NY, and DC. They want to go Federal. Could also be attached to AWB, and Holder backs this too.
Don’t tell me this stuff! I just got in from the range and my shoulder is killing me! I’m trying to have at least 1000 rounds on hand for every firearm I own. It’s serious work mandated by Obama. I do agree with the California one firearm a month regulation. It should be mandatory to purchase at least one firearm per month. Is there any way we can get stimulus (porkulus) money to pay for this?
Yeah so lets infringe on the rights of Americans to lower crime in Mexico. What a complete load of BS, its another created crisis to use as an excuse to institute their commie plans. Didn’t this douche take an oath to uphold the constitution ? Oh yeah thats right, an oath and the constitution mean nothing to these people.
i can see a whole heap of dems losing reelection...
YES!
That’s why I’ve not joined the NRA or the WAC (Washington Arms Collectors) ... get your name on a list and they’ll be coming for you ...
No, only at gunshows, which is why they have to close the gunshow loophole./s
Until then, I'll be using the soap, ballot, and court box.
There are many blue dog rats that don’t and won’t support any new firearms restrictions as you noted above.
I am really glad they are biting off way more than they can chew. The backlash is gaining steam and they are still talking about mandate and expanding the agenda.
Let’s see...... gun control, comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty), Holder calls us all racists, gov’t healthcare, severe restrictions for gorebull warming, card check, and now they “might” release some Gitmo prisoners in the U.S.? I know I am forgetting a few.
Amateur hour is in full effect. Pass the popcorn!
Too bad the GOP is too screwed up to take advantage of this.
Using FOIA, the Roanoke Times newspaper can publish the list of CWP holders.
So, “yes!”
The sheer idiocy of these people never ceases to astound me. Why does he think that drug gangs with millions of dollars at their fingertips, smuggling apparatus in place for moving anything from a kilo of cocaine to a bunch of illegal farm workers and contacts with rouge governments all over the world would go to all the trouble to try and buy a few weapons piece meal and bring them into the country. Why would they bother with a few civilian AR-15’s or semi auto AK’s when they can buy full auto weapons, grenades, RPG launchers and even land mines from governments ready and willing to sell them to anyone with the cash to buy them.
The answers is HE DOSEN ‘T.................
This is nothing more than a covert way to try and disarm the people in this country who the government and ZERO can see are arming themselves like never before because they don’t want to submit to what’s coming around the corner that can’t be done as long as people are armed.
‘Ol Rahm himself said it best.........”Never Let A Good Crisis Go Unused”
My sig line here says it all for me....................
MOLON LABE................
I’m a single dad with an 8 year old and a 12 year old.
Afer they are raised and gone, all bets are off.
“They” are coming for you no matter what. I'm tired of all the boogieman stuff and the gun organizations sending tons of mail trying to scare everyone to death.
I have no wife, no children, and no family and therefore nothing to loose but my liberty.
Hiding, burying your guns and ammo, etc... is a totally worthless endeavor. It is time to $hit or goet off the pot as the old saying goes.
I always think back to what the Pres. of my Sportsman's association said to me one time “We're all going to die some day, and today is just as good as any” ... in reference to the gov’t sending police/troops to confiscate weapons. This is coming from a Marine Recon retired who has been shot 3 times.
So ... I guess the the time is rapidly approaching where we will all have to make up our minds what to do ... stand for principle and liberty ... or live like the French in occupied France in WWII with no hope of some “Allies” coming to the rescue.
This. Come heavy or not at all.
Truth is their friends in the com bloc want the business back.
LLS
Reminds me of a scene from Little Big Man.....
Old Lodge Skins: Come out and fight! It is a good day to die! Thank You for making me a Human Being! Thank You for helpin' me to become a warrior! Thank You for my victories, and for my defeats! Thank You for my vision, and the blindness in which I saw further! You make all things and direct them in their ways, O Grandfather.
And now You have decided the Human Beings will soon walk a road that leads nowhere.
I am gonna die now, unless death wants to fight. And I ask You for the last time to grant me my old power to make things happen. [Lies down to die. After a moment, props himself up on his elbows to add:]
Old Lodge Skins: Take care of my son here. See that he doesn't go crazy.
Support the NRA and others even if you don’t want to get on a list. Criminals don’t register their guns, why should law-abiding citizens...we need to remind chicken-shit Holder and commie obama that we outnumber them big time...don’t even try to confiscate any guns or we win by the numbers...
We have evil in our government and we need to remove it one way or another...I prefer to vote them out forever, but we do outnumber them either way...
I agree. Have you seen the movie?
I'm single, no kids, and no pets.
MOLON LABE.
I guess that if all these laws are imposed, only criminals and politicians will be armed while the law-abiding citizens will be sitting ducks ready for the plucking.
Poor fellow, I guess you have suffered some terrible losses this year, due to some unfortunate accidents. LOL
My wife wants a glock with laser sites because her friend just got one...guess we’ll have to go canoeing soon after we buy it....
And stay out of the way of those running to the sound of the guns if you "lost yours overboard..."
It’s really sad, you seem to keep doing the same thing and getting the same results. Just sad.
How old are you anyway, LOL!!!
Damn right! If the Liberal Messiah, and His apostles, want to legislatively repeal the Second Amendment, then the answer will be mass civil disobedience. Let them try to conduct mass arrests. It would be one more major step toward either a Second Civil War or Second American Revolution. Part of me hopes the Liberals/Socialists/Communists (a.k.a., Democrats) try to pull this off.
Eric Holder can go suck a lemon. Does he really think that these Mexican creeps, or their American counterparts, skulk around American gun shows looking for private sellers?
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