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Test plane crashes; pilot unhurt (second Cessna "Flycatcher" test plane LSA crashes)
Wichita Eagle ^ | 3/20/09 | Hodgin

Posted on 03/20/2009 1:02:51 PM PDT by pabianice

North of El Dorado, a Cessna SkyCatcher crashed onto private property Thursday morning. There were no injuries to the pilot.

Cessna furloughs could begin as early as April

EL DORADO - A Cessna SkyCatcher crashed Thursday onto private property north of El Dorado in Butler County.

The pilot walked away from the plane, which was upside down in a ditch, but was taken to a hospital as a precaution, said Butler County Sheriff Craig Murphy. No passengers were on board.

The pilot was conducting a flight test of the two-seat SkyCatcher, which is slated to enter the market this year, said Bob Stangarone, vice president for corporate communications for Cessna Aircraft.

Stangarone said Thursday's test conditions are more extreme than typical flying conditions.

The parachute attached to the craft deployed successfully, Stangarone said.

"It operated just as it should," he said.

Another SkyCatcher crashed in September near Douglass. The pilot, who parachuted from the plane, was not injured.

That pilot was performing a spin test of the aircraft when the accident occurred. Since then, the company has increased the size of the plane's tail.

It's too soon to say whether the pilot was spin testing at the time of Thursday's crash, Stangarone said. "We really don't know that for a fact yet."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: avaition; cessna; lightsportaircraft
Built in China ping! Textron is about to dump Cessna. Obama the Marxist has almost single-handedly crushed general avaition. That's change we can believe in.
1 posted on 03/20/2009 1:02:51 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The tail of that plane is really huge, reletive to the size. If that thing isn’t spin stable, with a tail that size, I could not tell you why,


2 posted on 03/20/2009 1:12:12 PM PDT by gridlock (People are finally waking up to the fact that Obama's basic problem is that he is an a$$hole.)
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To: pabianice

Interesting that the Boeing 777 was built entirely on computers - all the parts were designed and built that way. The plane was put together and flew the first time. You would think they could do the same with a GA plane. This Skycatcher is supposed to replace the Cessna 152 series plane and also be a primary GA trainer in a light sport classification ... the Cessna 162 will cost around 110K, just right for your pocketbook these days ....


3 posted on 03/20/2009 1:13:22 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

Any landing you can walk away from (even a crash landing) is a good one.


4 posted on 03/20/2009 1:16:25 PM PDT by ak267
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To: SkyDancer
the Cessna 162 will cost around 110K, just right for your pocketbook these days ....

Actually, $ 140K with the standard glass cockpit. Just the right price for a 2-seater you can only fly during the day in good weather.

5 posted on 03/20/2009 1:16:44 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: ak267

That parachute thing is a great idea, won’t work on heavy metal types (C-152’s) ...


6 posted on 03/20/2009 1:17:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pabianice

Yeah, went to a site that showed it bare bones ... just wondering how much stress the airframe can handle. You could equip it IFR though without much trouble ... I don’t like glass cockpits without analog backup though ....


7 posted on 03/20/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gridlock

The tail was actually redesigned after the crash of an earlier prototype late last year. Talk about irony.


8 posted on 03/20/2009 1:19:23 PM PDT by cmdjing
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To: SkyDancer

The BRS chutes work on aircraft far heavier and faster that this LSA Cessna.

Check the Cirrus.


9 posted on 03/20/2009 1:43:59 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

I know about the Cirrus ... that pack weighs in around 250 pounds ... has saved several Cirrus’ though ... but then, why should a new plane have to blow their packs????


10 posted on 03/20/2009 1:46:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

They have had problems with spin recovery, hence the enlarged tail.

They were probably trying to expand the safe flight envelope and pushed a bit too far.


11 posted on 03/20/2009 1:59:41 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

There’s a crossover point where an enlarged tail takes away from some other performances ... like when Cessna went to the slant tail on their 152/172’s ... reduced the cross section so you could spin out on final when you do a forward slip .. the body of the plane blocks the wind and you loose tail authority ...


12 posted on 03/20/2009 2:06:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BwanaNdege

It is surprising in this day and age with the advent of such effective modeling software that Cessna is running into issues like this.


13 posted on 03/20/2009 2:53:50 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: gridlock

I sat in one at sun & Fun last year.
Not impressed.
Getting in to the L.S.A. market late as per usual.
I like my RV6A


14 posted on 03/20/2009 3:34:57 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: ak267

Not true,
I’m landing my plane as I make very good pre flight checks and am well trained.


15 posted on 03/20/2009 3:36:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: pabianice

The 162 is a p.o.s.

and you should go visit south dakota.
I was surprised how much I enjoyed Deadwood, the custer park with a huge free roaming buffalo herd. The devils tower and so much more.


16 posted on 03/20/2009 3:38:24 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: BwanaNdege

I thought the earlier post was incorrect.
Thanks.

Also I checked your about page,
GOD bless and keep up the great work.
Glad to see good folks are out there.


17 posted on 03/20/2009 3:41:44 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: pabianice

Spinning a Cessna 152 Aerobat (with the checkerboard wings) was as fun as it ever got for me during training.

(I took 40 hours of flying lessons to get over my fear of flying. I refused to get a med clearance so I never had to solo.)


18 posted on 03/20/2009 3:45:30 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: SkyDancer
The plane was put together and flew the first time.

How does one not fly "the first time"?

19 posted on 03/20/2009 7:08:35 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

Boeing used to advertise “a plane in a box? and had a computer terminal sitting in front of the plane ... most AC up until then went through hours of ground testing before it’s first flight. The 777 flew “the first time” right out of the box ...


20 posted on 03/20/2009 8:14:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ak267

Pops always impressed that upon me after having autorotated UH-1s in 4 times in combat and having the transmission scatter at low altitude) in one stateside...


21 posted on 03/20/2009 8:20:04 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, leaves the least BRD...)
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To: SkyDancer
The 777 went through thousands of hours of avionic, GVT, FS static test, etc, etc.. before first flight.

It wouldn't even of been certified for first flight if not.

22 posted on 03/21/2009 3:31:13 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

All Boeing planes are certified “Experimental” until just before delivery ... there was a great tour and film on the whole process. You might want to go to Boeing.com and read the story ....


23 posted on 03/21/2009 3:34:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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