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President Obama okays funding embryonic stem cell research (but removes adult stem cell funding)
CMI ^ | March 19, 2009 | Lita Cosner

Posted on 03/19/2009 8:31:43 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Obama’s anti-life ideology

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Obama is not opposed to restricting adult stem cell research, because the same executive order which gives funding to embryonic stem cell research takes away funding from adult stem cell research. This is a senseless move on the part of the president; the only stem cell research he is interested in funding is precisely the most dangerous kind, the only kind that a large segment of the population is opposed to on moral grounds, and the only one that has consistently failed to produce the promised ‘miracle cure’ results. If he were really concerned about life-saving medical advances, as opposed to pro-abortion ideology, he would hardly have undermined the research with proven benefits...

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KEYWORDS: abortion; adult; adultstemcells; bho2009; bho44; bush; catholic; cell; christian; corruption; creation; democrats; embryonic; escr; evolution; intelligentdesign; moralabsolutes; obama; obamatruthfile; prolife; scotus; stem; stemcell; stemcellresearch; stemcells

1 posted on 03/19/2009 8:31:44 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/19/2009 8:32:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Let’s see - defund what is proven to work,

fund what hasn’t resulted in any success...

Must mean there’s a different agenda here,
like devaluing human embryos so that no
“had-abort” people have their consciences tweaked.


3 posted on 03/19/2009 8:33:39 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

Perfectly stated, with the addition that the people who voted for King Barry are/still total morons.


4 posted on 03/19/2009 8:34:54 AM PDT by svcw
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To: MrB

It doesn’t get much more transparent than that.


5 posted on 03/19/2009 8:36:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: MrB

With his vast experience, it figures. He’s out to ruin this country and our children.


6 posted on 03/19/2009 8:38:02 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/Funbobbasso)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Obama the baby killer.


7 posted on 03/19/2009 8:38:17 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GodGunsGuts

Typical Rat move. Remove funding from the most promising research to support the culture of death.


8 posted on 03/19/2009 8:40:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

ProLife Ping!


9 posted on 03/19/2009 8:40:13 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: GodGunsGuts

Moloch


10 posted on 03/19/2009 8:42:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: Ev Reeman

Why wasn’t this around when Obama’s radical mom was pregnant?


11 posted on 03/19/2009 8:42:35 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: RC2

When I realized that the abortion issue was all about not bothering the consciences of those that have already been involved in abortion,

and nothing to do with “keeping it legal” for future “choices”,

it all began to make more sense.


12 posted on 03/19/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GodGunsGuts; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...

The List, ping


13 posted on 03/19/2009 8:48:26 AM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Where are the Church leaders?


14 posted on 03/19/2009 8:51:21 AM PDT by ardara
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To: GodGunsGuts; Coleus; wagglebee

This country is really going to deserve what happens to it when God finally decides to act.


15 posted on 03/19/2009 8:53:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I think God has already started to act by giving the majority of voters (aka “the mob”) what they they wanted.

Romans 1:26-32


16 posted on 03/19/2009 9:00:57 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yup- just gotta murder htose children- Not only are adult stem cells not as dangerous and tumor/cancer causing potential as embrionic stem cells, but scientists have developed a way to get adult stems cells to change to embrionic ones, or mimic embrionic ones- Did we hear any of htis in obama’;sd speech o nthe merits of destroying embryos? Nope- not a word- Just gotta murder htose children- no other alternative is acceptable t o an extreme liberal socialist!


17 posted on 03/19/2009 9:07:01 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: MrB

Disgusting, isn’t it? And these same people call the GOP ‘Hateful’? Cripes- you can’t get any more hateful than to blatantly attack the morals of the majority in htis country, and to stop funding for the more promissing research to fund the one that causes all manner of health problems when the cells mature. The dems coudl not wait to get into the majority just so they could stick it to those with moral values- Yay democracy!


18 posted on 03/19/2009 9:12:03 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts
That's an excellent graphic to help explain the issue. Ann Coulter had a detailed article some months ago outlining the proven benefits and advances within adult and cord stem-cell research compared to the empty promises of embryonic stem cell research (not to mention the horror stories such as the uncontrolled twitching from that one Korean experiment). It would be great to marry this graphic to a concise listing of the evidence for adult/cord stem cell research and then widely propagate it.

It really is hard to understand how anyone knowledgeable of the facts could support embryonic stem cell research. Even if someone is ambivalent about the issue and about abortio you'd think the evidence would make them lean in factor of focusing on adult and cord cell research first. There is truly a conspiracy of malice and evil at work here that transcends rational consideration.

19 posted on 03/19/2009 9:12:40 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: CottShop

They’re working for Satan, there’s no doubt about it.

Some knowingly, some unwittingly, some wilfully ignorant of what is motivating their agenda.


20 posted on 03/19/2009 9:15:14 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: CottShop

Satan’s work on this earth is to kill, steal, and destroy.

It should come as no surprise that his followers would do the same and that watching them do those things is a reliable way of detecting his followers.


21 posted on 03/19/2009 9:18:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CottShop

It reminds me of Schindler’s list where the Jews would say to themselves, “surely the Nazis won’t kill me, I am important worker.” Moments later, that same person would have a gun shot wound right through the heart.


22 posted on 03/19/2009 9:36:48 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Liberty1970

To be honest, I don’t think I fully understood what is at stake until I first saw that graphic.


23 posted on 03/19/2009 9:38:50 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

The Obamessiah defunds adult stem cell research. His agenda could hardly be more transparent than that.


24 posted on 03/19/2009 9:41:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 03/19/2009 9:55:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

To bad obama can’t


26 posted on 03/19/2009 10:04:39 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: GodGunsGuts
This is a senseless move on the part of the president

It's only a senseless move if you believe in life, liberty, the Constitution, capitalism, limited government and lower taxes. For those who believe the opposite, it makes perfect sense.
27 posted on 03/19/2009 10:08:10 AM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Obama okays funding embryonic stem cell research (but removes adult stem cell funding)

There are no words...

>: (

28 posted on 03/19/2009 10:33:01 AM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You posted something I actually agree whole-heartedly with.

Thanks !


29 posted on 03/19/2009 10:48:19 AM PDT by jimt
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To: GodGunsGuts

For the record, I am strongly against human embryonic stem cell research. I am also very familiar with the way that NIH funds biomedical research.

I have reviewed the executive orders and I don’t see how this new order would stop funding for non-embryonic stem cell research.

The NIH funds research using many types of human cells and the use of adult stem cells was never prohibited. There has been nothing signed that specifically cuts funding for non-embryonic stem cell research.


30 posted on 03/19/2009 11:51:04 AM PDT by sarah p
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31 posted on 03/19/2009 12:07:42 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Tells you all you need to know. This funding isn't about saving sick people, it's about killing the unborn.


32 posted on 03/19/2009 12:23:12 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: sarah p

==I have reviewed the executive orders and I don’t see how this new order would stop funding for non-embryonic stem cell research.

Are you aware of the following?:

President Obama Also Kills Bush Executive Order for Adult Stem Cell Research

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 10, 2009

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — President Barack Obama did more on Monday than just force taxpayers to fund embryonic stem cell research that requires the destruction of human life. He also rescinded an executive order President Bush put into place funding adult stem cells and new research with iPS cells.

Obama also rescinded Executive Order 13435 of June 20, 2007.

President Bush put that order in place in June 2007 when he vetoed a Congressional measure that would have required embryonic stem cell research funding.

Instead of signing the bill, President Bush issued an executive order to press for more research into ways of obtaining embryonic stem cells without harming human life. The order was intended to ultimately fund research into alternatives” to destructive embryonic stem cell research such as altered nuclear transfer (ANT), “regression” (reverting differentiated cells into stem cells), and other methods.

Bush could be said to have been ahead of his time since regression, also known as direct reprogramming, has taken off and the new induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) are the talk of the scientific world.

Bioethcis attorney and watchdog Wesley J. Smith says the Obama decision to also reverse this executive order shows Obama is really the anti-science president, not his predecessor.

“Of course, the Administration didn’t have the candor or courage to publicize this part of his nasty work,” he said. “But the now dead order explicitly required funding for alternative methods such as the new IPSCs, which offer so much promise without the ethical contentiousness.”

“Alternative methods are one of the few areas in which we can all row in the same direction, which I thought this president wanted to do,” Smith added.

“I can think of only two reasons for this action, for which I saw no advocacy either in the election or during the first weeks of the Administration,” Smith says. “First, vindictiveness against all things ‘Bush’ or policies considered by the Left to be ‘pro-life’ and second, a desire to get the public to see unborn human life as a mere corn crop ripe for the harvest.”

“So much for taking the politics out of science,” he concludes.

http://www.lifenews.com/bio2786.html


33 posted on 03/19/2009 1:10:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yes, I have also read that article. It just seems like they are jumping to conclusions here. The reason Obama rescinded both of Bush’s orders was because they limited the esc research that the feds could fund. The first order on August 9th, 2001 allowed funding of esc, but limited it to cell lines that were already created.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/policy/2001policy.htm

The 2nd order, from June 20, 2007 (Executive Order 13435) was made to set up more NIH funding lines that would specifically go to ALL types of human stem cell research. These grants have already been awarded and Obama’s new order does not take this money away. The reason Obama wanted to rescind that order is because it specifically excludes funding for any research that creates or destroys any new embryos.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/policy/091907eo.htm

Again, I am opposed to any research that destroys human life. I am also angry that the white house, media, etc have continually misled people on the issue of esc research. I don’t want to be a part of spreading the same kind of misinformation. That is why I want to point out that Obama’s actions have NOT cut funding for non-embryonic stem cell research.


34 posted on 03/19/2009 1:39:16 PM PDT by sarah p
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To: Antoninus

It’s about giving no human value to embryos.

It’s an abortion thing.


35 posted on 03/19/2009 1:41:36 PM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GodGunsGuts
It is my understanding that even though That One issued an Executive Order allowing Federal Funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research, he also signed the Omnibus Budget that did not include the funding for ESC research. So either he's stupid enough NOT to realize that he signed the bill that didn't fund ESC research, or he's being too clever by half by trying to play both sides.

I vote for the former.

36 posted on 03/19/2009 7:14:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: All; GodGunsGuts; Coleus

My dentist seemed to think that Obama was going to do great things with stem cells. He likes Obama, but I explained to him the success with adult sc, and how Obama wants to take funding away from adult sc research. He was surprised, and asked why.

Anyway, if an educated dentist doesn’t know just how many treatments there are for adult stem cells, imagine how ignorant the general public is. We need to inform as many people as we can. Here’s a letter to the editor I wrote:

“Dear Editor:

Pro-lifers love stem cell research - the NONembryonic kind, that is. Nonembryonic stem cells, or Adult stem cells (includes umbilical cord stem cells), are also the stem cells that work. There have been over 70 successful treatments from Adult stem cells, including treatments for various Cancers, Parkinson’s Disease, Spinal Cord Injury, Stroke Damage, MS and many other diseases and injuries.

However, not even one successful treatment from embryonic stem cells.

So why does President Obama want to waste tax dollars on something that doesn’t work? Some say it’s to desensitize Americans about abortion.

I was also surprised to learn that Obama rescinded former President Bush’s policy (Executive Order 13435 of June 20, 2007) which funded Adult stem cell research. So in other words, President Obama is giving taxpayer dollars for immoral embryonic stem cell research which does not work, but wants to take away money for ethical Adult stem cell research which does work!

And we now have iPS cells which reprogram human skin cells with the same properties as embryonic stem cells without using embryos, so there is absolutely no excuse for destruction and experimentation on human embryos.

Let’s not bail out another unethical and unsuccessful business, the Embryonic stem cell business.”


37 posted on 03/19/2009 11:09:36 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Excellent!

(bump)


38 posted on 03/20/2009 5:50:28 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: Fichori

bump!


39 posted on 03/20/2009 8:45:55 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

brain cells cure liberal stupidity.


40 posted on 04/19/2009 7:41:25 PM PDT by aclusux.com (visit my site at http://www.aclusux.com)
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